MercutioATC
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Thu Jul-09-09 07:50 PM
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| 16. ...which, since the actual numbers show an INCREASE in claims.... |
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...probably would have made the picture even worse.
(unless you believe that somebody bucked the trend and hired a LOT of people on Friday)
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| -Jobless claims drop steeply, skewed by autos |
ProSense |
Jul-09-09 06:42 PM |
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Does that mean that had it not been for the auto layoffs that the number would |
grantcart |
Jul-09-09 06:48 PM |
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It means that jobless claims ROSE, but "seasonal accounting" shows them decreasing. |
MercutioATC |
Jul-09-09 06:52 PM |
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Wrong, |
ProSense |
Jul-09-09 07:00 PM |
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Oh no, I'm right: (from another source) |
MercutioATC |
Jul-09-09 07:13 PM |
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Yeap, also people SHOULD be looking at U6 unemployment not U3. You have to look at ... |
uponit7771 |
Jul-10-09 06:50 AM |
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You are correct. |
Beacool |
Jul-10-09 10:45 AM |
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You left out this tidbit: |
MercutioATC |
Jul-09-09 06:49 PM |
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Search the OP for "seasonally adjusted." Now why do you think the text you linked to changes |
ProSense |
Jul-09-09 06:55 PM |
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Is English not your first language? |
MercutioATC |
Jul-09-09 07:07 PM |
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It obviously is yours. |
ProSense |
Jul-09-09 07:13 PM |
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The U.S. Department of Labor disagrees with you. |
MercutioATC |
Jul-09-09 07:15 PM |
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No, it doesn't |
ProSense |
Jul-09-09 07:21 PM |
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The simple truth is that more people filed initial unemployment claims. |
MercutioATC |
Jul-09-09 07:25 PM |
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BS. Become informed |
ProSense |
Jul-09-09 07:28 PM |
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I think we can all draw our own conclusions from the actual numbers. |
MercutioATC |
Jul-09-09 07:39 PM |
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Oh brother. n/t |
ProSense |
Jul-09-09 07:41 PM |
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No they're not, they're moving slowing in the WRONG direction. Slowly but its... |
uponit7771 |
Jul-10-09 07:07 AM |
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****THEY DIDN'T ACCOUNT FOR SHORT JULY 4TH WEEK**** |
uponit7771 |
Jul-09-09 07:40 PM |
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...which, since the actual numbers show an INCREASE in claims.... |
MercutioATC |
Jul-09-09 07:50 PM |
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Did they not know it was coming? |
Clio the Leo |
Jul-09-09 08:53 PM |
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It was footnoted IIRC |
uponit7771 |
Jul-10-09 06:37 AM |
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Was this sarcasm? |
ProSense |
Jul-09-09 08:56 PM |
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No, that's the honest truth..... |
Clio the Leo |
Jul-09-09 09:02 PM |
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Like I said, |
ProSense |
Jul-09-09 09:07 PM |
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I know...... |
Clio the Leo |
Jul-09-09 09:11 PM |
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I think that is what the seasonal adjustment does, adjusts for unusual calendar events |
grantcart |
Jul-09-09 10:16 PM |
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Actually, that's one thing it doesn't do. |
MercutioATC |
Jul-10-09 05:48 AM |
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Bingo!!!! |
Dr.Phool |
Jul-10-09 06:30 AM |
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RIGHT!!! U3 Rate roll off is still occuring even though the UE benefits were extended for 6 months |
uponit7771 |
Jul-10-09 06:46 AM |
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Here's the part that I find the most comforting... |
Clio the Leo |
Jul-09-09 09:04 PM |
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Doesn't comfort the 4 unemployed people in my house. |
JTFrog |
Jul-10-09 06:06 AM |
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Those are still U3 rate numbers not U6 numbers, the U6 numbers are more important |
uponit7771 |
Jul-10-09 06:39 AM |
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So much for green shoots |
LittleBlue |
Jul-10-09 12:49 AM |
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They withered on the vine? |
Beacool |
Jul-10-09 10:47 AM |
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