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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 03:55 PM
Response to Reply #65
88. like a moth to a flame. It did it to us all. n/t
Edited on Sat Jun-27-09 03:55 PM by vaberella
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  -Obama should be challenged in the 2012 primary LoZoccolo  Jun-27-09 11:48 AM   #0 
  - Oh...snap!  CaliforniaPeggy   Jun-27-09 11:51 AM   #1 
  - We must not challenge the king  Sweet and Spicy   Jun-27-09 01:28 PM   #46 
     - thats right, we challenge the enemies of the left  mkultra   Jun-27-09 01:35 PM   #48 
     - the enemy would be you  Sweet and Spicy   Jun-27-09 01:38 PM   #52 
        - the left is ALWAYS better served by the party that leans closest to it  mkultra   Jun-27-09 02:41 PM   #70 
        - Hard to make that case in the Nineties.  Ken Burch   Jul-01-09 03:57 AM   #131 
        - "Kings"???  pnorman   Jun-27-09 06:39 PM   #106 
        - Thou disrupted poorly n/t  stevenleser   Jun-28-09 10:37 AM   #121 
           - That post really didn't merit 'stoning.  Ken Burch   Jul-01-09 03:59 AM   #132 
     - Clean up on isle five!!!!  cliffordu   Jun-27-09 10:39 PM   #115 
  - "but it's only been 5 months"...  lame54   Jun-27-09 11:53 AM   #2 
  - Good point  Oregone   Jun-27-09 12:07 PM   #9 
  - Why are people in the "Obama is not doing enough" crowd caring about time now?!  vaberella   Jun-27-09 12:20 PM   #14 
  - Too many on this board don't know how government works.  LiberalFighter   Jun-27-09 01:05 PM   #34 
     - +1. n/t  vaberella   Jun-27-09 01:14 PM   #42 
     - +2012  Number23   Jun-27-09 05:25 PM   #96 
     - Too many on this board don't get the fact that the entire game is rigged.  Political Heretic   Jun-27-09 05:48 PM   #99 
     - How so? Show me that you get it.  namecallerholic   Jun-28-09 08:00 PM   #126 
     - Two words: EXECUTIVE ORDER  derby378   Jun-28-09 03:43 PM   #122 
     - Too many on this board and in this country don't recognize the real problem  namecallerholic   Jun-28-09 07:52 PM   #125 
  - LOL  sisters6   Jun-27-09 12:30 PM   #18 
  - wow, you just made his case accidentally  mkultra   Jun-27-09 01:37 PM   #50 
  - no...  lame54   Jun-27-09 02:35 PM   #67 
     - actually, he made a statment against challenge  mkultra   Jun-27-09 02:40 PM   #69 
        - exactly...  lame54   Jun-27-09 02:42 PM   #71 
           - to be fair, he didnt make a statement for or against  mkultra   Jun-27-09 02:50 PM   #74 
              - I read it clearly as Obama should not be challenged...  lame54   Jun-27-09 02:59 PM   #76 
              - viewed through a dirty lens  mkultra   Jun-27-09 03:14 PM   #77 
                 - viewed through a grammatic lens  lame54   Jun-27-09 03:26 PM   #79 
                    - irony  mkultra   Jun-27-09 03:35 PM   #82 
              - The OP describes the idea of challenging Obama as "shit"  accuracyman   Jun-27-09 05:44 PM   #97 
  - I'm pretty sympathetic to Obama, but I agree completely.  Telly Savalas   Jun-27-09 01:52 PM   #55 
  - Kucinich is the answer.  Davis_X_Machina   Jun-27-09 11:56 AM   #3 
  - St. Dennis the Perfect of Cleveland  bluestateguy   Jun-27-09 11:56 AM   #4 
  - ROLF.  Phx_Dem   Jun-27-09 12:02 PM   #7 
  - Always.  jefferson_dem   Jun-27-09 12:12 PM   #10 
  - Actually, that last one kind of works.  RaleighNCDUer   Jun-27-09 12:56 PM   #30 
  - Bwahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!  Nedsdag   Jun-27-09 03:46 PM   #86 
  - then why is he incapable of even taking his state in a national election?  stray cat   Jun-27-09 02:05 PM   #60 
  - To a 50-state Republican landslide.  Drunken Irishman   Jun-27-09 03:18 PM   #78 
  - Well, It *Would* Be Nice To Have A Democrat After All These Years  MannyGoldstein   Jun-27-09 11:58 AM   #5 
  - If people say Obama doesn't have gifts, ethical center, intention to do what's right, hasn't been  MarjorieG   Jun-27-09 12:22 PM   #15 
  - Are Those The Reasons Bush Did These Things?  MannyGoldstein   Jun-27-09 12:34 PM   #21 
  - I know you are one of those always critical of Obama, and DU has become a place where critical  MarjorieG   Jun-27-09 12:50 PM   #26 
     - What He's Doing Is Indistinguishable From Triangulation  MannyGoldstein   Jun-27-09 02:32 PM   #66 
  - The problem is...  Yukari Yakumo   Jun-27-09 01:04 PM   #33 
     - +1 nt  MannyGoldstein   Jun-27-09 02:13 PM   #62 
  - Aww... did you lose your pony again?  zulchzulu   Jun-29-09 09:43 AM   #129 
  - If anyone thinks they can knock him off the ballot in 2012, they are free to give it a shot.  AtomicKitten   Jun-27-09 11:59 AM   #6 
  - I'm glad you're a million times smarter than the OP.  Forkboy   Jun-27-09 12:53 PM   #29 
  - That's just how democracy rolls. ;)  AtomicKitten   Jun-27-09 01:06 PM   #35 
  - only an idiot would favor challenging an incumbent  mkultra   Jun-27-09 01:39 PM   #53 
     - They won't win.  Forkboy   Jun-27-09 01:46 PM   #54 
        - if we challenge our own incumbent, they will  mkultra   Jun-27-09 02:39 PM   #68 
           - Obama's in for a 2nd term  Forkboy   Jun-27-09 02:44 PM   #72 
              - foolish hubris will not serve our interests  mkultra   Jun-27-09 02:48 PM   #73 
                 - Assuming we know exactly why they walked across the line  Proud Liberal Dem   Jun-28-09 12:20 AM   #120 
  - +1 n/t  vaberella   Jun-27-09 01:16 PM   #43 
  - well said  mdmc   Jun-27-09 04:23 PM   #92 
  - So are all your trollish OPs  Oregone   Jun-27-09 12:06 PM   #8 
  - There are Dems on this site doing that themselves.  vaberella   Jun-27-09 12:13 PM   #11 
     - It's the perpetual yearning by some for a primary do-over.  AtomicKitten   Jun-27-09 12:14 PM   #12 
     - Exactly. The one's stirring the dissension never wanted him in  firedupdem   Jun-27-09 12:35 PM   #22 
        - It's the same dismissive, disrespectful rhetoric we heard during the campaign.  AtomicKitten   Jun-27-09 12:46 PM   #25 
           - You said it!  AZBlue   Jul-05-09 10:56 PM   #133 
     - "They're making out Obama to be worse than any President on earth."  Oregone   Jun-27-09 12:16 PM   #13 
        - "criticize to educate" ... We wish.  AtomicKitten   Jun-27-09 12:23 PM   #16 
        - Fair enough. And for the OP, Democratic Douchebaggery == helping Palin  Oregone   Jun-27-09 12:37 PM   #23 
           - You seem have to have missed a key point.  AtomicKitten   Jun-27-09 12:52 PM   #27 
        - What are you talking about?!  vaberella   Jun-27-09 12:28 PM   #17 
           - "If that's not making him out to the if not one of the shittiest presidents on earth I don't know"  Oregone   Jun-27-09 12:33 PM   #19 
           - Huh...okay...  vaberella   Jun-27-09 01:11 PM   #38 
           - I have not seen posts wanting another candidate (D)--here on DU. LOts  sisters6   Jun-27-09 12:34 PM   #20 
              - How long have you been here to think you have the qualifications to state that?  vaberella   Jun-27-09 12:58 PM   #31 
              - and, like you, I am mentioning the posts  sisters6   Jun-27-09 01:06 PM   #36 
                 - And I'm saying there are plenty. And I've given you one thread...  vaberella   Jun-27-09 01:14 PM   #40 
                    - Saying there  sisters6   Jun-27-09 01:20 PM   #44 
              - I've seen a couple.  Forkboy   Jun-27-09 01:11 PM   #37 
                 - Good point.  vaberella   Jun-27-09 01:13 PM   #39 
                    - Always hard to tell on DU.  Forkboy   Jun-27-09 01:25 PM   #45 
                       - Agreed.  vaberella   Jun-27-09 01:37 PM   #49 
  - Oh well. I'll be looking at other Dems.  Forkboy   Jun-27-09 12:45 PM   #24 
  - I agree  Baltoman991   Jun-27-09 12:52 PM   #28 
  - The Statement "Obama should be challenged in the 2012 primary"  FrenchieCat   Jun-27-09 01:01 PM   #32 
  - Huey Long spent a lot of time challenging FDR. Was that a "nightmare"  Oregone   Jun-27-09 01:14 PM   #41 
     - It'd make more sense comparing an Obama primary challenge to Ted Kennedy against Carter  argonaut   Jun-27-09 01:33 PM   #47 
        - Why would that make more sense?  Oregone   Jun-27-09 01:37 PM   #51 
        - Because this is a different era than when FDR was president.  pot luck   Jun-27-09 02:12 PM   #61 
           - I don't know  AllentownJake   Jun-27-09 03:35 PM   #83 
        - Ding ding ding  Baltoman991   Jun-27-09 01:57 PM   #56 
           - Thats just demagoguery: casting constructive criticism as weakening the party  Oregone   Jun-27-09 02:01 PM   #57 
              - Your idea  Baltoman991   Jun-27-09 02:26 PM   #64 
                 - What has he done?  AllentownJake   Jun-27-09 03:36 PM   #84 
                    - Give it  Baltoman991   Jun-27-09 03:54 PM   #87 
                    - I was a team leader during the Primary  AllentownJake   Jun-27-09 05:09 PM   #94 
                    - For Starters  subcomhd   Jun-27-09 05:48 PM   #100 
                       - See that is an answer  AllentownJake   Jun-27-09 06:21 PM   #105 
                          - Lifted Bush's Ban on Embryonic Stem-Cell Research  subcomhd   Jun-27-09 07:11 PM   #107 
                             - Another fine answer  AllentownJake   Jun-27-09 07:17 PM   #108 
                                - Expanded Childrens' Health Care Coverage by taxing cigs.  subcomhd   Jun-27-09 07:24 PM   #110 
                                   - Excellent accomplishment  AllentownJake   Jun-27-09 07:27 PM   #111 
                                      - (re)Revoked "Mexico City" Policy  subcomhd   Jun-27-09 11:40 PM   #116 
  - He will be - by a republican and people are nuts if they think the GOP will be better for them  stray cat   Jun-27-09 02:04 PM   #58 
  - The power of your Logic  quakerboy   Jun-27-09 02:04 PM   #59 
  - Wonderful flypaper thread.  BlooInBloo   Jun-27-09 02:26 PM   #63 
  - It lured you in.  Forkboy   Jun-27-09 02:29 PM   #65 
     - like a moth to a flame. It did it to us all. n/t  vaberella   Jun-27-09 03:55 PM   #88 
        - LOL  Forkboy   Jun-27-09 05:22 PM   #95 
  - Ah... nice header troll...  ElboRuum   Jun-27-09 02:53 PM   #75 
  - to be clear - are you saying...  lame54   Jun-27-09 03:27 PM   #80 
  - Wow 6 months into his term and he deserves re-election  AllentownJake   Jun-27-09 03:32 PM   #81 
  - How hypocritical  Baltoman991   Jun-27-09 04:10 PM   #89 
     - I never said he has to go,  AllentownJake   Jun-27-09 05:07 PM   #93 
  - Of course Obama will be challenged in the 2012 primary  varelse   Jun-27-09 03:37 PM   #85 
  - is Feingold a sell out if he doesn't challenge him ?  JI7   Jun-27-09 04:19 PM   #90 
  - Some would argue that he would be a sell-out if he DOES challenge him n/t  accuracyman   Jun-27-09 05:48 PM   #101 
  - Primaries strengthen democracy, so let Sharpton have at em  mdmc   Jun-27-09 04:22 PM   #91 
  - There's no point.  Political Heretic   Jun-27-09 05:47 PM   #98 
  - If Kennedy couldn't beat Carter in 1980, no one (Democrat) will ever beat Obama  Hawaii Hiker   Jun-27-09 06:03 PM   #103 
  - Obama will easily win re-nomination.  960   Jun-27-09 06:00 PM   #102 
  - and re-election  AllentownJake   Jun-27-09 07:18 PM   #109 
  - Obama should be challenged in 2012. I'll be there. nt  LWolf   Jun-27-09 06:10 PM   #104 
  - He will be challenged, I assure you...  boppers   Jun-27-09 08:13 PM   #112 
  - I disagree, let someone challenge him  davidpdx   Jun-27-09 08:56 PM   #113 
  - I'm sure Kucinich will run again...nt  S_E_Fudd   Jun-27-09 09:18 PM   #114 
  - Agreed  Proud Liberal Dem   Jun-28-09 12:04 AM   #117 
  - It would be hard to imagine any serious political figure that stupid...But if you say so...  Rowdyboy   Jun-28-09 12:10 AM   #118 
  - We're early into this administration but Obama is very popular.  saltpoint   Jun-28-09 12:16 AM   #119 
  - Yeah, it is fucking ridiculous...  and-justice-for-all   Jun-28-09 06:17 PM   #123 
  - There are always primary challengers... DUH!  demmiblue   Jun-28-09 06:21 PM   #124 
  - .  fujiyama   Jun-29-09 09:31 AM   #127 
  - But but but.... That's not democratic!1!  SIMPLYB1980   Jun-29-09 09:36 AM   #128 
  - I don't think it's time to talk of a challenge at this point  Ken Burch   Jul-01-09 03:56 AM   #130 
 

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