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126. Which is worse is that some people think those who moved quickly are the good guys.
They do not seem to understand those are those who do not want ANY TYPE of public option.

Amazing how some people here are credulous. If these people (Baucus and co) were for a public option, we would not be having this thread, but it is the guy who is for the public option that gets blasted.
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  -Kerry Pushes For Public Option Trigger In Closed-Door Meeting blueclown  Jun-25-09 02:20 PM   #0 
  - Ten-year delay!  LaurenG   Jun-25-09 02:22 PM   #1 
  - They can compromise and make it only 8 years!  Better Believe It   Jun-25-09 02:26 PM   # 
     - Outcome A) Insurance industry continues to suck America's blood without pause  kenny blankenship   Jun-25-09 02:42 PM   #35 
  - Good grief. The people want it, just give it to us NOW. (nt)  w4rma   Jun-25-09 02:23 PM   #2 
  - So Senator Kerry is trying in his own way to kill the public option  Better Believe It   Jun-25-09 02:24 PM   #3 
  - Wrong. Kerry is not killing the public option. He is for it.  beachmom   Jun-25-09 02:46 PM   #41 
     - these knee jerk reactions have passed from pathetic to just plain delusional...  dionysus   Jun-25-09 08:11 PM   #133 
  - Hang on...  DrToast   Jun-25-09 02:24 PM   #4 
  - That was my thinking too  SpartanDem   Jun-25-09 02:29 PM   #16 
  - Kerry was never a liberal.  jgraz   Jun-25-09 02:25 PM   #5 
  - Yeah, it had little impact. That means no public option at all. Why are you happy?  DrToast   Jun-25-09 02:26 PM   #7 
     - Kerry supports a public option trigger.  blueclown   Jun-25-09 02:27 PM   #11 
     - YOU are wrong - Kerry supports public option. Grim found an audience for his outofcontext distortion  blm   Jun-25-09 02:35 PM   #24 
     - A 10 year delay means no public option at all  jgraz   Jun-25-09 02:27 PM   #12 
        - I think you are buying into a deception.  cadmium   Jun-25-09 07:43 PM   #130 
           - Happy I might add  LittleClarkie   Jun-25-09 08:14 PM   #136 
  - THEY'VE HAD SINCE 1994 TO CLEAN UP THEIR ACT.  kenny blankenship   Jun-25-09 02:25 PM   #6 
  - Geez, Kerry's pandering to the right again, just like he did from 2000-2004  Sebastian Doyle   Jun-25-09 02:26 PM   #8 
  - Kerry's for public option - anyone paying attention to this debate KNOWS THAT BY NOW.  blm   Jun-25-09 02:45 PM   #37 
  - No he's not  karynnj   Jun-25-09 04:07 PM   #86 
  - "according to two Democratic Aides"  SunsetDreams   Jun-25-09 02:27 PM   #9 
  - Desperation suggestion. His plan in 2004 was great, and he understands this issue really well.  MarjorieG   Jun-25-09 02:27 PM   #10 
  - Exactly and he doesn't run again until 2014  karynnj   Jun-25-09 04:14 PM   #88 
  - KERRY IS FOR PUBLIC OPTION - this article is GINNED UP.  blm   Jun-25-09 02:28 PM   #13 
  - This thread is a like a bad game of telephone  DrToast   Jun-25-09 02:30 PM   #17 
  - Nah. Let's bash good Dems by buying into whatever the media says  politicasista   Jun-25-09 02:35 PM   #23 
  - It just gets all the  Cha   Jun-25-09 02:36 PM   # 
  - Yep. They do this with  politicasista   Jun-25-09 02:38 PM   #29 
  - That Baucus wouldn't even accept a 10 year trigger tells us more about him than about Kerry  flpoljunkie   Jun-25-09 02:52 PM   #51 
  - People won't even take the time to confirm the story, it's sad  ellacott   Jun-25-09 02:37 PM   #28 
     - Uzzybone had a point  politicasista   Jun-25-09 02:39 PM   #31 
     - This isn't even MSM - it's a rumor story intended to deceive readers about Kerry's position.  blm   Jun-25-09 02:46 PM   #40 
     - Oh. I though HuffPo was one of the top blogs for the MSN  politicasista   Jun-25-09 02:48 PM   #44 
        - John Kerry's stance is not a mystery. He is FOR the public option. nt  beachmom   Jun-25-09 02:49 PM   #45 
           - Thanks. I hear a lot about single payer  politicasista   Jun-25-09 02:51 PM   #49 
              - Only the socialist Senator Sanders supports single payer. No one else. nt  beachmom   Jun-25-09 02:53 PM   #53 
                 - Got ya  politicasista   Jun-25-09 02:59 PM   #57 
     - So true  ellacott   Jun-25-09 03:10 PM   #66 
     - There's a Daily kos post, from a MA resident who called and his office denied it  karynnj   Jun-25-09 04:17 PM   #89 
  - The economy will never recover until something is done about  liberal N proud   Jun-25-09 02:28 PM   #14 
  - Kerry is no liberal. I was very disappointed when he became the  Cleita   Jun-25-09 02:28 PM   #15 
  - He is so a liberal. Huff Po needs better journalistic integrity. nt  beachmom   Jun-25-09 02:37 PM   #27 
  - Cleita you jumped the gun on this distorted claim against Kerry. He's FOR public option  blm   Jun-25-09 02:41 PM   #34 
  - I didn't care for his health plan back then either although it seems that Obama  Cleita   Jun-25-09 02:52 PM   #50 
     - Which would be Howard Dean's 2004 plan  sandnsea   Jun-25-09 03:00 PM   #58 
     - Howard Dean, self-described.  Cleita   Jun-25-09 03:05 PM   #61 
     - far beyond Vietnam, his career in the senate shows most liberal record of ANY 2004 candidate  blm   Jun-25-09 03:08 PM   #64 
     - By your definition, there are NO liberals in teh Democratic party  karynnj   Jun-25-09 04:34 PM   #96 
  - Kerry has a more liberal record than Howard Dean  karynnj   Jun-25-09 04:27 PM   #94 
  - Absolutely Unacceptable...  Still Sensible   Jun-25-09 02:30 PM   #18 
  - This story is highly, highly misleading. John Kerry is for the public option!!!!!  beachmom   Jun-25-09 02:31 PM   #19 
  - John Kerry is for a public option trigger.  blueclown   Jun-25-09 02:32 PM   #21 
  - Do you have proof? were you there at the closed meeting?  SunsetDreams   Jun-25-09 02:36 PM   #25 
  - No, Kerry is for a public option NOW. nt  beachmom   Jun-25-09 02:40 PM   #33 
  - No he's not - he's for public option now  karynnj   Jun-25-09 04:39 PM   #98 
  - Facts never get in the way of a good Kerry bashing on DU n/t  Blaukraut   Jun-25-09 02:34 PM   #22 
  - "The Senators Quickly Moved On"  sandnsea   Jun-25-09 02:32 PM   #20 
  - I would treat the article with skepticism. No press were there. Relying on anonymous sources. nt  beachmom   Jun-25-09 02:38 PM   #30 
  - Which is worse is that some people think those who moved quickly are the good guys.  Mass   Jun-25-09 07:23 PM   #126 
  - How many more will have to DIE?  bvar22   Jun-25-09 02:36 PM   #26 
  - Indeed. Or to paraphrase the senator himself....  Sebastian Doyle   Jun-25-09 02:42 PM   #36 
     - You should know better SebDo... article is intended to smear a strong ADVOCATE for public option  blm   Jun-25-09 02:53 PM   #54 
  - I think this is BS  Oregone   Jun-25-09 02:39 PM   #32 
  - I think it's true, but people are misunderstanding it  SpartanDem   Jun-25-09 02:46 PM   #39 
     - I don't think it was a proposal, though. More like, so what WOULD you support, guys?  beachmom   Jun-25-09 02:50 PM   #47 
     - exactly -and 10 years is exaggerated enough - that it was a  karynnj   Jun-25-09 04:41 PM   #99 
     - Wouldn't a sane person just moon them and leave the meeting?  Oregone   Jun-25-09 02:50 PM   #48 
     - It's beginning to look like whatever "reform" comes out of Finance Committee needs to be DEFEATED.  Faryn Balyncd   Jun-25-09 02:57 PM   #56 
  - Finance Committee Members:  Blaukraut   Jun-25-09 02:46 PM   #38 
  - Yes, he is, unfortunately. nt  beachmom   Jun-25-09 02:48 PM   #43 
  - Well if that group "quickly moved on"  sandnsea   Jun-25-09 02:53 PM   #55 
  - His fax #  wryter2000   Jun-25-09 02:47 PM   #42 
  - I KNOW Kerry's the strongest advocate for public option in those meetings and someone is intent  blm   Jun-25-09 02:49 PM   #46 
  - Too bad there weren't 10 John Kerry's on the committee. Then we would have the public option  beachmom   Jun-25-09 02:53 PM   #52 
     - If there were 10 John Kerry's on the committee, there would be 10 proposals for a trigger. nt  blueclown   Jun-25-09 03:03 PM   #60 
        - according to two anonymous sources and you.  SunsetDreams   Jun-25-09 03:06 PM   #62 
        - You are dead wrong. Who would leak this to the Huff Po? That is the question  beachmom   Jun-25-09 03:08 PM   #63 
        - Not to mention the guy who is most sussessfully defending Obama on his Iran position  karynnj   Jun-25-09 04:50 PM   #101 
        - Says RYAN GRIM and YOU. Grim's article DISTORTS Kerry's position. You stand with distortion.  blm   Jun-25-09 03:12 PM   #69 
        - No there wouldn't  karynnj   Jun-25-09 04:44 PM   #100 
        - No, there would be NONE. Huffpo has already corrected its reporting.  Mass   Jun-25-09 04:54 PM   # 
  - I'm going to bet that this is bullshit. Does the reporter have closed-door meeting access?  zulchzulu   Jun-25-09 03:03 PM   #59 
  - Were you disappointed in any of his pandering to the right from 2000-2004  Sebastian Doyle   Jun-25-09 03:11 PM   #67 
     - Wow. Hey, can you start a "I Hate Kerry" forum and take it there  zulchzulu   Jun-25-09 03:51 PM   #83 
  - ACHTUNG!!! This is a Beltway rumor.  backscatter712   Jun-25-09 03:10 PM   #65 
  - Now that makes two people who have called his office for which the office said it was untrue.  beachmom   Jun-25-09 03:13 PM   #70 
  - You should post that in an original thread - someone is deliberately distorting what was said  blm   Jun-25-09 03:16 PM   #75 
     - agreed  SunsetDreams   Jun-25-09 03:17 PM   #76 
     - I posted one...  backscatter712   Jun-25-09 03:50 PM   #82 
  - Dammit!  CreekDog   Jun-25-09 03:11 PM   #68 
  - actually you can still  SunsetDreams   Jun-25-09 03:16 PM   #74 
  - Kerry bashing is beyond stupid.  TheKentuckian   Jun-25-09 03:13 PM   #71 
  - Not to say a trigger isn't a worthless cop out because it is  TheKentuckian   Jun-25-09 03:15 PM   #73 
  - No. I don't think so Sen. Kerry. A majority of American's have  midnight   Jun-25-09 03:14 PM   #72 
  - So does Kerry. May be you could call those who do not want one.  Mass   Jun-25-09 04:58 PM   #106 
  - Update on the story  mvd   Jun-25-09 03:20 PM   #77 
  - Thanks for the update, this needs its own thread.  SunsetDreams   Jun-25-09 03:21 PM   #78 
  - 2004 showed Kerry is an idiot when it comes to PR and politics  high density   Jun-25-09 03:26 PM   #79 
  - If he was an idiot on PR and politics,  karynnj   Jun-25-09 08:03 PM   #131 
     - I lived through August 2004  high density   Jun-25-09 09:49 PM   #151 
        - Oh, BS  ProSense   Jun-25-09 09:51 PM   #152 
        - Gee I lived through Agust 2004 too  karynnj   Jun-25-09 10:31 PM   #153 
  - Kerry's spokeswoman does not deny the story that Kerry proposed a 10 year trigger.  Better Believe It   Jun-25-09 03:32 PM   #80 
  - Can you read?  zulchzulu   Jun-25-09 03:58 PM   #85 
  - Senator Kerry's spokeswoman didn't deny that he suggested a 10 year trigger so what's your point?  Better Believe It   Jun-25-09 04:23 PM   #92 
     - How are those "giant letters" anything other than a denial?  rockymountaindem   Jun-25-09 05:03 PM   #108 
  - He did NOT PROPOSE a 10 year trigger. All he did was ask people  beachmom   Jun-25-09 04:57 PM   #105 
  - Thanks for the update. I'll believe Kerry over a "former Politico" writer...  zulchzulu   Jun-25-09 03:55 PM   #84 
  - Can we close the threads and put up the Update? This lie is running rampant and  blm   Jun-25-09 05:57 PM   #114 
     - Hi, someone posted another thread  mvd   Jun-25-09 07:01 PM   #125 
     - And, those who want to get sucked  Cha   Jun-25-09 08:15 PM   #138 
  - I do not believe it...typical unsourced BS story  Uzybone   Jun-25-09 03:42 PM   #81 
  - This story is a smear.  grantcart   Jun-25-09 04:19 PM   #90 
  - LMAO. As I said. Obama the only one out there pushing the public Option  Thrill   Jun-25-09 04:09 PM   #87 
  - Can anybody provide some level of proof, beside 2 unmamed Democratic staffers  Mass   Jun-25-09 04:19 PM   #91 
  - Yes. Kerry's spokeswoman didn't deny the trigger statement in an official release  Better Believe It   Jun-25-09 04:31 PM   #95 
     - You are full of it!!!! Most Senators are OPPOSED to the public option.  beachmom   Jun-25-09 04:59 PM   #107 
  - I'm not surprised.  redqueen   Jun-25-09 04:25 PM   #93 
  - Perhaps Senator Kerry should have attended todays Capital Hill rally for a public option.  Better Believe It   Jun-25-09 04:36 PM   #97 
  - So, you would prefer that he not attend the meeting  karynnj   Jun-25-09 10:59 PM   #154 
  - What Kerry actually said (Huffo corrected its story)  Mass   Jun-25-09 04:50 PM   #102 
  - Thanks Mass  karynnj   Jun-25-09 04:54 PM   #103 
  - THIS POST IS NOT SUBSTANTIATED WITH ANY PROOF YET SOME FIND IT ALRIGHT TO ATTACK A GOOD DEM.  wisteria   Jun-25-09 04:54 PM   #104 
  - Kerry or his spokeswoman could deny it. They haven't so far.  Better Believe It   Jun-25-09 05:11 PM   #109 
  - Click on the link. Huffpo has already changed their story to something else.  Mass   Jun-25-09 05:18 PM   #110 
  - Evidently, there are suckers born every minute. n/t  ProSense   Jun-25-09 06:08 PM   #116 
  - Actually they did  LittleClarkie   Jun-25-09 06:10 PM   #117 
  - Just poor reporting from Huffpo, who is trying to emulate the low quality reporting from  Mass   Jun-25-09 05:22 PM   #111 
  - I don't think you get the idea of a DISCUSSION  Hippo_Tron   Jun-25-09 05:29 PM   #112 
  - What the hell is Kerry thinking?  Arkana   Jun-25-09 05:41 PM   #113 
  - His office says he is for the public option, and that his position hasn't changed  LittleClarkie   Jun-25-09 06:05 PM   #115 
     - Do you have a link for that? Kerry's spokeswoman didn't deny the trigger story.  Better Believe It   Jun-25-09 06:28 PM   #118 
     - If you really want to know you can call his office yourself  LittleClarkie   Jun-25-09 06:34 PM   #119 
     - I believe Kerry's spokeswoman. She's not denying the media story!  Better Believe It   Jun-25-09 06:46 PM   #121 
     - BULLSHIT! Asking senators OPPOSED to public option IF they'd consider putting it in the bill  blm   Jun-25-09 06:42 PM   #120 
        - Dude, I gotta tell you--I wish I was as good at defending Kerry's record  Arkana   Jun-25-09 06:52 PM   #123 
     - OK, all right.  Arkana   Jun-25-09 06:51 PM   #122 
  - This story is untrue. I demand a thread that says that  TayTay   Jun-25-09 06:58 PM   #124 
  - But Senator Kerry's spokeswoman doesn't claim the story is untrue  Better Believe It   Jun-25-09 08:07 PM   #132 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-25-09 08:15 PM   #137 
     - Oh BS  ProSense   Jun-25-09 09:14 PM   #148 
  - BOGUS STORY  cadmium   Jun-25-09 07:36 PM   #127 
  - Shh, don't ruin their fun  LittleClarkie   Jun-25-09 07:38 PM   #128 
  - But your response has nothing to do with the news story claims regarding a trigger.  Better Believe It   Jun-25-09 08:12 PM   #135 
     - Perhaps you should read the story  TayTay   Jun-25-09 08:17 PM   #139 
     - Your posts are suspect. Maybe you should go  ProSense   Jun-25-09 08:41 PM   #140 
     - "suspect"? that's a euphemism if ever i saw one...  dionysus   Jun-25-09 08:57 PM   #143 
     - The deceptive headline is  cadmium   Jun-25-09 08:44 PM   #141 
     - your fails grow bigger and bigger each OP you post.  dionysus   Jun-25-09 08:55 PM   #142 
  - You're calling for a primary challenge to Kerry in 2010?  ProSense   Jun-25-09 07:42 PM   #129 
  - So do I.  LittleClarkie   Jun-25-09 08:12 PM   #134 
  - It's especially humorous since he's not up for reelection until 2014 n/t  rockymountaindem   Jun-25-09 09:10 PM   #147 
  - When does Kerry come up for reelection?  emsimon33   Jun-25-09 09:00 PM   #144 
  - Did you read the OP? It states 2010, but it's actually 2014, Until then  ProSense   Jun-25-09 09:03 PM   #146 
     - Though if the op and his friends spend there energy lobbying for a challenge in 2010  karynnj   Jun-25-09 11:05 PM   #155 
  - No retraction by the OP or others in this thread?  politicasista   Jun-25-09 09:03 PM   #145 
     - How could there be if Senator Kerry hasn't challenged the news story?  Better Believe It   Jun-25-09 09:19 PM   #149 
        - Right wing traits.  ProSense   Jun-25-09 09:35 PM   #150 
 

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