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Tue Aug-11-09 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #26 |
| 30. Earlier position on health care not germane to his current one? |
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Edited on Tue Aug-11-09 01:04 PM by villager
He clearly *was* in favor single payer, before he was against it. Or found it "disruptive."
the point is, power has corroded Mr. Obama's "progressivism." Just a tad.
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| -Obama said just now " I have never said I was in favor of a single payer pan" |
dixiegrrrrl |
Aug-11-09 12:48 PM |
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Ah, false? |
MNDemNY |
Aug-11-09 12:49 PM |
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you seem unsure. do you think true or false? |
PretzelWarrior |
Aug-11-09 12:50 PM |
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Not unsure, confused by the silly question. |
MNDemNY |
Aug-11-09 12:58 PM |
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FALSE |
Hutzpa |
Aug-11-09 12:49 PM |
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you're lying. |
PretzelWarrior |
Aug-11-09 12:50 PM |
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your dreaming. |
MNDemNY |
Aug-11-09 12:53 PM |
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you're sleep walking. |
Hutzpa |
Aug-11-09 12:54 PM |
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maybe, but I am correct. |
MNDemNY |
Aug-11-09 12:55 PM |
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You both need to get laid. |
Deja Q |
Aug-11-09 12:55 PM |
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lol |
Hutzpa |
Aug-11-09 12:56 PM |
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potd! |
AngryAmish |
Aug-11-09 01:19 PM |
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TRUE! He said if we were starting from SCRATCH, he'd be for single payer |
PretzelWarrior |
Aug-11-09 12:49 PM |
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Unless you go back to his days before the Senate. |
MNDemNY |
Aug-11-09 12:51 PM |
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that's right- It's what I've always heard him say. |
Bluerthanblue |
Aug-11-09 12:51 PM |
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incremental towards what? |
Newshues |
Aug-11-09 12:54 PM |
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Wouldn't it be more cost-effective to start a new system from scratch? |
Deja Q |
Aug-11-09 12:54 PM |
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It's the difference between fixing a boat in drydock and fixing a boat while still sailing on it... |
BlooInBloo |
Aug-11-09 12:56 PM |
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How would you enroll 300,000,000 people all at once? Suggest a |
JayMusgrove |
Aug-11-09 03:41 PM |
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Ding! Ding! We have a winner... |
SKKY |
Aug-11-09 12:55 PM |
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So he favors it in a hypothetical situation, but he doesn't favor it overall? |
Oregone |
Aug-11-09 01:31 PM |
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BOTH |
Dawgs |
Aug-11-09 12:51 PM |
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Your popping the pretzel's bubble. |
MNDemNY |
Aug-11-09 12:52 PM |
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False. And that's why he got asked that question by a republican |
Joanne98 |
Aug-11-09 12:52 PM |
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An article AND A YOUTUBE VIDEO |
Deja Q |
Aug-11-09 12:52 PM |
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Did he say "ever" or just since the health care debate has been going on |
DrToast |
Aug-11-09 12:53 PM |
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Completely false |
DJ13 |
Aug-11-09 12:53 PM |
#14 |
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It would disrupt not only his ability, but the ability of most of Congress |
dflprincess |
Aug-12-09 10:10 PM |
#92 |
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"I happen to be a proponent -- of a single payer plan" |
villager |
Aug-11-09 12:53 PM |
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thanks! saved me some time. nt |
create.peace |
Aug-11-09 12:58 PM |
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that is not germane to what he's doing once he is running on the goald of health care reform |
PretzelWarrior |
Aug-11-09 01:00 PM |
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Earlier position on health care not germane to his current one? |
villager |
Aug-11-09 01:02 PM |
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power? Or political reality. look at the fucking psycho storm with what IS being presented. |
PretzelWarrior |
Aug-11-09 01:04 PM |
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i think you and your "reverse every progressive stance we have" crowd is a big reason |
villager |
Aug-11-09 01:08 PM |
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uhhhmmm...yeah. right. we already have more change than you guys admit |
PretzelWarrior |
Aug-11-09 01:15 PM |
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"buncha fucking whiners?" Projection much? |
villager |
Aug-11-09 01:21 PM |
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Exactly. Why would they listen to us - the health care industry buys the politicians |
debbierlus |
Aug-12-09 06:53 PM |
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I doubt it |
Hutzpa |
Aug-11-09 01:06 PM |
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why can't people here play along even for a fucking moment? |
PretzelWarrior |
Aug-11-09 01:09 PM |
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"play along" ?? No thank you, a lie is a lie. he should not lie. |
MNDemNY |
Aug-11-09 01:10 PM |
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no. he's not lying. but neither is he content to stop at only a public option |
PretzelWarrior |
Aug-11-09 01:13 PM |
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Is that Rahm?? |
Hutzpa |
Aug-11-09 01:15 PM |
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You jump to conclusions too fast. |
MNDemNY |
Aug-11-09 01:22 PM |
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Want me to play along |
Hutzpa |
Aug-11-09 01:12 PM |
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No it didn't. That was a video before he even ran for President--about 3 years before. n/t |
vaberella |
Aug-12-09 01:30 PM |
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No his claim using the word "never" is the stretch. |
MNDemNY |
Aug-11-09 01:08 PM |
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And a lie is a lie. That was a lie |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-11-09 04:02 PM |
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Agreed. |
Deja Q |
Aug-11-09 01:10 PM |
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That was the argument people made against giving him credit for opposing the Iraq war. |
JVS |
Aug-11-09 01:21 PM |
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Some of the comments on some of the videos on that site |
Bill219 |
Aug-11-09 01:01 PM |
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I'm not paying attention to that |
Hutzpa |
Aug-11-09 01:03 PM |
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Thanks for this n/t |
Hutzpa |
Aug-11-09 01:02 PM |
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delete |
Phx_Dem |
Aug-11-09 01:00 PM |
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True.... in hist time as Senator and President, he has never been for it... |
scheming daemons |
Aug-11-09 01:04 PM |
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EXACTLY!!!! n/t |
vaberella |
Aug-12-09 01:31 PM |
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I should have been more clear. |
dixiegrrrrl |
Aug-11-09 01:08 PM |
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yup! |
Hutzpa |
Aug-11-09 01:10 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-11-09 01:11 PM |
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I know |
Hutzpa |
Aug-11-09 01:14 PM |
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but your latest answer was to a clarification of the question |
PretzelWarrior |
Aug-11-09 01:16 PM |
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Nahhh |
Hutzpa |
Aug-11-09 01:18 PM |
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Please see my clarification in question # 35. |
dixiegrrrrl |
Aug-11-09 01:16 PM |
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Absolutely false. |
BonnieJW |
Aug-11-09 01:12 PM |
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"Doesn't he realize all this stuff is on video?" |
ProSense |
Aug-11-09 01:21 PM |
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*yawn* |
BlooInBloo |
Aug-11-09 01:12 PM |
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FALSE. He's always been pro-skillet. n/t |
Writer |
Aug-11-09 01:16 PM |
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good catch, Writer. lol. |
PretzelWarrior |
Aug-11-09 01:17 PM |
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One time.. in 2003... Obama said he was in favor of single payer. EVERY SINGLE TIME SINCE...... |
scheming daemons |
Aug-11-09 01:18 PM |
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I recall him answering a question saying if he were starting from scratch he would like Single Payer |
4_Legs_Good |
Aug-11-09 01:24 PM |
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He didn't say that |
Thrill |
Aug-11-09 01:50 PM |
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What is a single payer pan? |
Raine1967 |
Aug-11-09 01:53 PM |
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Oh lord... |
dixiegrrrrl |
Aug-11-09 02:04 PM |
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Yes, but I did think it was funny. I laughed anyway. nt |
ItNerd4life |
Aug-11-09 03:33 PM |
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You should have included this- |
masuki bance |
Aug-12-09 06:06 PM |
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Obama rejects socialized cookware! |
gmoney |
Aug-12-09 06:31 PM |
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WTF? We in DU can't even agree on what Obama believes or said? |
ItNerd4life |
Aug-11-09 03:32 PM |
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you're right. he's the one dredging videos from 2003. how bad of him. |
PretzelWarrior |
Aug-11-09 03:42 PM |
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I agree with this 100% |
Seen the light |
Aug-11-09 03:45 PM |
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You'd think DU would grasp the difference between the words "once" and "never" |
JVS |
Aug-12-09 01:24 PM |
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too many words.. |
stillcool |
Aug-12-09 07:58 PM |
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I think all that eat "Pan" Pizza should all chip in |
itsrobert |
Aug-11-09 03:35 PM |
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left overs?? |
Hutzpa |
Aug-11-09 04:18 PM |
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I can't recall him ever saying he was in favor of "single payer pans". |
Hansel |
Aug-11-09 04:25 PM |
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True. As a candidate the President NEVER supported single payer. |
vaberella |
Aug-12-09 01:28 PM |
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Politicians don't lie - they campaign. nt |
Jakes Progress |
Aug-12-09 01:44 PM |
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How is this dogged sticking to a quote from before the man was even in the Senate |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-12-09 01:55 PM |
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Because people don't like Obama. n/t |
vaberella |
Aug-12-09 05:16 PM |
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Depends on the meaning of the word "never" |
Hippo_Tron |
Aug-12-09 05:15 PM |
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I think the definition of never is pretty clear. It means NEVER |
debbierlus |
Aug-12-09 06:55 PM |
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On the other hand... |
Hippo_Tron |
Aug-12-09 08:08 PM |
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Well, if he never said it he damn well SHOULD have! nt |
polichick |
Aug-12-09 05:17 PM |
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Before he was in the Senate. As a Senator, Candidate, and President he has not. |
vaberella |
Aug-12-09 06:39 PM |
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I believe he did say it--but he also said during the campaign that |
Arkana |
Aug-12-09 07:03 PM |
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what he has said.. |
stillcool |
Aug-12-09 07:55 PM |
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