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| -President Obama: "So, let me explain what reform will mean for you. " |
ProSense |
Aug-08-09 05:50 PM |
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K&R #2 |
Deja Q |
Aug-08-09 05:52 PM |
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Thank you, Mr. President! |
silverweb |
Aug-08-09 05:53 PM |
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A much better lede. |
BlooInBloo |
Aug-08-09 05:53 PM |
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(1) What will I get that I don't already get and (2) how much will the new program cost me? |
jody |
Aug-08-09 05:55 PM |
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Here |
ProSense |
Aug-08-09 05:59 PM |
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Sorry, that is too general to answer the questions that I hear posed by my friends. n/t |
jody |
Aug-08-09 06:04 PM |
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The questions are sort of curious. |
ProSense |
Aug-08-09 06:06 PM |
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It's going to cost somebody so who do you think will pay the additional cost? n/t |
jody |
Aug-08-09 06:09 PM |
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Seriously, |
ProSense |
Aug-08-09 06:26 PM |
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See #25. n/t |
jody |
Aug-08-09 06:29 PM |
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Question: |
ProSense |
Aug-08-09 06:04 PM |
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Some are happy, those with good coverage, and some unhappy, those with limited or no coverage. n/t |
jody |
Aug-08-09 06:10 PM |
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Delete, wrong place n/t |
ProSense |
Aug-08-09 06:23 PM |
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I've followed the debate very closely and the assertions about who pays is still unanswered. |
jody |
Aug-08-09 06:27 PM |
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BS. n/t |
ProSense |
Aug-08-09 06:31 PM |
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Is that your final answer to a legitimate question? n/t |
jody |
Aug-08-09 06:39 PM |
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Yes, obviously |
wininboy |
Aug-10-09 12:20 PM |
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2) is not answerable until you know what will be in the bill, but the guidelines have already been |
Mass |
Aug-08-09 06:56 PM |
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I know guidelines have been posted but since when has Congress followed guidelines? n/t |
jody |
Aug-08-09 07:00 PM |
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The guidelines are IN the congress bills already existing and if anything the missing bill is trying |
Mass |
Aug-08-09 07:06 PM |
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OK they will pay more but it's really less and they will feel good. n/t |
jody |
Aug-08-09 07:12 PM |
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It seems you're missing the point... |
damonm |
Aug-10-09 12:14 PM |
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Sorry "you're missing the point" not I so why don't you answer #4 rather than attack me? n/t |
jody |
Aug-10-09 03:01 PM |
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Not I. |
damonm |
Aug-10-09 04:43 PM |
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Is it likely that some voters might get less health care than under their current plans & pay more? |
jody |
Aug-10-09 04:54 PM |
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I don't think so. |
damonm |
Aug-10-09 04:59 PM |
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IMO Obama will sign any health-care bill that comes to him and declare "Mission Accomplished" amidst |
jody |
Aug-10-09 05:04 PM |
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As you wish. |
damonm |
Aug-10-09 05:11 PM |
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Not my wish, my expectation. I'm here because I'm a Yellow Dog Democrat & a progressive and I will |
jody |
Aug-10-09 05:16 PM |
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1) If you get sick, your insurance can't be cancelled. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Aug-09-09 10:20 AM |
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Understand but what about people who already have insurance? n/t |
jody |
Aug-09-09 06:42 PM |
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People with insurance have been getting cancelled. |
donco6 |
Aug-09-09 07:12 PM |
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Thanks but that doesn't answer the questions in #4. n/t |
jody |
Aug-09-09 11:23 PM |
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Yes it does. It answers it directly. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Aug-10-09 12:32 AM |
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Have a good day. n/t |
jody |
Aug-10-09 09:16 AM |
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The progressive movement is at a crossroads. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Aug-10-09 09:34 AM |
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I've contributed for half a century as a Yellow Dog Democrat. Glad you could join us progressives. |
jody |
Aug-10-09 10:23 AM |
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Oh, now I get it. Healthcare reform seems important until one qualifies for medicare. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Aug-10-09 02:04 PM |
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LOL Health care reform is important to me because of my children, grandchildren, hundreds of |
jody |
Aug-10-09 02:59 PM |
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The starting point of any discussion is that what they think they "get" is not sustainable. |
grantcart |
Aug-09-09 10:42 AM |
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If what you say is true that government can operate a business at lower cost and higher quality, |
jody |
Aug-09-09 06:41 PM |
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Its a complicated issue but the simple answer is: |
grantcart |
Aug-09-09 08:19 PM |
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Thanks "what other businesses has government taken over in the U.S. and achieved those goals?" n/t |
jody |
Aug-09-09 11:22 PM |
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Why are you repeating the question? |
grantcart |
Aug-09-09 11:50 PM |
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OK, but what private businesses has govt taken over and operated efficiently and effectively? n/t |
jody |
Aug-10-09 09:16 AM |
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You are aggressively obtuse |
grantcart |
Aug-10-09 11:28 AM |
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Didn't your subject line just say it all? |
Flying Dream Blues |
Aug-10-09 11:43 AM |
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Medicare report says it's broke. Govt can't manage it so how can it do better with an expanded |
jody |
Aug-10-09 02:55 PM |
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Except, it doesn't say what you say it does... |
damonm |
Aug-10-09 05:08 PM |
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You are a great candidate for Enron's board. n/t |
jody |
Aug-10-09 05:10 PM |
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Wow. Wrong AND irrelevant at the same time. Well done! |
damonm |
Aug-10-09 05:15 PM |
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I was merely pointing out your rosy picture of a govt corporation when all facts point to a growing |
jody |
Aug-10-09 05:19 PM |
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If fact is "rosy", then guilty as charged. |
damonm |
Aug-10-09 05:39 PM |
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What subject change? #100 used medicare and I responded to that. Surely you know Obama said "We all |
jody |
Aug-10-09 05:52 PM |
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*sigh* If you didn't get the subject change, you have bigger problems than I can handle, |
damonm |
Aug-11-09 01:15 AM |
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I see your opinion of me is much higher than mine of you. Goodbye. n/t |
jody |
Aug-11-09 09:11 AM |
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Two questions, two answers. |
boppers |
Aug-09-09 09:18 PM |
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Cost nothing! Sorry but I don't believe my friends will accept that answer and they're Dems. n/t |
jody |
Aug-09-09 11:25 PM |
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Tell them it'll cost $4.50 per paycheck, then. |
boppers |
Aug-10-09 01:58 AM |
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LOL That's as credible as anything else I've heard. n/t |
jody |
Aug-10-09 09:18 AM |
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Well... |
damonm |
Aug-10-09 05:02 PM |
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"Acceptance has little bearing on fact" but it acceptance does determine votes and that's politics. |
jody |
Aug-10-09 05:20 PM |
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'We will stop insurance companies from denying coverage because of a person's medical history.' |
Eric J in MN |
Aug-08-09 05:57 PM |
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Here: |
ProSense |
Aug-08-09 06:01 PM |
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I agree re "pre-existing conditions" but that will spread those costs over those already insured. |
jody |
Aug-08-09 06:08 PM |
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That's the Fox Noise version of health care reform. n/t |
ProSense |
Aug-08-09 06:10 PM |
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Forget Fox, that is one of the questions my friends ask and they all vote and voted Obama. n/t |
jody |
Aug-08-09 06:12 PM |
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Sorry, I can't |
ProSense |
Aug-08-09 06:19 PM |
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I've been following the debate and listening to Democrats but no one has answered those questions. |
jody |
Aug-08-09 06:23 PM |
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Not true. |
ProSense |
Aug-08-09 06:25 PM |
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LOL "Many scenarios" but the only one that matters is what Congress votes for and Obama signs. n/t |
jody |
Aug-08-09 06:29 PM |
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Why are you laughing? You didn't know they even existed. |
ProSense |
Aug-08-09 06:30 PM |
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I laughed because you make assertions re some hypothetical plan but admit that there are several |
jody |
Aug-08-09 06:41 PM |
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What's really funny is that you had no clue |
ProSense |
Aug-08-09 06:45 PM |
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Please listen to me, IMO you and I could set down and jointly agree on the basics of a health care |
jody |
Aug-08-09 06:50 PM |
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Exactly right. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Aug-09-09 10:27 AM |
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The insurance companies will be making more money overall, |
Eric J in MN |
Aug-08-09 06:21 PM |
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That's my expectation also. :thumbsup: |
jody |
Aug-08-09 06:24 PM |
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"if they raise premiums and blame it on having to sell [ins.] to people with pre-existing condition" |
ProSense |
Aug-08-09 06:29 PM |
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How do you know premiums will be capped? I've followed the debate and scanned HR 3200 but |
jody |
Aug-08-09 06:39 PM |
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So, what do you suggest. That we stop everything and stay where we are. |
Mass |
Aug-08-09 07:07 PM |
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See "4. (1) What will I get that I don't already get and (2) how much will the new program cost me?" |
jody |
Aug-08-09 07:15 PM |
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Happy you have a good healthcare. Others do not and have a chance to get it. Except if people like |
Mass |
Aug-08-09 08:46 PM |
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I'm blocking nothing however, I am concerned that Congress and Obama have not been able to present |
jody |
Aug-08-09 09:46 PM |
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You don't speak for me |
wininboy |
Aug-10-09 12:23 PM |
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What the local |
Baltoman991 |
Aug-08-09 08:09 PM |
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Thanks. I was starting to get this as there was clearly no way this person cared about answers. |
Mass |
Aug-08-09 08:44 PM |
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Problem is you have yet to answer the two questions I posed earlier in this thread. If there is a |
jody |
Aug-08-09 09:48 PM |
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Somewhere I found in the bill that premiums will be capped at 11% of your gross income |
dflprincess |
Aug-08-09 10:43 PM |
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Thanks, answers like that are what blue/grey collar workers understand. n/t |
jody |
Aug-09-09 09:13 AM |
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The cost-share max for a family is $10,000. PLUS there's deductible - |
lynne |
Aug-10-09 05:46 PM |
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Read it in black and white |
SpartanDem |
Aug-09-09 01:09 PM |
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Your link is broke, are you referring to HR 3200 with the final amendments yet to be passed so we |
jody |
Aug-09-09 06:38 PM |
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The section regarding premiums limits can be found in section 243 |
SpartanDem |
Aug-09-09 09:10 PM |
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Thanks but the only thing that matters is the final bill signed into law. No one knows what that |
jody |
Aug-09-09 11:21 PM |
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Section 243 is about the federal gov't helping people pay premiums... |
Eric J in MN |
Aug-09-09 11:23 PM |
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President Obama Should Throw In Some Powerpoint Slides |
TomCADem |
Aug-08-09 06:15 PM |
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Makes sense, that will certainly sway Joe Sixpack. :sarcasm: |
jody |
Aug-08-09 06:18 PM |
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Thank you for this, PS.. |
Cha |
Aug-08-09 07:30 PM |
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K&R |
dccrossman |
Aug-08-09 08:31 PM |
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Rec'd! That's my President! n/t |
firedupdem |
Aug-08-09 10:52 PM |
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Except that he is lying about being able to keep your doctor |
eridani |
Aug-09-09 05:35 AM |
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Those are very valid questions, but certainly not questions the RW wants to discuss. |
Mass |
Aug-09-09 09:16 AM |
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Where do you get that insurers will be allowed to double premiums for older people? |
solstice |
Aug-09-09 10:15 AM |
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SEC. 113. INSURANCE RATING RULES. |
eridani |
Aug-09-09 07:46 PM |
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When I was younger and had group insurance, I paid the same as older people. |
amandabeech |
Aug-09-09 10:58 PM |
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11% is totally unacceptable as well |
eridani |
Aug-09-09 11:28 PM |
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The amounts you write about are reasonable. |
amandabeech |
Aug-09-09 11:50 PM |
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That is just for additional premiums--does not reflect taxes to pay for nat'l health |
frazzled |
Aug-10-09 05:55 AM |
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Actually, when I worked and lived in NYC, my tax bite was a bit higher than 41%, |
amandabeech |
Aug-10-09 11:51 AM |
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FICA and Medicare assessments not included in US data I supplied either |
eridani |
Aug-11-09 07:04 AM |
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In reality... |
lumberjack_jeff |
Aug-09-09 10:25 AM |
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This is totally unacceptable |
eridani |
Aug-09-09 07:39 PM |
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The system in the Netherlands is a public/private system. |
tabasco |
Aug-09-09 08:10 PM |
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Everyone except chronically ill and long term care patients must have private insurance |
eridani |
Aug-09-09 09:56 PM |
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I'm hip! They don't put up with that shit on Star Trek neither. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Aug-10-09 12:30 AM |
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Killing only 11,000 a year instead of 22,000 a year is uncacceptable n/t |
eridani |
Aug-10-09 03:15 AM |
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Mr. President ~ we still need the ABC - 123 |
goclark |
Aug-09-09 10:03 AM |
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Obama sounds like he's reading a laundry list. "Outlandish" my ass. Sounds like my grandmother! |
solstice |
Aug-09-09 10:14 AM |
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Aug-09-09 11:49 AM |
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Excellent. nt |
JerseygirlCT |
Aug-09-09 08:26 PM |
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"Drug companies have agreed to make prescription drugs more affordable for seniors." |
depakid |
Aug-09-09 08:31 PM |
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What about health care for all? |
jeanpalmer |
Aug-10-09 01:14 AM |
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"they are just insurance reforms, not health care reform" |
leftstreet |
Aug-10-09 02:00 AM |
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These insurance reforms are common sense |
jeanpalmer |
Aug-10-09 02:47 AM |
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Health reform made simple |
SpartanDem |
Aug-10-09 03:19 AM |
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Truth rules |
lewiston |
Aug-10-09 10:23 AM |
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On Friday I said Obama needs to dispel some rumors... |
JuniperLea |
Aug-10-09 12:17 PM |
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Great job by Obama. Too bad so very few people listen to the Weekly Address. I did a survey |
AlinPA |
Aug-10-09 03:20 PM |
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looks like "healthcare reform" is now officially renamed |
paulk |
Aug-10-09 05:29 PM |
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The problem in this speech.... |
OwnedByFerrets |
Aug-10-09 05:31 PM |
#125 |
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