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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 04:25 PM
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93. I'm not surprised.
Wish I was.

I don't trust any of them... except for Sanders.
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  -Kerry Pushes For Public Option Trigger In Closed-Door Meeting blueclown  Jun-25-09 02:20 PM   #0 
  - Ten-year delay!  LaurenG   Jun-25-09 02:22 PM   #1 
  - They can compromise and make it only 8 years!  Better Believe It   Jun-25-09 02:26 PM   # 
     - Outcome A) Insurance industry continues to suck America's blood without pause  kenny blankenship   Jun-25-09 02:42 PM   #35 
  - Good grief. The people want it, just give it to us NOW. (nt)  w4rma   Jun-25-09 02:23 PM   #2 
  - So Senator Kerry is trying in his own way to kill the public option  Better Believe It   Jun-25-09 02:24 PM   #3 
  - Wrong. Kerry is not killing the public option. He is for it.  beachmom   Jun-25-09 02:46 PM   #41 
     - these knee jerk reactions have passed from pathetic to just plain delusional...  dionysus   Jun-25-09 08:11 PM   #133 
  - Hang on...  DrToast   Jun-25-09 02:24 PM   #4 
  - That was my thinking too  SpartanDem   Jun-25-09 02:29 PM   #16 
  - Kerry was never a liberal.  jgraz   Jun-25-09 02:25 PM   #5 
  - Yeah, it had little impact. That means no public option at all. Why are you happy?  DrToast   Jun-25-09 02:26 PM   #7 
     - Kerry supports a public option trigger.  blueclown   Jun-25-09 02:27 PM   #11 
     - YOU are wrong - Kerry supports public option. Grim found an audience for his outofcontext distortion  blm   Jun-25-09 02:35 PM   #24 
     - A 10 year delay means no public option at all  jgraz   Jun-25-09 02:27 PM   #12 
        - I think you are buying into a deception.  cadmium   Jun-25-09 07:43 PM   #130 
           - Happy I might add  LittleClarkie   Jun-25-09 08:14 PM   #136 
  - THEY'VE HAD SINCE 1994 TO CLEAN UP THEIR ACT.  kenny blankenship   Jun-25-09 02:25 PM   #6 
  - Geez, Kerry's pandering to the right again, just like he did from 2000-2004  Sebastian Doyle   Jun-25-09 02:26 PM   #8 
  - Kerry's for public option - anyone paying attention to this debate KNOWS THAT BY NOW.  blm   Jun-25-09 02:45 PM   #37 
  - No he's not  karynnj   Jun-25-09 04:07 PM   #86 
  - "according to two Democratic Aides"  SunsetDreams   Jun-25-09 02:27 PM   #9 
  - Desperation suggestion. His plan in 2004 was great, and he understands this issue really well.  MarjorieG   Jun-25-09 02:27 PM   #10 
  - Exactly and he doesn't run again until 2014  karynnj   Jun-25-09 04:14 PM   #88 
  - KERRY IS FOR PUBLIC OPTION - this article is GINNED UP.  blm   Jun-25-09 02:28 PM   #13 
  - This thread is a like a bad game of telephone  DrToast   Jun-25-09 02:30 PM   #17 
  - Nah. Let's bash good Dems by buying into whatever the media says  politicasista   Jun-25-09 02:35 PM   #23 
  - It just gets all the  Cha   Jun-25-09 02:36 PM   # 
  - Yep. They do this with  politicasista   Jun-25-09 02:38 PM   #29 
  - That Baucus wouldn't even accept a 10 year trigger tells us more about him than about Kerry  flpoljunkie   Jun-25-09 02:52 PM   #51 
  - People won't even take the time to confirm the story, it's sad  ellacott   Jun-25-09 02:37 PM   #28 
     - Uzzybone had a point  politicasista   Jun-25-09 02:39 PM   #31 
     - This isn't even MSM - it's a rumor story intended to deceive readers about Kerry's position.  blm   Jun-25-09 02:46 PM   #40 
     - Oh. I though HuffPo was one of the top blogs for the MSN  politicasista   Jun-25-09 02:48 PM   #44 
        - John Kerry's stance is not a mystery. He is FOR the public option. nt  beachmom   Jun-25-09 02:49 PM   #45 
           - Thanks. I hear a lot about single payer  politicasista   Jun-25-09 02:51 PM   #49 
              - Only the socialist Senator Sanders supports single payer. No one else. nt  beachmom   Jun-25-09 02:53 PM   #53 
                 - Got ya  politicasista   Jun-25-09 02:59 PM   #57 
     - So true  ellacott   Jun-25-09 03:10 PM   #66 
     - There's a Daily kos post, from a MA resident who called and his office denied it  karynnj   Jun-25-09 04:17 PM   #89 
  - The economy will never recover until something is done about  liberal N proud   Jun-25-09 02:28 PM   #14 
  - Kerry is no liberal. I was very disappointed when he became the  Cleita   Jun-25-09 02:28 PM   #15 
  - He is so a liberal. Huff Po needs better journalistic integrity. nt  beachmom   Jun-25-09 02:37 PM   #27 
  - Cleita you jumped the gun on this distorted claim against Kerry. He's FOR public option  blm   Jun-25-09 02:41 PM   #34 
  - I didn't care for his health plan back then either although it seems that Obama  Cleita   Jun-25-09 02:52 PM   #50 
     - Which would be Howard Dean's 2004 plan  sandnsea   Jun-25-09 03:00 PM   #58 
     - Howard Dean, self-described.  Cleita   Jun-25-09 03:05 PM   #61 
     - far beyond Vietnam, his career in the senate shows most liberal record of ANY 2004 candidate  blm   Jun-25-09 03:08 PM   #64 
     - By your definition, there are NO liberals in teh Democratic party  karynnj   Jun-25-09 04:34 PM   #96 
  - Kerry has a more liberal record than Howard Dean  karynnj   Jun-25-09 04:27 PM   #94 
  - Absolutely Unacceptable...  Still Sensible   Jun-25-09 02:30 PM   #18 
  - This story is highly, highly misleading. John Kerry is for the public option!!!!!  beachmom   Jun-25-09 02:31 PM   #19 
  - John Kerry is for a public option trigger.  blueclown   Jun-25-09 02:32 PM   #21 
  - Do you have proof? were you there at the closed meeting?  SunsetDreams   Jun-25-09 02:36 PM   #25 
  - No, Kerry is for a public option NOW. nt  beachmom   Jun-25-09 02:40 PM   #33 
  - No he's not - he's for public option now  karynnj   Jun-25-09 04:39 PM   #98 
  - Facts never get in the way of a good Kerry bashing on DU n/t  Blaukraut   Jun-25-09 02:34 PM   #22 
  - "The Senators Quickly Moved On"  sandnsea   Jun-25-09 02:32 PM   #20 
  - I would treat the article with skepticism. No press were there. Relying on anonymous sources. nt  beachmom   Jun-25-09 02:38 PM   #30 
  - Which is worse is that some people think those who moved quickly are the good guys.  Mass   Jun-25-09 07:23 PM   #126 
  - How many more will have to DIE?  bvar22   Jun-25-09 02:36 PM   #26 
  - Indeed. Or to paraphrase the senator himself....  Sebastian Doyle   Jun-25-09 02:42 PM   #36 
     - You should know better SebDo... article is intended to smear a strong ADVOCATE for public option  blm   Jun-25-09 02:53 PM   #54 
  - I think this is BS  Oregone   Jun-25-09 02:39 PM   #32 
  - I think it's true, but people are misunderstanding it  SpartanDem   Jun-25-09 02:46 PM   #39 
     - I don't think it was a proposal, though. More like, so what WOULD you support, guys?  beachmom   Jun-25-09 02:50 PM   #47 
     - exactly -and 10 years is exaggerated enough - that it was a  karynnj   Jun-25-09 04:41 PM   #99 
     - Wouldn't a sane person just moon them and leave the meeting?  Oregone   Jun-25-09 02:50 PM   #48 
     - It's beginning to look like whatever "reform" comes out of Finance Committee needs to be DEFEATED.  Faryn Balyncd   Jun-25-09 02:57 PM   #56 
  - Finance Committee Members:  Blaukraut   Jun-25-09 02:46 PM   #38 
  - Yes, he is, unfortunately. nt  beachmom   Jun-25-09 02:48 PM   #43 
  - Well if that group "quickly moved on"  sandnsea   Jun-25-09 02:53 PM   #55 
  - His fax #  wryter2000   Jun-25-09 02:47 PM   #42 
  - I KNOW Kerry's the strongest advocate for public option in those meetings and someone is intent  blm   Jun-25-09 02:49 PM   #46 
  - Too bad there weren't 10 John Kerry's on the committee. Then we would have the public option  beachmom   Jun-25-09 02:53 PM   #52 
     - If there were 10 John Kerry's on the committee, there would be 10 proposals for a trigger. nt  blueclown   Jun-25-09 03:03 PM   #60 
        - according to two anonymous sources and you.  SunsetDreams   Jun-25-09 03:06 PM   #62 
        - You are dead wrong. Who would leak this to the Huff Po? That is the question  beachmom   Jun-25-09 03:08 PM   #63 
        - Not to mention the guy who is most sussessfully defending Obama on his Iran position  karynnj   Jun-25-09 04:50 PM   #101 
        - Says RYAN GRIM and YOU. Grim's article DISTORTS Kerry's position. You stand with distortion.  blm   Jun-25-09 03:12 PM   #69 
        - No there wouldn't  karynnj   Jun-25-09 04:44 PM   #100 
        - No, there would be NONE. Huffpo has already corrected its reporting.  Mass   Jun-25-09 04:54 PM   # 
  - I'm going to bet that this is bullshit. Does the reporter have closed-door meeting access?  zulchzulu   Jun-25-09 03:03 PM   #59 
  - Were you disappointed in any of his pandering to the right from 2000-2004  Sebastian Doyle   Jun-25-09 03:11 PM   #67 
     - Wow. Hey, can you start a "I Hate Kerry" forum and take it there  zulchzulu   Jun-25-09 03:51 PM   #83 
  - ACHTUNG!!! This is a Beltway rumor.  backscatter712   Jun-25-09 03:10 PM   #65 
  - Now that makes two people who have called his office for which the office said it was untrue.  beachmom   Jun-25-09 03:13 PM   #70 
  - You should post that in an original thread - someone is deliberately distorting what was said  blm   Jun-25-09 03:16 PM   #75 
     - agreed  SunsetDreams   Jun-25-09 03:17 PM   #76 
     - I posted one...  backscatter712   Jun-25-09 03:50 PM   #82 
  - Dammit!  CreekDog   Jun-25-09 03:11 PM   #68 
  - actually you can still  SunsetDreams   Jun-25-09 03:16 PM   #74 
  - Kerry bashing is beyond stupid.  TheKentuckian   Jun-25-09 03:13 PM   #71 
  - Not to say a trigger isn't a worthless cop out because it is  TheKentuckian   Jun-25-09 03:15 PM   #73 
  - No. I don't think so Sen. Kerry. A majority of American's have  midnight   Jun-25-09 03:14 PM   #72 
  - So does Kerry. May be you could call those who do not want one.  Mass   Jun-25-09 04:58 PM   #106 
  - Update on the story  mvd   Jun-25-09 03:20 PM   #77 
  - Thanks for the update, this needs its own thread.  SunsetDreams   Jun-25-09 03:21 PM   #78 
  - 2004 showed Kerry is an idiot when it comes to PR and politics  high density   Jun-25-09 03:26 PM   #79 
  - If he was an idiot on PR and politics,  karynnj   Jun-25-09 08:03 PM   #131 
     - I lived through August 2004  high density   Jun-25-09 09:49 PM   #151 
        - Oh, BS  ProSense   Jun-25-09 09:51 PM   #152 
        - Gee I lived through Agust 2004 too  karynnj   Jun-25-09 10:31 PM   #153 
  - Kerry's spokeswoman does not deny the story that Kerry proposed a 10 year trigger.  Better Believe It   Jun-25-09 03:32 PM   #80 
  - Can you read?  zulchzulu   Jun-25-09 03:58 PM   #85 
  - Senator Kerry's spokeswoman didn't deny that he suggested a 10 year trigger so what's your point?  Better Believe It   Jun-25-09 04:23 PM   #92 
     - How are those "giant letters" anything other than a denial?  rockymountaindem   Jun-25-09 05:03 PM   #108 
  - He did NOT PROPOSE a 10 year trigger. All he did was ask people  beachmom   Jun-25-09 04:57 PM   #105 
  - Thanks for the update. I'll believe Kerry over a "former Politico" writer...  zulchzulu   Jun-25-09 03:55 PM   #84 
  - Can we close the threads and put up the Update? This lie is running rampant and  blm   Jun-25-09 05:57 PM   #114 
     - Hi, someone posted another thread  mvd   Jun-25-09 07:01 PM   #125 
     - And, those who want to get sucked  Cha   Jun-25-09 08:15 PM   #138 
  - I do not believe it...typical unsourced BS story  Uzybone   Jun-25-09 03:42 PM   #81 
  - This story is a smear.  grantcart   Jun-25-09 04:19 PM   #90 
  - LMAO. As I said. Obama the only one out there pushing the public Option  Thrill   Jun-25-09 04:09 PM   #87 
  - Can anybody provide some level of proof, beside 2 unmamed Democratic staffers  Mass   Jun-25-09 04:19 PM   #91 
  - Yes. Kerry's spokeswoman didn't deny the trigger statement in an official release  Better Believe It   Jun-25-09 04:31 PM   #95 
     - You are full of it!!!! Most Senators are OPPOSED to the public option.  beachmom   Jun-25-09 04:59 PM   #107 
  - I'm not surprised.  redqueen   Jun-25-09 04:25 PM   #93 
  - Perhaps Senator Kerry should have attended todays Capital Hill rally for a public option.  Better Believe It   Jun-25-09 04:36 PM   #97 
  - So, you would prefer that he not attend the meeting  karynnj   Jun-25-09 10:59 PM   #154 
  - What Kerry actually said (Huffo corrected its story)  Mass   Jun-25-09 04:50 PM   #102 
  - Thanks Mass  karynnj   Jun-25-09 04:54 PM   #103 
  - Kerry or his spokeswoman could deny it. They haven't so far.  Better Believe It   Jun-25-09 05:11 PM   #109 
  - Click on the link. Huffpo has already changed their story to something else.  Mass   Jun-25-09 05:18 PM   #110 
  - Evidently, there are suckers born every minute. n/t  ProSense   Jun-25-09 06:08 PM   #116 
  - Actually they did  LittleClarkie   Jun-25-09 06:10 PM   #117 
  - Just poor reporting from Huffpo, who is trying to emulate the low quality reporting from  Mass   Jun-25-09 05:22 PM   #111 
  - I don't think you get the idea of a DISCUSSION  Hippo_Tron   Jun-25-09 05:29 PM   #112 
  - What the hell is Kerry thinking?  Arkana   Jun-25-09 05:41 PM   #113 
  - His office says he is for the public option, and that his position hasn't changed  LittleClarkie   Jun-25-09 06:05 PM   #115 
     - Do you have a link for that? Kerry's spokeswoman didn't deny the trigger story.  Better Believe It   Jun-25-09 06:28 PM   #118 
     - If you really want to know you can call his office yourself  LittleClarkie   Jun-25-09 06:34 PM   #119 
     - I believe Kerry's spokeswoman. She's not denying the media story!  Better Believe It   Jun-25-09 06:46 PM   #121 
     - BULLSHIT! Asking senators OPPOSED to public option IF they'd consider putting it in the bill  blm   Jun-25-09 06:42 PM   #120 
        - Dude, I gotta tell you--I wish I was as good at defending Kerry's record  Arkana   Jun-25-09 06:52 PM   #123 
     - OK, all right.  Arkana   Jun-25-09 06:51 PM   #122 
  - This story is untrue. I demand a thread that says that  TayTay   Jun-25-09 06:58 PM   #124 
  - But Senator Kerry's spokeswoman doesn't claim the story is untrue  Better Believe It   Jun-25-09 08:07 PM   #132 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-25-09 08:15 PM   #137 
     - Oh BS  ProSense   Jun-25-09 09:14 PM   #148 
  - BOGUS STORY  cadmium   Jun-25-09 07:36 PM   #127 
  - Shh, don't ruin their fun  LittleClarkie   Jun-25-09 07:38 PM   #128 
  - But your response has nothing to do with the news story claims regarding a trigger.  Better Believe It   Jun-25-09 08:12 PM   #135 
     - Perhaps you should read the story  TayTay   Jun-25-09 08:17 PM   #139 
     - Your posts are suspect. Maybe you should go  ProSense   Jun-25-09 08:41 PM   #140 
     - "suspect"? that's a euphemism if ever i saw one...  dionysus   Jun-25-09 08:57 PM   #143 
     - The deceptive headline is  cadmium   Jun-25-09 08:44 PM   #141 
     - your fails grow bigger and bigger each OP you post.  dionysus   Jun-25-09 08:55 PM   #142 
  - You're calling for a primary challenge to Kerry in 2010?  ProSense   Jun-25-09 07:42 PM   #129 
  - So do I.  LittleClarkie   Jun-25-09 08:12 PM   #134 
  - It's especially humorous since he's not up for reelection until 2014 n/t  rockymountaindem   Jun-25-09 09:10 PM   #147 
  - When does Kerry come up for reelection?  emsimon33   Jun-25-09 09:00 PM   #144 
  - Did you read the OP? It states 2010, but it's actually 2014, Until then  ProSense   Jun-25-09 09:03 PM   #146 
     - Though if the op and his friends spend there energy lobbying for a challenge in 2010  karynnj   Jun-25-09 11:05 PM   #155 
  - No retraction by the OP or others in this thread?  politicasista   Jun-25-09 09:03 PM   #145 
     - How could there be if Senator Kerry hasn't challenged the news story?  Better Believe It   Jun-25-09 09:19 PM   #149 
        - Right wing traits.  ProSense   Jun-25-09 09:35 PM   #150 

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