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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 09:19 AM
Response to Reply #44
128. I consider myself
pretty well informed and this is the first I've heard of Professor Gates. I have no idea where you get the idea he would be recognized by "most". Most who?
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  -What was the point of Mr. Gates asking the officer for his name and badge number? Rex_Goodheart  Jul-23-09 06:11 PM   #0 
  - Well said. n/t  bbinacan   Jul-23-09 06:13 PM   #1 
  - It might have been well said but needlessly asked, you have the RIGHT...the RIGHT to ask  uponit7771   Jul-23-09 06:41 PM   #43 
  - Actually, no... not well said  BklnDem75   Jul-24-09 09:25 AM   #129 
  - If a policeman came into your home and demanded you identify  annabanana   Jul-23-09 06:13 PM   #2 
  - wow just wow, I assume this person has never had to face such a situation...  AuntPatsy   Jul-24-09 10:38 AM   #136 
  - stupid question.  PretzelWarrior   Jul-23-09 06:13 PM   #3 
  - The resident republlican is here again  Rosa Luxemburg   Jul-23-09 06:57 PM   #53 
     - not sure what you mean.  PretzelWarrior   Jul-23-09 07:17 PM   #64 
        - The op  Rosa Luxemburg   Jul-23-09 08:06 PM   #84 
  - Gates is a Nationally Known Personality  DoBotherMe   Jul-23-09 06:14 PM   #4 
  - I never heard of Professor Gates before this affair  Rex_Goodheart   Jul-23-09 06:17 PM   #6 
  - You ARE kidding?  DoBotherMe   Jul-23-09 06:23 PM   #15 
  - You never heard of Professor Gates? I'm sorry for you ... you've been under a rock.  gauguin57   Jul-24-09 12:45 AM   #116 
  - Sorry. I don't buy that Gates is recognizable to most.  MUAD_DIB   Jul-23-09 06:25 PM   #18 
     - You like to play games too I see.  DoBotherMe   Jul-23-09 06:42 PM   #44 
        - You're being silly. You're dismissed.  Rex_Goodheart   Jul-23-09 07:03 PM   #55 
        - Project much?  DoBotherMe   Jul-24-09 01:28 PM   #139 
        - I believe that you are being disingenuous.  MUAD_DIB   Jul-23-09 09:39 PM   #94 
        - So was the cop  DoBotherMe   Jul-24-09 01:30 PM   #141 
        - I consider myself  leftynyc   Jul-24-09 09:19 AM   #128 
           - +1  a la izquierda   Jul-24-09 09:28 AM   #131 
              - -1  DoBotherMe   Jul-24-09 01:30 PM   #140 
                 - Oh grow the hell up.  a la izquierda   Jul-24-09 04:15 PM   #142 
  - Because only a fool believes that a stranger is a cop before seeing proof.  DevonRex   Jul-23-09 06:16 PM   #5 
  - So, your answer is that Mr. Gates didn't believe he was really a cop?  Rex_Goodheart   Jul-23-09 06:18 PM   #7 
  - You asked why he asked for ID. I answered that only a fool believes a strange is a cop before  DevonRex   Jul-23-09 06:20 PM   #9 
  - You've never heard of people impersonating a police officer?  SeattleGirl   Jul-23-09 06:20 PM   #10 
  - that could be one viable answer. The professor wrote on race issues for years  PretzelWarrior   Jul-23-09 06:20 PM   #11 
  - You think Mr. Gates was unaware that the police had been called  Rex_Goodheart   Jul-23-09 06:26 PM   #20 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-23-09 07:16 PM   #63 
  - Don't let facts get in your way.  Rex_Goodheart   Jul-23-09 07:23 PM   #70 
  - Who are you to say that his reason was illegitimate?  Fire1   Jul-23-09 08:17 PM   #89 
  - The cop didn't not have a legal right to enter the house. Gates had  quiller4   Jul-24-09 12:29 AM   #108 
  - You're a smart man. Always know who you're dealing with. Check the name  DevonRex   Jul-23-09 06:33 PM   #34 
  - Well the officer didn't believe Mr. Gates was the homeowner  ecstatic   Jul-23-09 06:23 PM   #16 
  - Well, last night in Lexington, KY  PVnRT   Jul-24-09 06:49 AM   #120 
  - +1  redqueen   Jul-24-09 04:20 PM   #144 
  - I agree  Enrique   Jul-23-09 06:19 PM   #8 
  - I've been questioned by police before, under reasonable circumstances  Rex_Goodheart   Jul-23-09 06:22 PM   #13 
     - Well, gosh, if *you* never asked, I suppose there's no need for anyone to have the right to ask.  SemiCharmedQuark   Jul-23-09 07:22 PM   #68 
        - You obviously can't read.  Rex_Goodheart   Jul-23-09 07:24 PM   #72 
           - Then what business is it of yours *why* he asked? He asked and was probably going to file a  SemiCharmedQuark   Jul-23-09 07:28 PM   #75 
  - He was being a crabby old shit. Cafferty would have done the same.  elehhhhna   Jul-23-09 06:21 PM   #12 
  - he can be as crabby as he wants to be in his own house. cafferty too.  NatBurner   Jul-24-09 06:57 AM   #121 
     - that's my point. The cops an ass.  elehhhhna   Jul-24-09 10:05 AM   #133 
        - oops! withdrawn  NatBurner   Jul-24-09 10:36 AM   #135 
  - It's interesting how some people are suddenly defending the police  Political Tiger   Jul-23-09 06:22 PM   #14 
  - Yeah, that must be the reason.  MUAD_DIB   Jul-23-09 06:28 PM   #22 
  - I noticed it too. Disgusting. n/t  firedupdem   Jul-23-09 06:34 PM   #35 
  - He probably thought it was Barney Fucking Fife  tabasco   Jul-23-09 06:25 PM   #17 
  - Gates felt he was being harrased. So he did the right thing by asking for Name and Badge number  Thrill   Jul-23-09 06:26 PM   #19 
  - Does it sound to you like he was being harassed?  Rex_Goodheart   Jul-23-09 06:28 PM   #23 
     - Were you there? Are you sure thats all he said to Gates?  Thrill   Jul-23-09 06:31 PM   #28 
     - Yes, how many people who are robbing a house answer the door after it's been knocked on?  uponit7771   Jul-23-09 06:50 PM   #49 
     - I guess he thinks that negroes not only commit a large amount of crime but that they  DevonRex   Jul-23-09 07:22 PM   #69 
     - Yes. because by that time he was no longer a suspect and the cop was  quiller4   Jul-24-09 12:30 AM   #109 
  - That uppity negro should have known his place...asking for a badge!  traxster   Jul-23-09 06:26 PM   #21 
  - That MIGHT be the reason he got arrested  Rex_Goodheart   Jul-23-09 06:30 PM   #25 
     - What the heck are you talking about?  Thrill   Jul-23-09 06:32 PM   #31 
     - Contrary to popular belief, its not illegal to talk back to a cop.  traxster   Jul-23-09 06:34 PM   #36 
     - Gates had every right to be angry  dave29   Jul-24-09 12:07 AM   #105 
  - It doesn't matter what the point was of asking for his name and badge #  eShirl   Jul-23-09 06:30 PM   #24 
  - I agree with that...  Rex_Goodheart   Jul-23-09 06:31 PM   #27 
  - whatever dude  eShirl   Jul-23-09 06:34 PM   #37 
  - If you agree then why are you asking why he asked.  Raineyb   Jul-23-09 07:14 PM   #61 
  - He clearly thinks that uppity negroes have no right to ask a cop for identification.  DevonRex   Jul-23-09 07:28 PM   #74 
  - It appears  Baltoman991   Jul-24-09 09:21 PM   #156 
  - exactly. There's no reason for the cop to not give his information when asked.  nightrain   Jul-23-09 07:07 PM   #60 
     - In MA it is a crime for an officer to refuse. n/t  quiller4   Jul-24-09 12:31 AM   #110 
  - So you've moved on to a new angle in addition to the "black men commit the most crimes"  ecstatic   Jul-23-09 06:31 PM   #26 
  - I didn't say black men commit the most crimes  Rex_Goodheart   Jul-23-09 06:33 PM   #32 
     - If it is a "fact", why have you yet to provide a single link to back it up?  scheming daemons   Jul-23-09 08:18 PM   #90 
     - Oh, and there's a damned good reason for that. White  Fire1   Jul-23-09 08:32 PM   #91 
  - Gee, I don't know--probably because officers busted into his house  Arkana   Jul-23-09 06:32 PM   #29 
  - WTF????? Gates was in his OWN HOUSE.  Avalux   Jul-23-09 06:32 PM   #30 
  - After a break in, you mean?  Rex_Goodheart   Jul-23-09 06:34 PM   #38 
     - Who said it was a break in?  Avalux   Jul-23-09 06:36 PM   #39 
     - The neighbor who reported it to the police.  Rex_Goodheart   Jul-23-09 07:04 PM   #57 
        - not a neighbor a campus employee walking by. n/t  quiller4   Jul-24-09 12:32 AM   #111 
     - I don't think you can break into your own home???  traxster   Jul-23-09 06:36 PM   #40 
     - THERE WAS NO FUCKING BREAK-IN. Moran.  DevonRex   Jul-23-09 06:36 PM   #41 
     - Yes, there was.  Rex_Goodheart   Jul-23-09 07:01 PM   #54 
        - A neighbor reporting a possible break-in is not a break-in. nt  Occam Bandage   Jul-23-09 07:04 PM   #58 
        - No there was NOT a break-in. Good lord you couldn't possibly be this thick.  DevonRex   Jul-23-09 07:20 PM   #66 
        - Yes, there was. Mr. Gates admitted that the driver had to break in to the house.  Rex_Goodheart   Jul-23-09 07:23 PM   #71 
           - Seriously, freeper, what are you doing here?  DevonRex   Jul-23-09 07:26 PM   #73 
           - Are you a liar, an idiot or both?  Number23   Jul-23-09 08:14 PM   #86 
           - I vote both.  DevonRex   Jul-23-09 08:16 PM   #88 
           - No. Gates used his key on the back door. Unlocked the front  quiller4   Jul-24-09 12:34 AM   #112 
        - From what I've read and heard there was no break-in  justiceischeap   Jul-23-09 09:29 PM   #93 
     - How many people who are robbing a house will come to the door?!?!?!  uponit7771   Jul-23-09 06:47 PM   #47 
     - I guess some people are just a sucker for a man in uniform  Lerkfish   Jul-23-09 06:52 PM   #51 
  - You state that:  aquamarina   Jul-23-09 06:33 PM   #33 
  - You are so right. There was no reason for the officer to remain  quiller4   Jul-24-09 12:35 AM   #113 
  - Not to defend the OP, but you are mistaken...  hughee99   Jul-24-09 12:41 AM   #115 
     - No No No  aquamarina   Jul-24-09 08:45 AM   #123 
        - We know that's what happened, had Gates every explained that  hughee99   Jul-24-09 09:44 PM   #159 
  - Regardless of the officer's action or behavior...  wundermaus   Jul-23-09 06:37 PM   #42 
  - It's the circumstances described in your last sentence  Rex_Goodheart   Jul-23-09 06:54 PM   #52 
  - I would want to remember the name and badge number, too...  Orsino   Jul-23-09 06:45 PM   #45 
  - Because it is his Constitutional right to have that information when he asks for it. Period.  Hekate   Jul-23-09 06:46 PM   #46 
  - you say "mouthing off" I say "insisting on civil rights"  Lerkfish   Jul-23-09 06:49 PM   #48 
  - The cop was in uniform but was in an unmarked vehicle.  Blue Diadem   Jul-23-09 06:51 PM   #50 
  - "What was the point?"  Occam Bandage   Jul-23-09 07:03 PM   #56 
  - How was he being harassed? By being asked for ID?  Rex_Goodheart   Jul-23-09 07:07 PM   #59 
     - Citizens have the right to file a complaint if they feel they are being harassed.  SemiCharmedQuark   Jul-23-09 07:15 PM   #62 
  - Pat Buchanen surely agrees with you, racist.  Forkboy   Jul-23-09 07:19 PM   #65 
  - Spelling btw.  Fearless   Jul-23-09 07:29 PM   #77 
     - Focus on the important stuff btw.  Forkboy   Jul-23-09 07:36 PM   #79 
        - Oh there's really nothing important left to discuss.  Fearless   Jul-23-09 07:39 PM   #80 
           - Now you're defending Pat Buchanan?  Raineyb   Jul-23-09 09:53 PM   #98 
           - I posted a bunch of links last night to many previous statements by this OP.  Forkboy   Jul-23-09 10:03 PM   #99 
  - Essentially more useless suppostion...  orwell   Jul-23-09 07:21 PM   #67 
  - Umm, you forgot Gates showed ID to prove the house was his and got arrested...  uponit7771   Jul-23-09 07:36 PM   #78 
     - I left that out because the timeline of that fact is in dispute.  orwell   Jul-23-09 07:53 PM   #81 
  - He was probably embarassed and lashed out.  Fearless   Jul-23-09 07:29 PM   #76 
  - What's the point of this thread?  CatWoman   Jul-23-09 07:58 PM   #82 
  - You can't guess?  Forkboy   Jul-23-09 10:19 PM   #100 
     - then why is that piece of shit hanging around here then?  CatWoman   Jul-24-09 09:09 AM   #126 
  - Sgt. Crowley was wearing his name and badge number on his police uniform.  invictus   Jul-23-09 08:04 PM   #83 
  - Word to the wise: EVERYONE should ask to see the identification  DevonRex   Jul-23-09 08:07 PM   #85 
  - That's correct. There are times entire uniforms are stolen.  Blue Diadem   Jul-23-09 09:23 PM   #92 
  - I gotta say...even not knowing who was in the bottom pic...  Lars39   Jul-23-09 11:59 PM   #104 
  - Wow...  Rebubula   Jul-24-09 09:00 AM   #125 
     - You must not ever be around any...facial expressions tell a lot.  Lars39   Jul-24-09 09:13 AM   #127 
  - Crowley Has "The Look"  SoDesuKa   Jul-24-09 10:21 PM   #163 
  - Citizens should be able to demand badge numbers at any time  Canuckistanian   Jul-23-09 08:15 PM   #87 
  - It's common sense 101  KingFlorez   Jul-23-09 09:43 PM   #95 
  - How esle afre you going to file a complaint  depakid   Jul-23-09 09:46 PM   #96 
  - "Now, before you go off on some tangent, I fully understand that it was within his rights to do so."  ProSense   Jul-23-09 09:46 PM   #97 
  - Gates was in his own home. Without a search warrant, Gates can order the police out. Gates did  lindisfarne   Jul-23-09 10:58 PM   #101 
  - I'm one of them. Without a search warrant I won't answer question one. n/t  quiller4   Jul-24-09 12:38 AM   #114 
  - Why have you spent some 1200 posts here?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jul-23-09 11:53 PM   #102 
  - I'm sorry you couldn't answer my question before you were banned.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jul-24-09 04:19 PM   #143 
  - For a cop who teaches racial profiling, knows the history, should have been the professional here  MarjorieG   Jul-23-09 11:58 PM   #103 
  - Is that you Strom?  TheKentuckian   Jul-24-09 12:18 AM   #106 
  - An officer is required by law to provide such upon request.  quiller4   Jul-24-09 12:27 AM   #107 
  - Hey everyone! "Ignore" is your friend!  gauguin57   Jul-24-09 12:54 AM   #117 
  - the ignore lists capn', they canna' take much more of this!!  Moochy   Jul-24-09 01:40 AM   #118 
     - LOL!  gauguin57   Jul-24-09 01:45 AM   #119 
        - I'm just glad there is a technical solution  Moochy   Jul-24-09 09:27 AM   #130 
  - Not a burglary suspect  Arkplayer   Jul-24-09 08:25 AM   #122 
  - Unrecommend  TexasObserver   Jul-24-09 08:49 AM   #124 
  - People have certain rights in thier own home  mkultra   Jul-24-09 09:31 AM   #132 
  - In order to file a complaint against a police officer one needs ID.  Warren Stupidity   Jul-24-09 10:27 AM   #134 
  - I agree with you. Gates and the Officer acted stupidly.  Evergreen Emerald   Jul-24-09 10:42 AM   #137 
  - Yup, maybe so, but people have a right to act stupidly in their own  JayMusgrove   Jul-24-09 10:45 AM   #138 
  - He's no longer here to be glad that yet another DUer agrees with this nonsense. (nt)  redqueen   Jul-24-09 04:22 PM   #145 
  - And thank goodness for that. One person saying that BS was more than enough.  DevonRex   Jul-24-09 04:29 PM   #147 
  - Seems that RG got his pizza. Do you still agree with him? Hmmm????  DevonRex   Jul-24-09 04:28 PM   #146 
  - LOL! omigod.  Lerkfish   Jul-24-09 06:17 PM   #149 
  - That opinion got the poster a pizza  Raine   Jul-24-09 06:32 PM   #151 
  - And here it comes  Evergreen Emerald   Jul-24-09 06:46 PM   #152 
     - I think when one finds oneself agreeing with racists, its a good time to reconsider  Lerkfish   Jul-24-09 08:44 PM   #153 
     - Lerkfish: Obama said this was a teaching moment: what a shame you do not agree.  Evergreen Emerald   Jul-24-09 09:31 PM   #157 
        - I never called you anything.  Lerkfish   Jul-25-09 06:47 AM   #165 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-25-09 10:40 AM   #167 
           - You are wrong  Evergreen Emerald   Jul-25-09 11:35 AM   #170 
     - No one called you a racist  Raine   Jul-24-09 08:53 PM   #154 
  - Not surprising.  Forkboy   Jul-24-09 09:03 PM   #155 
     - Hi forkboy.  Evergreen Emerald   Jul-24-09 09:32 PM   #158 
  - The point? It was his right to ask, and the officer's duty to comply with the request.  tsuki   Jul-24-09 04:32 PM   #148 
  - For their own safety women are told to ask  Raine   Jul-24-09 06:28 PM   #150 
  - Probably to wage a complaint against a public servant.  tabasco   Jul-24-09 09:51 PM   #160 
  - you have to see it from Gates position  krawhitham   Jul-24-09 09:58 PM   #161 
  - How sad, this OP is now deceased. With pepperoni.  kestrel91316   Jul-24-09 10:09 PM   #162 
  - Oh, Stop Already....PLEASE!!! Sometimes Police Go Too Far... Sometimes  ChiciB1   Jul-24-09 10:48 PM   #164 
  - NEVER allow a suspect out of your sight  Jeff In Milwaukee   Jul-25-09 07:25 AM   #166 
  - Maybe he wanted to file a complaint?  Politicub   Jul-25-09 10:52 AM   #168 
  - One of the best tombstone's ever. n/t  JTFrog   Jul-25-09 10:53 AM   #169 
  - Locking since the OP  wakemeupwhenitsover   Jul-25-09 12:17 PM   #171 
 

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