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Response to Reply #135
149. Sorry, I hate to confuse you with subtle details and logic...
which may better reflect the subtleties of details in politics and human society in general... but which are just so much work to try to understand.

Much easier to pretend everything is black and white... bundle up a couple 3-5 stock comments... and trundle off to a discussion, all ready to tweak the grammar of your stock comments in order to try to make them fit more "organically" into a conversation... so that they don't feel so much like a hamfisted job of pasting the same comment/sentiment into a conversation at every lull... over and over and over again.

Sorry again... didn't mean to infringe on your conversational schedule with... gasp... the "convoluted logic" inherent in an explanation of a subtle, complicated, and perhaps even "convoluted" point.

From now on I'll stick to sarcasm when/if I respond to you.

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  The paternalism and hostility towards LGBTers must end Prism  Jul-02-09 03:27 AM   #0 
   Off to the Greatest Page with you  NMMNG   Jul-02-09 04:17 AM   #1 
   K&R  PVnRT   Jul-02-09 07:27 AM   #2 
   May I ask a question? i.e., Devils Advocate only?  hlthe2b   Jul-02-09 07:29 AM   #3 
   In short, no  Prism   Jul-02-09 10:59 AM   #16 
      I believe the poster meant what I have stated previously  goclark   Jul-03-09 11:29 AM   #244 
         I posted this link to you on the 25th of June.  Starry Messenger   Jul-03-09 12:34 PM   #249 
         PFLAG is an excellent resource for allies  Prism   Jul-03-09 01:56 PM   #256 
   it's discouraging to see it.  cali   Jul-02-09 07:35 AM   #4 
   I agree...  LooseWilly   Jul-03-09 05:05 AM   #234 
   thank you  dsc   Jul-02-09 07:55 AM   #5 
   I don't understand it either. It seems obvious to me that discrimination against LGBT hurts  CTyankee   Jul-02-09 09:08 AM   #6 
   Well said  Prism   Jul-02-09 11:38 AM   #24 
      You are so welcome.  CTyankee   Jul-02-09 12:05 PM   #31 
   There are people on this board who seem to believe...  Zenlitened   Jul-02-09 09:24 AM   #7 
   Bravo!  TokenQueer   Jul-02-09 09:54 AM   #8 
   Recommended, but I think the criticism should go both ways.  Dawgs   Jul-02-09 10:04 AM   #9 
   Excellent point n/t  Proud Liberal Dem   Jul-02-09 10:26 AM   #10 
   Straight DUers are just gonna have to swallow their pride on this issue.  RandomKoolzip   Jul-02-09 10:28 AM   #11 
   I'm sorry. I can't just swallow my pride when someone gets angry for no reason.  Dawgs   Jul-02-09 11:54 AM   #27 
   Are you gay?  Starry Messenger   Jul-02-09 12:02 PM   #30 
   Yes. I do.  Dawgs   Jul-02-09 03:47 PM   #46 
      You can "decide" all you want then.  Starry Messenger   Jul-02-09 03:58 PM   #53 
   Who defines no reason?  Prism   Jul-02-09 12:19 PM   #35 
   When every reason is an excuse to attack, then whoever does the attacking is not thinking rationally  Dawgs   Jul-02-09 03:48 PM   #47 
   I don't see much attacking in this thread  Prism   Jul-02-09 03:50 PM   #48 
      +1 n/t  TokenQueer   Jul-02-09 03:55 PM   #51 
   The definition of "No reason" will be found in Posts #27 and #30  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 04:59 PM   #68 
      But Starry makes the crucial point  Prism   Jul-02-09 05:12 PM   #70 
      by attacking.  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 05:19 PM   #71 
      It wasn't an attack, it was a statement  Prism   Jul-02-09 05:31 PM   #81 
         It was an attack, it is a perfect example, it is chronic and it will be a lost opportunity  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 05:44 PM   #87 
         It was not an attack. It was an elucidation of the "paternalism" displayed  LooseWilly   Jul-02-09 06:31 PM   #128 
         Read with and open mind and learn LW or not. I am not following any more of your convoluted logic.  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 06:37 PM   #135 
         Sorry, I hate to confuse you with subtle details and logic...  LooseWilly   Jul-02-09 06:54 PM   #149 
            Just don't respond b/c I'm not going to read it. Thank you.  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 06:55 PM   #150 
               So you're responding to tell me you're not going to read... then why respond?  LooseWilly   Jul-02-09 07:09 PM   #161 
                  Exactly  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 07:22 PM   #163 
                     What a shock... you're not reading, but you are still going to respond...  LooseWilly   Jul-02-09 07:42 PM   #168 
                        I'm sorry for you  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 07:56 PM   #173 
                           Thanks?  LooseWilly   Jul-02-09 08:05 PM   #176 
         Thank you. Excellent explanation.  Starry Messenger   Jul-02-09 06:38 PM   #136 
         More of this  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 06:41 PM   #140 
            It was not a justification... it was an *explanation*... one which you choose to ignore.  LooseWilly   Jul-02-09 09:01 PM   #187 
         This is an elucidation of the "paternalism" displayed  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 09:14 PM   #188 
            You miss the point that the judgement that a poster makes that there is "no reason"  LooseWilly   Jul-02-09 09:55 PM   #193 
               Commonly known as "the benefit of the doubt." All the other assumptions, justifications are silly.  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 10:14 PM   #195 
                  I notice that you're conveniently ignoring the paternalism/maternalism question.  LooseWilly   Jul-02-09 11:04 PM   #205 
                     I don't share the assumptions you make and the SM made, which I pointed out were questionable  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 11:18 PM   #207 
                        I disagree with you about these premises as well... but I don't consider "benefit of the doubt" a  LooseWilly   Jul-02-09 11:51 PM   #212 
                           you can't link to another thread and you're calling out the poster.  omega minimo   Jul-03-09 12:01 AM   #213 
                              I found what seemed like a relevant link.  LooseWilly   Jul-03-09 12:32 AM   #217 
                                 Violates DU Rules. Don't link to other threads.  omega minimo   Jul-03-09 12:47 AM   #219 
                                 Ok, respond to the rest of my posts...  LooseWilly   Jul-03-09 12:54 AM   #221 
         It was not an attack  varelse   Jul-02-09 07:57 PM   #174 
            It's a good example  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 08:32 PM   #181 
               He, he doesn't like to fight =) n/t  Prism   Jul-02-09 08:40 PM   #182 
               He doesn't like to fight and has a way with words and with people  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 08:51 PM   #185 
               It's not so much your initial reply that caught my attention  varelse   Jul-02-09 09:15 PM   #189 
                  Yes it was  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 09:25 PM   #191 
         It wasn't an attack, it was a statement  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 08:49 PM   #184 
      Exactly.  Starry Messenger   Jul-02-09 09:17 PM   #190 
         the murkiness of "no reason" seems to have become a major stumbling block here  LooseWilly   Jul-03-09 12:52 AM   #220 
            The major stumbling block  omega minimo   Jul-03-09 01:37 AM   #227 
               "healthier for discussion"... is that your line of justification for this?  LooseWilly   Jul-03-09 04:53 AM   #233 
                  "healthier for discussion" -- seems it would be good thing  omega minimo   Jul-03-09 01:32 PM   #255 
      You have a funny notion of what constitutes a definition.  LooseWilly   Jul-02-09 05:23 PM   #74 
         The definition is in the behavior. #30 had "no reason" to attack  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 05:26 PM   #76 
            There is no behavior cited to call a definition. You do realize that, right?  LooseWilly   Jul-02-09 05:55 PM   #96 
               Thank you LW. Don't bother with any more of your dissections.  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 06:04 PM   #101 
                  It's good that you're able to apologize to LW.  Zenlitened   Jul-02-09 06:12 PM   #106 
                     Every one of these bullshit swipes is an example of the petty games under discussion.  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 06:15 PM   #109 
                        ???? I thought you were agreeing with LW????  Zenlitened   Jul-02-09 06:31 PM   #126 
                        I was not being snarky. I was trying to politely  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 06:39 PM   #137 
                        "Your ill attitude and insinuations are indicative of what is being pointed out here."  LooseWilly   Jul-02-09 06:39 PM   #138 
   You said it yourself... "for NO reason"  MNBrewer   Jul-02-09 07:24 PM   #165 
      No one here knows exactly what the poster is referring to.  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 10:44 PM   #201 
   I'm as subject to human nature as anyone.  lumberjack_jeff   Jul-02-09 12:52 PM   #39 
   It shouldn't be an either/or proposition  Prism   Jul-02-09 01:00 PM   #40 
      Sometimes it's easy to interpret it that way when that is the stated intent.  lumberjack_jeff   Jul-02-09 01:14 PM   #41 
   That's funny. Can any other groups without their civil rights get that carte blanche?  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 04:35 PM   #64 
   I can understand your position  justiceischeap   Jul-02-09 10:28 AM   #12 
   I'm not saying you shouldn't be angry. I just think that sometimes it's missplaced.  Dawgs   Jul-02-09 11:47 AM   #25 
   Well said.  Daemonaquila   Jul-02-09 07:32 PM   #167 
   This is  ruggerson   Jul-02-09 10:39 AM   #13 
   This is perfect both times around  Prism   Jul-02-09 11:08 AM   #19 
   I agree, but that doesn't have anything to do with my post.  Dawgs   Jul-02-09 11:52 AM   #26 
      I've seen a lot of those "honest discussions"  Starry Messenger   Jul-02-09 12:00 PM   #29 
      That's how you define "honest discussion"; not me.  Dawgs   Jul-02-09 03:44 PM   #44 
      I did not say that you did.  Starry Messenger   Jul-02-09 03:52 PM   #50 
      "Straight people need to chill and listen and do less talking."  omega minimo   Jul-03-09 03:26 AM   #230 
         Pot, meet Kettle...  LooseWilly   Jul-03-09 05:08 AM   #235 
            Willy, make sense.  omega minimo   Jul-03-09 10:15 AM   #239 
      Too many aren't that honest  Prism   Jul-02-09 12:26 PM   #38 
         I agree. I've said that many are not honest.  Dawgs   Jul-02-09 03:45 PM   #45 
   Understood  Prism   Jul-02-09 11:05 AM   #18 
   Not trying to start a fight, but do you think Obama deserves to be called a bigot or homophobe.  Dawgs   Jul-02-09 11:57 AM   #28 
      I don't know the man  Prism   Jul-02-09 12:10 PM   #32 
      A question: do you believe that those that oppose interracial marriage deserve to be called racists?  VMI Dem   Jul-02-09 12:17 PM   #33 
      It's an undeniable point n/t  Prism   Jul-02-09 12:20 PM   #36 
      Yes. I do.  Dawgs   Jul-02-09 03:52 PM   #49 
         The President opposes same-sex marriage  Prism   Jul-02-09 03:55 PM   #52 
      I prefer "Political Opportunist"...  TokenQueer   Jul-02-09 12:18 PM   #34 
      He has come right out and said he does not believe gay people should be allowed to marry  Mystayya   Jul-03-09 12:27 PM   #248 
   Agreed - and  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 04:30 PM   #62 
   recommended n/t  ruggerson   Jul-02-09 10:41 AM   #14 
   K&R. Some straights will rationalize anything Obama does or doesn't do. I'm not one of them.  solstice   Jul-02-09 10:48 AM   #15 
   The LGBT fight is a powerfully good fight.  lunatica   Jul-02-09 11:02 AM   #17 
   I'd be remiss  Prism   Jul-02-09 11:12 AM   #20 
      Ditto.  TokenQueer   Jul-02-09 11:15 AM   #21 
      Ditto.  TokenQueer   Jul-02-09 11:15 AM   #22 
      Thank you for saying that ~  goclark   Jul-03-09 12:25 PM   #247 
   recommended.  Starry Messenger   Jul-02-09 11:36 AM   #23 
   I have to admit that I am surprised by the treatment gays receive on this very site.  VMI Dem   Jul-02-09 12:25 PM   #37 
   Only 450 posts in 4 years?...  Robeson   Jul-02-09 01:46 PM   #42 
   Thanks!  Prism   Jul-02-09 03:15 PM   #43 
   Your allies are tired of being told they suck.  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 04:02 PM   #54 
   Well if that's their biggest problem . . .  Prism   Jul-02-09 04:06 PM   #55 
   Whoooosh!!!!! Sounds like you are dealing with troublemakers after your allies are shut up by being  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 04:13 PM   #56 
      Troublemakers like...........you?  TokenQueer   Jul-02-09 04:21 PM   #58 
      I would say the same back; having noticed what Forum this Greatest OP is in, you've proven my point.  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 04:23 PM   #60 
      I have a different view  Prism   Jul-02-09 04:21 PM   #59 
         Prism, I think part of the mystery  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 04:28 PM   #61 
            I appreciate the tone of your response  Prism   Jul-02-09 04:33 PM   #63 
               Thank you for the reasoned OP  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 04:41 PM   #66 
   Don't you mean "allies"?  LooseWilly   Jul-02-09 04:35 PM   #65 
   !!!!!11111!1!!!! !!!^%^$^&5WR$qw!!!!!11111  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 04:43 PM   #67 
   allies like you?  mitchtv   Jul-02-09 05:20 PM   #72 
   Another fine example  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 05:27 PM   #77 
   another fine example of an idiot trying desperately  mitchtv   Jul-03-09 05:13 PM   #268 
   No that would be "allies." n/t  bluedawg12   Jul-02-09 05:37 PM   #84 
      If you have an open mind  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 05:52 PM   #94 
   Well, guess what? You suck.  chascarrillo   Jul-02-09 07:05 PM   #157 
      Another example of the crap behavior being pointed out here. Including the false accusations.  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 07:24 PM   #166 
   This post....  SacredCow   Jul-02-09 04:15 PM   #57 
   As a gay man, I have NOT seen this "paternalism and hostility"  Political Tiger   Jul-02-09 05:08 PM   #69 
   There it is.  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 05:21 PM   #73 
   Maybe you shoud re-read part of your post.  Behind the Aegis   Jul-02-09 05:23 PM   #75 
   OK, I re-read it...and? n/t  Political Tiger   Jul-02-09 05:28 PM   #79 
   Apparently nothing else from your post sank in. Your excellent post will reach others.  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 05:47 PM   #90 
      "Your excellent post will reach others."  Number23   Jul-02-09 06:11 PM   #104 
      Well, there's that.  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 06:17 PM   #111 
      Perhaps it didn't sink in for you. It is apparent from your attitude and behavior.  Behind the Aegis   Jul-02-09 08:59 PM   #186 
         I understood the post with no need  omega minimo   Jul-03-09 02:54 AM   #229 
   That sounds like Nya Nya Nya Nyah Nya!!!  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 05:29 PM   #80 
      Can we hear Prism & Political Tiger without the playground stuff in between? A fascinating debate.  Jackeens   Jul-02-09 05:39 PM   #85 
         you  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 05:45 PM   #88 
            Prism & Political Tiger's thoughts? Reflective and absorbing. "Nya Nya Nya Nyah Nya"? Not so much.  Jackeens   Jul-02-09 05:56 PM   #97 
               That would be you  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 06:01 PM   #100 
                  "Don't think your antics are not appreciated for what they are." Oh omega minimo......  Jackeens   Jul-02-09 06:09 PM   #103 
                     You are "intruding with inflammatory and mindless shit-stirring. "  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 06:16 PM   #110 
                        Flame, flame, flame, flame, flame....  Jackeens   Jul-02-09 06:17 PM   #112 
                        "Goodbye" speaks for itself.  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 06:27 PM   #119 
                           Well done omega minimo, mission accomplished: your spamming of this thread has wrecked it.  Jackeens   Jul-02-09 06:30 PM   #122 
                              Look in the mirror.  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 06:31 PM   #127 
                              STOP IT. BOTH OF YOU.  Number23   Jul-02-09 06:37 PM   #134 
                                 Sorry Number23, war over - promise!  Jackeens   Jul-02-09 06:48 PM   #146 
                                 "Both"?  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 06:50 PM   #148 
                              No, Jackeens, she (and others) have not wrecked it  ruggerson   Jul-02-09 06:41 PM   #139 
                                 how can you not take this opportunity to read with an open mind?  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 06:46 PM   #142 
                                 You're spot on ruggerson  Jackeens   Jul-02-09 06:47 PM   # 
                        You are some piece of work  cboy4   Jul-03-09 04:03 AM   #232 
                           another example  omega minimo   Jul-03-09 10:31 AM   #240 
                              Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-03-09 11:15 AM   #243 
                                 Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-03-09 11:34 AM   #245 
   This is a striking portrayal of the illusion of privilege  Prism   Jul-02-09 05:28 PM   #78 
   This is as good as it gets.  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 05:40 PM   #86 
   What privilege?  Political Tiger   Jul-02-09 05:49 PM   #92 
   True and truer  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 05:59 PM   #98 
   Privilege would mean, speaking only for myself PT -  bluedawg12   Jul-02-09 06:12 PM   #105 
   Well, I can't disagree with anything you said!  Political Tiger   Jul-02-09 06:27 PM   #120 
      I wonder  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 06:57 PM   #152 
      Political Tiger you hit on a number of important points.  bluedawg12   Jul-02-09 07:03 PM   #155 
         You have made a good case for the need to address women's rights in order to achieve gender equality  omega minimo   Jul-03-09 03:34 AM   #231 
   I think we disagree on a point of interpretation vs. practical application  Prism   Jul-02-09 06:14 PM   #108 
      Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-02-09 06:20 PM   #114 
      I notice it  Prism   Jul-02-09 06:23 PM   #116 
         "And I believe the only way to repair it is by going straight on through."  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 06:25 PM   #118 
         the missing message was a compliment to your communications skills. I know you took it that way.  omega minimo   Jul-03-09 04:49 PM   #266 
      Possibly  Political Tiger   Jul-02-09 06:55 PM   #151 
         I don't disagree with most of what you've stated  Prism   Jul-02-09 07:04 PM   #156 
         But Obama's Secretary of Defense undercut that argument a day later  ruggerson   Jul-02-09 07:08 PM   #159 
         I think an excutive order to stop the discharge of gay service members  bluedawg12   Jul-02-09 07:24 PM   #164 
         Sometimes boldness is called for.  Daemonaquila   Jul-02-09 07:55 PM   #172 
            Well-said, 100% n/t  Prism   Jul-02-09 08:04 PM   #175 
   Excellent post. I wouldn't alter/dissect/dissemble a word of it.  Zenlitened   Jul-02-09 06:28 PM   #121 
   I have seen anger and name calling at GLBT's for fighting for justice.  bluedawg12   Jul-02-09 05:35 PM   #83 
   .  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 05:48 PM   #91 
   Thanks for your post  CakeGrrl   Jul-02-09 05:47 PM   #89 
   "The hyperbole is combative and shuts down any chance to have a dialogue that won't flame out."  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 05:50 PM   #93 
   It isn't a black and white dichotomy, though  Prism   Jul-02-09 06:00 PM   #99 
      Speaking of "the woodshed" where've you been hiding out?  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 06:13 PM   #107 
      I agree  Prism   Jul-02-09 06:20 PM   #113 
         Wow.  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 06:23 PM   #115 
      that's a very good point  Number23   Jul-02-09 06:24 PM   #117 
         I think . . .  Prism   Jul-02-09 06:30 PM   #124 
            I appreciate your desire to view that particular incident in the manner you've viewed it.  Number23   Jul-02-09 06:36 PM   #133 
            who said she did this on her own?  marimour   Jul-03-09 03:05 PM   #259 
               I disagree  Prism   Jul-03-09 03:16 PM   #262 
                  criedit DOJ? I was talking about Obama  marimour   Jul-03-09 03:23 PM   #263 
                     Your complaint seems oppositely directed  Prism   Jul-03-09 04:11 PM   #264 
   +100. You win.  Number23   Jul-02-09 06:09 PM   #102 
   This isn't a game. This is about people's lives.  ruggerson   Jul-02-09 06:30 PM   #123 
      It's about all of our lives. A civil discussion reflects and respects that.  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 06:33 PM   #131 
      I haven't even read the story  Prism   Jul-02-09 06:44 PM   #141 
      It's breaking all over the news  ruggerson   Jul-02-09 06:50 PM   #147 
         That's fucking heartbreaking.  Starry Messenger   Jul-02-09 06:59 PM   #153 
         This gives a little more background  ruggerson   Jul-02-09 07:44 PM   #169 
         Ugh  Prism   Jul-02-09 07:08 PM   #160 
      A US Marine was murdered at Camp Pendelton as a hate crime?  bluedawg12   Jul-02-09 07:08 PM   #158 
         a black gay marine and it wasnt a hate crime (it was a random murder)  marimour   Jul-03-09 03:08 PM   #260 
   Agreed. Every word. No one on here is targetting GLBT members.  jazzjunkysue   Jul-02-09 06:47 PM   #144 
   AND you're funny  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 06:59 PM   #154 
   If you haven't seen hostility towards gay people here  ruggerson   Jul-02-09 06:47 PM   #145 
   "they...they...they....they"  Neecy   Jul-02-09 08:17 PM   #177 
   Neecy  ruggerson   Jul-02-09 08:47 PM   #183 
   Well said Political Tiger...I appreciate your posts and I've read  firedupdem   Jul-02-09 08:23 PM   #180 
   Your reply is thought provoking  grantcart   Jul-02-09 09:58 PM   #194 
   Ah, but see, you reverse the onus  Prism   Jul-02-09 10:15 PM   #196 
   beautifully expressed - the one or two people who routinely express a decidedly minority opinion  ruggerson   Jul-02-09 10:24 PM   #198 
   Who on this board holds "noxious beliefs"  HamdenRice   Jul-03-09 10:01 AM   #237 
   calling different beliefs noxious is part of the problem  marimour   Jul-03-09 03:12 PM   #261 
   That is the dichotomy that you embrace, I do not  grantcart   Jul-02-09 11:17 PM   #206 
      I cannot fully reply to you  Prism   Jul-02-09 11:32 PM   #210 
         delete. wrong area.  Robeson   Jul-03-09 12:17 AM   #214 
   sadly, grantcart  ruggerson   Jul-02-09 10:41 PM   #200 
      At what point did you not think that the GLBT community has a long rich history of  grantcart   Jul-02-09 11:34 PM   #211 
         I can't speak for Prism  ruggerson   Jul-03-09 12:45 AM   #218 
         I apologize that my reply above was so garbled but you seemed to  grantcart   Jul-03-09 01:21 AM   #225 
         He's talking about what we're talking about.  omega minimo   Jul-03-09 01:00 PM   #254 
         Ruggerson is correct  Prism   Jul-03-09 01:10 AM   #223 
   Thank you for this very thoughtful post! nt  HamdenRice   Jul-03-09 10:03 AM   #238 
   You make some excellent points in your OP Prism.  bluedawg12   Jul-02-09 05:33 PM   #82 
   Righteous cause, indeed  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 05:53 PM   #95 
   Prism, please post more on DU, I love your insight. Thanks.  Jackeens   Jul-02-09 06:30 PM   #125 
   Thank you for that  Prism   Jul-02-09 06:47 PM   #143 
   Jackeens - thank you.  bluedawg12   Jul-02-09 07:13 PM   #162 
      Thank you back bluedawg12  Jackeens   Jul-02-09 07:47 PM   #170 
         Thanks, Jackeens, we really are in this together.  bluedawg12   Jul-02-09 10:36 PM   #199 
   Who cares who screws who? It's all just skin.  Fire Walk With Me   Jul-02-09 06:32 PM   #129 
   The disruptors in this thread merely prove the OP's point  ruggerson   Jul-02-09 06:32 PM   #130 
   So apparently you won't be reading and learning from all of the insights here.  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 06:35 PM   #132 
   K&R  varelse   Jul-02-09 07:48 PM   #171 
   I ain't nobodies daddy  quakerboy   Jul-02-09 08:17 PM   #178 
   I am on your side.  Dappleganger   Jul-02-09 08:18 PM   #179 
   My political act for the day: I'm OUT. I'm GAY. And OK this is  trickyguy   Jul-02-09 09:52 PM   #192 
   Well  Prism   Jul-02-09 10:51 PM   #203 
   Maybe it's time for a new coalition, a return to when groups worked together  omega minimo   Jul-02-09 10:18 PM   #197 
   which groups would you base that cooperation upon?  LooseWilly   Jul-03-09 05:22 AM   #236 
      Those that can comprehend working together  omega minimo   Jul-03-09 10:33 AM   #241 
   K&R....We March...  AntiFascist   Jul-02-09 10:48 PM   #202 
   Despite raising thousands of dollars for LGBT causes and hundreds of hours during LGBT grassroots...  zulchzulu   Jul-02-09 11:03 PM   #204 
   I wish I could applaud the OP but I'm reluctant to do so.  crim son   Jul-02-09 11:23 PM   #208 
   Now seems as good a time as any  Prism   Jul-02-09 11:27 PM   #209 
      Laughing.  crim son   Jul-03-09 12:30 AM   #216 
         With all due respect  Prism   Jul-03-09 01:00 AM   #222 
            Since it's here  bluedawg12   Jul-03-09 01:37 AM   #226 
            Is that out in paperback yet?  omega minimo   Jul-03-09 02:05 AM   #228 
            I would like to make a suggestion  Mystayya   Jul-03-09 10:56 AM   #242 
               What a remarkable reply  omega minimo   Jul-03-09 12:18 PM   #246 
                  I knew posting to you would be a mistake.  Mystayya   Jul-03-09 12:37 PM   #250 
                     If those words  omega minimo   Jul-03-09 12:49 PM   #252 
            Thanks for your thanks.  crim son   Jul-03-09 02:38 PM   #258 
   Kick again. I welcome your post, Prism. You've opened up a new paradigm here...  Robeson   Jul-03-09 12:22 AM   #215 
   k&r for equality NOW  livefreest   Jul-03-09 01:18 AM   #224 
   (shrug) Go it alone, then. Best wishes (not sarcastic).  BlooInBloo   Jul-03-09 12:44 PM   #251 
      If the shoes fit... nt  jumptheshadow   Jul-03-09 12:59 PM   #253 
      Exactly  Prism   Jul-03-09 02:33 PM   #257 
      Prism is not alone  varelse   Jul-03-09 04:42 PM   #265 
         Thank you  Prism   Jul-03-09 04:58 PM   #267 
 

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