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Wed Jun-24-09 09:27 PM
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this place is fucking pathetic.
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| -Helen Thomas to Obama: If you see the importance of Neda video, why won't you release abuse photos? |
Sweet and Spicy |
Jun-24-09 09:35 AM |
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Answer is obvious. |
Occam Bandage |
Jun-24-09 09:36 AM |
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+1. n/t |
vaberella |
Jun-24-09 09:38 AM |
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+2! n/t |
Boomerang Diddle |
Jun-24-09 02:50 PM |
#58 |
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yep, that covers it completely. |
wyldwolf |
Jun-24-09 10:03 AM |
#19 |
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That's right. We've seen how the Neda pics have inflamed people |
Political Tiger |
Jun-24-09 01:16 PM |
#53 |
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Are you confused by the similarity in names between Iran and Iraq? |
tavalon |
Jun-25-09 04:09 AM |
#135 |
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Some people are culpable for their actions and others aren't.. Duh. nt |
Umbral |
Jun-24-09 06:50 PM |
#85 |
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A 21 year old kid shouldn't have to die because of what Cheney/Bush |
ecstatic |
Jun-24-09 07:15 PM |
#90 |
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What if the protesters kill innocent Iranian soldiers in retaliation? |
Sweet and Spicy |
Jun-24-09 09:14 PM |
#107 |
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So let me see if I have... |
SkyIsGrey |
Jun-24-09 07:15 PM |
#91 |
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If you want to see those kinds of pictures - go to the library... |
Butch350 |
Jun-24-09 08:07 PM |
#100 |
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So the Iranian government should oppress any photos or video? |
SkyIsGrey |
Jun-24-09 08:43 PM |
#103 |
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I will eloquently put it this way. |
Butch350 |
Jun-24-09 09:42 PM |
#110 |
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Butch350, that was not eloquent. It was just plain inaccurate. One form of torture |
bertman |
Jun-24-09 11:35 PM |
#125 |
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That you have a picture of Neda as your avatar |
tavalon |
Jun-25-09 04:17 AM |
#137 |
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Front Page. |
SkyIsGrey |
Jun-25-09 05:23 AM |
#153 |
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Bullshit... |
quickesst |
Jun-25-09 05:35 AM |
#154 |
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Jun-24-09 09:20 PM |
#108 |
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+1! n/t |
JohnnyK |
Jun-24-09 11:25 PM |
#123 |
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Well Said... Frylock! n/t |
ChiciB1 |
Jun-24-09 11:30 PM |
#124 |
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A little over the top, but I agree with some parts of your post. |
liquid diamond |
Jun-24-09 09:52 PM |
#112 |
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Except that the average idiot American will be forced to confront |
tavalon |
Jun-25-09 04:21 AM |
#138 |
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Good point! I have hard enough time getting them out of my mind. |
Alameda |
Jun-24-09 10:35 PM |
#115 |
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really? that's just weird |
fascisthunter |
Jun-25-09 08:57 AM |
#157 |
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What the fuck is wrong with you. |
girl gone mad |
Jun-24-09 10:46 PM |
#122 |
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Sophistry at it's worst |
fascisthunter |
Jun-25-09 09:00 AM |
#159 |
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dupe |
fascisthunter |
Jun-25-09 09:00 AM |
#160 |
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You seem to be suffering from a logical disconnect... |
Stand and Fight |
Jun-25-09 12:41 AM |
#128 |
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Do you think we actually are looking forward to seeing the pictures? |
tavalon |
Jun-25-09 04:14 AM |
#136 |
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Way to miss the point completely |
spiritual_gunfighter |
Jun-25-09 05:03 AM |
#150 |
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So you don't think the German people should |
truth2power |
Jun-25-09 09:50 AM |
#164 |
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such easy answers |
mdmc |
Jun-24-09 09:45 PM |
#111 |
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With that statement, you ruin your credibility. |
LittleBlue |
Jun-25-09 04:06 AM |
#134 |
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Obama is the President of the United States it's his job to act in the nation's self-interest |
Hippo_Tron |
Jun-25-09 04:56 PM |
#178 |
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Big kick for Helen |
Autumn |
Jun-24-09 09:36 AM |
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Jun-24-09 11:25 AM |
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You don't have to like her |
Autumn |
Jun-24-09 11:35 AM |
#39 |
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I thought she was brilliant to insert a cogent question at that moment |
lunatica |
Jun-24-09 06:14 PM |
#81 |
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What a loathsome thing to say - even "metaphorically." |
Peregrine Took |
Jun-24-09 06:46 PM |
#84 |
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Jun-25-09 07:38 AM |
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How are the two issues related? n/t |
vaberella |
Jun-24-09 09:36 AM |
#3 |
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Citizens seeing injustice by police or soldiers, |
Eric J in MN |
Jun-24-09 10:18 AM |
#24 |
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See my post #42 |
Forkboy |
Jun-24-09 11:48 AM |
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It's censorship plain and simple |
Liberation Angel |
Jun-24-09 06:58 PM |
#86 |
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K&R |
invictus |
Jun-24-09 09:37 AM |
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Dumb question |
BeyondGeography |
Jun-24-09 09:38 AM |
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If US forces killed a Neda in New Jersey, would Obama attempt to supress the video? |
Sweet and Spicy |
Jun-24-09 09:40 AM |
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I assume not. |
Occam Bandage |
Jun-24-09 09:47 AM |
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Why do you "assume not," if you don't think it could ever happen? |
Sweet and Spicy |
Jun-24-09 09:49 AM |
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Because the likely response is not related to the practicality of the hypothetical. |
Occam Bandage |
Jun-24-09 09:57 AM |
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A hypothetical question needs not contain a likely scenario |
Sweet and Spicy |
Jun-24-09 10:07 AM |
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Yes, that's what I just said. The practicality is unrelated to the answer. |
Occam Bandage |
Jun-24-09 10:15 AM |
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So your answer was "I assume not." as far as I can tell, |
tavalon |
Jun-25-09 04:31 AM |
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Occam Bandage, you are making a huge assumption in your first paragraph. There are |
bertman |
Jun-24-09 05:28 PM |
#77 |
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None dare call it genocide. |
asteroid2003QQ47 |
Jun-24-09 06:41 PM |
#83 |
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I have never seen so many posts on a single OP |
tavalon |
Jun-25-09 04:29 AM |
#139 |
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How's Obama suppressing the video in that scenario unless the Feds are there shooting it themselves? |
high density |
Jun-24-09 09:53 AM |
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So torture at Gitmo by USA is somehow related to Iran shooting people in the street? |
high density |
Jun-24-09 09:46 AM |
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just simplify to clarify: |
mikelgb |
Jun-24-09 10:00 AM |
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Except... |
high density |
Jun-24-09 11:08 AM |
#34 |
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That's what I couldn't get either. n/t |
vaberella |
Jun-24-09 10:02 AM |
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Pictures and pictures |
tavalon |
Jun-25-09 04:35 AM |
#141 |
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Release photos of Timmy McVeigh's death shroud while we're at it |
zulchzulu |
Jun-24-09 09:50 AM |
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Timothy McVeigh was legally killed |
Sweet and Spicy |
Jun-24-09 09:52 AM |
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Neda was as well. nt |
Occam Bandage |
Jun-24-09 09:59 AM |
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Explain the law that resulted in the death of Neda n/t |
Sweet and Spicy |
Jun-24-09 10:02 AM |
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Iran does not have the same system of comprehensive legal protections America does. |
Occam Bandage |
Jun-24-09 10:14 AM |
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No, but they do have universal healthcare |
Oregone |
Jun-24-09 10:36 AM |
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But can't we see the pictures? Huh? Huh? Huh? |
zulchzulu |
Jun-24-09 11:50 AM |
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There's a reason they're laughing condescendingly. I fear Helen's heyday.. |
Tarheel_Dem |
Jun-24-09 10:15 AM |
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Well, Helen has a history of being petty |
Oregone |
Jun-24-09 10:21 AM |
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No, Helen has a selective memory. I'm still waiting for her hitpiece on |
Tarheel_Dem |
Jun-24-09 10:57 AM |
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Oh Boy, So Helen's "Big Crime" Was Supporting Hillary? |
Dinger |
Jun-24-09 05:13 PM |
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Nope. Helen's big crime is intellectual dishonesty. She threw her full support |
Tarheel_Dem |
Jun-24-09 10:34 PM |
#114 |
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I don't agree but your questions are definitely legitimate ones |
Swagman |
Jun-24-09 10:41 PM |
#119 |
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Get over the primaries & take your blinders off. Not much has changed and Helen is pointing it out. |
earth mom |
Jun-24-09 07:07 PM |
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I see you as not getting over the primaries either. Guess you two are even. |
Forkboy |
Jun-24-09 11:20 AM |
#36 |
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Helen Thomas supported Obama against McCain |
Sweet and Spicy |
Jun-24-09 11:36 AM |
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You take a journalist doing her job as an assault on the President? |
tavalon |
Jun-25-09 04:38 AM |
#142 |
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If you see the importance of Neda video, why do *we* keep killing Iraqis |
Oregone |
Jun-24-09 10:20 AM |
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Dancing around the truth, what a surprise. |
Metta |
Jun-24-09 10:21 AM |
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Oh dear. It appears it is time for Helen to retire as her mind is deteriorating. |
GarbagemanLB |
Jun-24-09 10:24 AM |
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Is Greenwald's mind deteriorating too? |
Sweet and Spicy |
Jun-24-09 11:34 AM |
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Glen Greenwald? |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Jun-24-09 11:38 AM |
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That funny, because Obama reads Greenwald every day |
Sweet and Spicy |
Jun-24-09 11:50 AM |
#44 |
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Is releasing the torture photos worth another uprising in Iraq? |
ericgtr |
Jun-24-09 10:26 AM |
#29 |
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Its their country |
Oregone |
Jun-24-09 10:32 AM |
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""Experts see no clear link between the Abu Ghraib and military deaths" |
Sweet and Spicy |
Jun-24-09 11:53 AM |
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You think the Iraqis don't already know what went on? |
dflprincess |
Jun-24-09 08:49 PM |
#104 |
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Point? |
tavalon |
Jun-25-09 04:41 AM |
#143 |
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Go, Helen, go! |
Vidar |
Jun-24-09 10:54 AM |
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+1 |
emilyg |
Jun-24-09 01:03 PM |
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I don't see the connection. |
AtomicKitten |
Jun-24-09 11:18 AM |
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Actually, it does, though I agree it needs some more context. |
Forkboy |
Jun-24-09 11:44 AM |
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Neda's murder was captured and sent out virtually real-time. |
AtomicKitten |
Jun-24-09 11:59 AM |
#47 |
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He snubbed her |
Politicalboi |
Jun-24-09 12:08 PM |
#48 |
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The question she blurted out, interrupting him? |
Clio the Leo |
Jun-24-09 12:49 PM |
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Oooh, the people dared to interrupt the President! How rude of the vox populi! |
WinkyDink |
Jun-24-09 02:50 PM |
#57 |
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Nope and SHE is not God's gift to the White House .... |
Clio the Leo |
Jun-24-09 02:55 PM |
#61 |
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Helen is certainly not God's Gift to the White House.... |
bvar22 |
Jun-24-09 03:34 PM |
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But you NEVER heard applause coming from me.... |
Clio the Leo |
Jun-24-09 03:56 PM |
#68 |
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Just heard on Thom Hartmann: |
bvar22 |
Jun-24-09 05:11 PM |
#74 |
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Are you speaking of press briefings or.... |
Clio the Leo |
Jun-24-09 05:32 PM |
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No, they don't "prescreen" the questions. Whoever you heard on Hartman is incorrect. |
FailureToCommunicate |
Jun-24-09 07:48 PM |
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That was long before you showed up here, my dear. |
QC |
Jun-25-09 09:01 AM |
#161 |
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Best post yet! |
dgibby |
Jun-25-09 10:26 AM |
#166 |
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Short and sweet. Nailed it. |
Jakes Progress |
Jun-25-09 11:20 AM |
#169 |
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Yep, the Obama administration is afraid millions here will rise up just like they did in Iran. |
earth mom |
Jun-24-09 07:10 PM |
#89 |
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That's exactly what I was going to say about Helen. (eom) |
dflprincess |
Jun-24-09 08:52 PM |
#105 |
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Spot on! |
spoony |
Jun-24-09 10:36 PM |
#117 |
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This place reeks of hypocrisy from all quarters. |
Stand and Fight |
Jun-25-09 12:56 AM |
#131 |
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Yeah, I'm pretty mortified by the hypocrisy of late |
tavalon |
Jun-25-09 04:49 AM |
#145 |
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I remember this |
Eric_323 |
Jun-25-09 10:33 AM |
#167 |
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It used to be, in the day of real journalism, that people did sometimes blurt out questions |
tavalon |
Jun-25-09 04:44 AM |
#144 |
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I'm wondering if this was the first press conference some people here have seen. |
QC |
Jun-25-09 04:58 PM |
#179 |
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go Helen! |
JustinL |
Jun-24-09 12:35 PM |
#49 |
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Apples and oranges. n/t |
Political Tiger |
Jun-24-09 01:13 PM |
#52 |
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Maybe so as to not inflame those in Iran so they CAN turn against a radical regime |
Jennicut |
Jun-24-09 01:18 PM |
#54 |
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Obama has said he wants to release them later as well. n/t |
vaberella |
Jun-24-09 02:54 PM |
#60 |
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Prove it. You have been known to post fact free assertions and |
seaglass |
Jun-24-09 04:16 PM |
#73 |
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But we have seen abuse photos and we've seen people shot in Iran |
WIllo |
Jun-24-09 01:34 PM |
#55 |
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Laughter erupted? When the subjects at hand were a murdered girl and tortured men and boys? |
WinkyDink |
Jun-24-09 02:49 PM |
#56 |
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Dumbest comparison I've ever heard. Time to retire Helen. |
Phx_Dem |
Jun-24-09 02:52 PM |
#59 |
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It can't possibly be, it got 44 recs and counting. n/t |
ProSense |
Jun-24-09 07:53 PM |
#97 |
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Its a crying shame that the same woman who was lavished |
OwnedByFerrets |
Jun-24-09 02:59 PM |
#62 |
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I'm confused! I thought criticism was good and to be encouraged? |
Political Tiger |
Jun-24-09 03:20 PM |
#63 |
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Do you think that asking Helen to retire is good criticism? |
Sweet and Spicy |
Jun-24-09 03:53 PM |
#67 |
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"Not all criticism is created equal." |
Political Tiger |
Jun-24-09 04:09 PM |
#72 |
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I think it was well said, actually |
tavalon |
Jun-25-09 04:51 AM |
#146 |
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She's doing the same thing she's done since Kennedy was president |
dflprincess |
Jun-24-09 08:56 PM |
#106 |
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Criticism is one thing and it is appropriate |
rpannier |
Jun-24-09 10:28 PM |
#113 |
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My feelings exactly. |
bvar22 |
Jun-24-09 03:37 PM |
#66 |
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Yep. |
Forkboy |
Jun-24-09 03:59 PM |
#70 |
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no shoot.. |
frylock |
Jun-24-09 09:27 PM |
#109 |
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+1 |
Blue_Tires |
Jun-24-09 04:01 PM |
#71 |
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Okay, help me out |
tavalon |
Jun-25-09 04:54 AM |
#147 |
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it essentially means: |
Blue_Tires |
Jun-25-09 07:28 AM |
#155 |
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I got the gist, I just hadn't seen a single post like that before say, two weeks ago |
tavalon |
Jun-25-09 05:57 PM |
#180 |
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+2 |
leftstreet |
Jun-25-09 12:30 AM |
#127 |
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No, no, no... YOU forgot something! |
Stand and Fight |
Jun-25-09 12:59 AM |
#132 |
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Not from me |
tavalon |
Jun-25-09 04:55 AM |
#148 |
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I keep using this |
spiritual_gunfighter |
Jun-25-09 05:09 AM |
#152 |
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That was a very different DU that sent roses to Helen Thomas. n/t |
QC |
Jun-25-09 08:58 AM |
#158 |
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hypocrisysome have forgotten that truth is a virtue |
fascisthunter |
Jun-25-09 09:03 AM |
#162 |
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More people might call for accountability, we cannot have that :( nt |
slipslidingaway |
Jun-24-09 03:29 PM |
#64 |
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Give 'em hell, Helen! |
bigwillq |
Jun-24-09 03:57 PM |
#69 |
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And now....Helen Thomas goes under the bus |
Zodiak |
Jun-24-09 05:16 PM |
#76 |
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Bill Maher nails it with his latest video. There are 2 parties: center right party & the crazy party |
earth mom |
Jun-24-09 07:18 PM |
#92 |
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I don't typically start OPs |
Zodiak |
Jun-25-09 04:36 PM |
#176 |
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Soon To Add Seymour Hersh |
NashVegas |
Jun-25-09 04:10 PM |
#175 |
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Why? |
Zodiak |
Jun-25-09 04:45 PM |
#177 |
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And doing it now would be so much more effective, AND a challenge to the Iranians to do the same! |
cascadiance |
Jun-24-09 05:35 PM |
#79 |
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Thank you Helen. |
Gregorian |
Jun-24-09 06:07 PM |
#80 |
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I agree.... |
rustydad |
Jun-24-09 06:17 PM |
#82 |
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Helen is our National Treasure! |
winyanstaz |
Jun-24-09 07:00 PM |
#87 |
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Helen Thomas IS NOW A COLUMNIST. Columnists don't get called on in WH press |
FailureToCommunicate |
Jun-24-09 07:26 PM |
#93 |
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It's much easier to address Irans abuses than our own. That doesn't require US to change. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-24-09 07:31 PM |
#94 |
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Will noone rid me of this troublesome reporter? |
billyoc |
Jun-24-09 07:32 PM |
#95 |
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LOL |
Forkboy |
Jun-24-09 07:59 PM |
#99 |
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Perzackly. |
WinkyDink |
Jun-25-09 10:07 AM |
#165 |
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ironically, releasing them would no doubt undermine even the Iran protesters by letting them say... |
tomm2thumbs |
Jun-24-09 07:57 PM |
#98 |
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We do not need to see those pictures |
Barbara2423 |
Jun-24-09 08:23 PM |
#101 |
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....as long as a jury sees them..... |
Alameda |
Jun-24-09 10:36 PM |
#116 |
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Best response ever! |
tavalon |
Jun-25-09 05:02 AM |
#149 |
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Thanks, Helen Thomas! Hypocrites, beware. Helen Thomas is there. |
JDPriestly |
Jun-24-09 08:31 PM |
#102 |
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Helen is my Heroine |
Swagman |
Jun-24-09 10:38 PM |
#118 |
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The day the Neda video came out, I had exactly the same thought |
Duer 157099 |
Jun-24-09 10:42 PM |
#120 |
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I hope I'm still that sharp at her age. |
girl gone mad |
Jun-24-09 10:43 PM |
#121 |
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Helen Thomas might not know what a "war crime" is? |
boppers |
Jun-24-09 11:45 PM |
#126 |
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I will not -- in the interest of maintaining the party line -- knock down Helen Thomas. |
Stand and Fight |
Jun-25-09 12:46 AM |
#129 |
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Helen is the best |
Necon-Be-Gone |
Jun-25-09 12:55 AM |
#130 |
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Released photos WOULD taint a jury pool for the war crimes trial. |
troubledamerican |
Jun-25-09 01:14 AM |
#133 |
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What war crimes trial? |
tavalon |
Jun-25-09 05:05 AM |
#151 |
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Oh SNAP! |
kenny blankenship |
Jun-25-09 09:50 AM |
#163 |
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Her analogy is flawed |
karynnj |
Jun-25-09 10:51 AM |
#168 |
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Yeah. If Obama released those photos now, |
bvar22 |
Jun-25-09 01:21 PM |
#170 |
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The memos are more damning than the photos - and they are out |
karynnj |
Jun-25-09 03:13 PM |
#172 |
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But aren't you worried that the photos will "Incite" people? |
bvar22 |
Jun-25-09 03:30 PM |
#173 |
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I respectfully disagree |
karynnj |
Jun-25-09 03:56 PM |
#174 |
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Have you noticed that we the people are not very good at getting outraged by words |
tavalon |
Jun-25-09 06:02 PM |
#181 |
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Good for Helen! |
Starry Messenger |
Jun-25-09 02:09 PM |
#171 |
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