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60. Obama has said he wants to release them later as well. n/t
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  -Helen Thomas to Obama: If you see the importance of Neda video, why won't you release abuse photos? Sweet and Spicy  Jun-24-09 09:35 AM   #0 
  - Answer is obvious.  Occam Bandage   Jun-24-09 09:36 AM   #1 
  - +1. n/t  vaberella   Jun-24-09 09:38 AM   #5 
  - +2! n/t  Boomerang Diddle   Jun-24-09 02:50 PM   #58 
  - yep, that covers it completely.  wyldwolf   Jun-24-09 10:03 AM   #19 
  - That's right. We've seen how the Neda pics have inflamed people  Political Tiger   Jun-24-09 01:16 PM   #53 
  - Are you confused by the similarity in names between Iran and Iraq?  tavalon   Jun-25-09 04:09 AM   #135 
  - Some people are culpable for their actions and others aren't.. Duh. nt  Umbral   Jun-24-09 06:50 PM   #85 
  - A 21 year old kid shouldn't have to die because of what Cheney/Bush  ecstatic   Jun-24-09 07:15 PM   #90 
     - What if the protesters kill innocent Iranian soldiers in retaliation?  Sweet and Spicy   Jun-24-09 09:14 PM   #107 
  - So let me see if I have...  SkyIsGrey   Jun-24-09 07:15 PM   #91 
  - If you want to see those kinds of pictures - go to the library...  Butch350   Jun-24-09 08:07 PM   #100 
     - So the Iranian government should oppress any photos or video?  SkyIsGrey   Jun-24-09 08:43 PM   #103 
     - I will eloquently put it this way.  Butch350   Jun-24-09 09:42 PM   #110 
     - Butch350, that was not eloquent. It was just plain inaccurate. One form of torture  bertman   Jun-24-09 11:35 PM   #125 
     - That you have a picture of Neda as your avatar  tavalon   Jun-25-09 04:17 AM   #137 
     - Front Page.  SkyIsGrey   Jun-25-09 05:23 AM   #153 
     - Bullshit...  quickesst   Jun-25-09 05:35 AM   #154 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-24-09 09:20 PM   #108 
     - +1! n/t  JohnnyK   Jun-24-09 11:25 PM   #123 
     - Well Said... Frylock! n/t  ChiciB1   Jun-24-09 11:30 PM   #124 
     - A little over the top, but I agree with some parts of your post.  liquid diamond   Jun-24-09 09:52 PM   #112 
     - Except that the average idiot American will be forced to confront  tavalon   Jun-25-09 04:21 AM   #138 
     - Good point! I have hard enough time getting them out of my mind.  Alameda   Jun-24-09 10:35 PM   #115 
     - really? that's just weird  fascisthunter   Jun-25-09 08:57 AM   #157 
     - What the fuck is wrong with you.  girl gone mad   Jun-24-09 10:46 PM   #122 
     - Sophistry at it's worst  fascisthunter   Jun-25-09 09:00 AM   #159 
     - dupe  fascisthunter   Jun-25-09 09:00 AM   #160 
     - You seem to be suffering from a logical disconnect...  Stand and Fight   Jun-25-09 12:41 AM   #128 
     - Do you think we actually are looking forward to seeing the pictures?  tavalon   Jun-25-09 04:14 AM   #136 
     - Way to miss the point completely  spiritual_gunfighter   Jun-25-09 05:03 AM   #150 
     - So you don't think the German people should  truth2power   Jun-25-09 09:50 AM   #164 
  - such easy answers  mdmc   Jun-24-09 09:45 PM   #111 
  - With that statement, you ruin your credibility.  LittleBlue   Jun-25-09 04:06 AM   #134 
     - Obama is the President of the United States it's his job to act in the nation's self-interest  Hippo_Tron   Jun-25-09 04:56 PM   #178 
  - Big kick for Helen  Autumn   Jun-24-09 09:36 AM   #2 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-24-09 11:25 AM   #37 
     - You don't have to like her  Autumn   Jun-24-09 11:35 AM   #39 
     - I thought she was brilliant to insert a cogent question at that moment  lunatica   Jun-24-09 06:14 PM   #81 
     - What a loathsome thing to say - even "metaphorically."  Peregrine Took   Jun-24-09 06:46 PM   #84 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-25-09 07:38 AM   #156 
  - How are the two issues related? n/t  vaberella   Jun-24-09 09:36 AM   #3 
  - Citizens seeing injustice by police or soldiers,  Eric J in MN   Jun-24-09 10:18 AM   #24 
  - See my post #42  Forkboy   Jun-24-09 11:48 AM   #43 
  - It's censorship plain and simple  Liberation Angel   Jun-24-09 06:58 PM   #86 
  - K&R  invictus   Jun-24-09 09:37 AM   #4 
  - Dumb question  BeyondGeography   Jun-24-09 09:38 AM   #6 
  - If US forces killed a Neda in New Jersey, would Obama attempt to supress the video?  Sweet and Spicy   Jun-24-09 09:40 AM   #7 
     - I assume not.  Occam Bandage   Jun-24-09 09:47 AM   #9 
     - Why do you "assume not," if you don't think it could ever happen?  Sweet and Spicy   Jun-24-09 09:49 AM   #10 
     - Because the likely response is not related to the practicality of the hypothetical.  Occam Bandage   Jun-24-09 09:57 AM   #14 
        - A hypothetical question needs not contain a likely scenario  Sweet and Spicy   Jun-24-09 10:07 AM   #20 
           - Yes, that's what I just said. The practicality is unrelated to the answer.  Occam Bandage   Jun-24-09 10:15 AM   #22 
              - So your answer was "I assume not." as far as I can tell,  tavalon   Jun-25-09 04:31 AM   #140 
     - Occam Bandage, you are making a huge assumption in your first paragraph. There are  bertman   Jun-24-09 05:28 PM   #77 
     - None dare call it genocide.  asteroid2003QQ47   Jun-24-09 06:41 PM   #83 
     - I have never seen so many posts on a single OP  tavalon   Jun-25-09 04:29 AM   #139 
     - How's Obama suppressing the video in that scenario unless the Feds are there shooting it themselves?  high density   Jun-24-09 09:53 AM   #13 
  - So torture at Gitmo by USA is somehow related to Iran shooting people in the street?  high density   Jun-24-09 09:46 AM   #8 
  - just simplify to clarify:  mikelgb   Jun-24-09 10:00 AM   #16 
  - Except...  high density   Jun-24-09 11:08 AM   #34 
  - That's what I couldn't get either. n/t  vaberella   Jun-24-09 10:02 AM   #17 
  - Pictures and pictures  tavalon   Jun-25-09 04:35 AM   #141 
  - Release photos of Timmy McVeigh's death shroud while we're at it  zulchzulu   Jun-24-09 09:50 AM   #11 
  - Timothy McVeigh was legally killed  Sweet and Spicy   Jun-24-09 09:52 AM   #12 
     - Neda was as well. nt  Occam Bandage   Jun-24-09 09:59 AM   #15 
     - Explain the law that resulted in the death of Neda n/t  Sweet and Spicy   Jun-24-09 10:02 AM   #18 
        - Iran does not have the same system of comprehensive legal protections America does.  Occam Bandage   Jun-24-09 10:14 AM   #21 
           - No, but they do have universal healthcare  Oregone   Jun-24-09 10:36 AM   #31 
     - But can't we see the pictures? Huh? Huh? Huh?  zulchzulu   Jun-24-09 11:50 AM   #45 
  - There's a reason they're laughing condescendingly. I fear Helen's heyday..  Tarheel_Dem   Jun-24-09 10:15 AM   #23 
  - Well, Helen has a history of being petty  Oregone   Jun-24-09 10:21 AM   #26 
  - No, Helen has a selective memory. I'm still waiting for her hitpiece on  Tarheel_Dem   Jun-24-09 10:57 AM   #33 
     - Oh Boy, So Helen's "Big Crime" Was Supporting Hillary?  Dinger   Jun-24-09 05:13 PM   #75 
     - Nope. Helen's big crime is intellectual dishonesty. She threw her full support  Tarheel_Dem   Jun-24-09 10:34 PM   #114 
        - I don't agree but your questions are definitely legitimate ones  Swagman   Jun-24-09 10:41 PM   #119 
     - Get over the primaries & take your blinders off. Not much has changed and Helen is pointing it out.  earth mom   Jun-24-09 07:07 PM   #88 
  - I see you as not getting over the primaries either. Guess you two are even.  Forkboy   Jun-24-09 11:20 AM   #36 
  - Helen Thomas supported Obama against McCain  Sweet and Spicy   Jun-24-09 11:36 AM   #40 
  - You take a journalist doing her job as an assault on the President?  tavalon   Jun-25-09 04:38 AM   #142 
  - If you see the importance of Neda video, why do *we* keep killing Iraqis  Oregone   Jun-24-09 10:20 AM   #25 
  - Dancing around the truth, what a surprise.  Metta   Jun-24-09 10:21 AM   #27 
  - Oh dear. It appears it is time for Helen to retire as her mind is deteriorating.  GarbagemanLB   Jun-24-09 10:24 AM   #28 
  - Is Greenwald's mind deteriorating too?  Sweet and Spicy   Jun-24-09 11:34 AM   #38 
     - Glen Greenwald?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jun-24-09 11:38 AM   #41 
        - That funny, because Obama reads Greenwald every day  Sweet and Spicy   Jun-24-09 11:50 AM   #44 
  - Is releasing the torture photos worth another uprising in Iraq?  ericgtr   Jun-24-09 10:26 AM   #29 
  - Its their country  Oregone   Jun-24-09 10:32 AM   #30 
  - ""Experts see no clear link between the Abu Ghraib and military deaths"  Sweet and Spicy   Jun-24-09 11:53 AM   #46 
  - You think the Iraqis don't already know what went on?  dflprincess   Jun-24-09 08:49 PM   #104 
  - Point?  tavalon   Jun-25-09 04:41 AM   #143 
  - Go, Helen, go!  Vidar   Jun-24-09 10:54 AM   #32 
  - +1  emilyg   Jun-24-09 01:03 PM   #51 
  - I don't see the connection.  AtomicKitten   Jun-24-09 11:18 AM   #35 
  - Actually, it does, though I agree it needs some more context.  Forkboy   Jun-24-09 11:44 AM   #42 
     - Neda's murder was captured and sent out virtually real-time.  AtomicKitten   Jun-24-09 11:59 AM   #47 
  - He snubbed her  Politicalboi   Jun-24-09 12:08 PM   #48 
  - The question she blurted out, interrupting him?  Clio the Leo   Jun-24-09 12:49 PM   #50 
     - Oooh, the people dared to interrupt the President! How rude of the vox populi!  WinkyDink   Jun-24-09 02:50 PM   #57 
        - Nope and SHE is not God's gift to the White House ....  Clio the Leo   Jun-24-09 02:55 PM   #61 
           - Helen is certainly not God's Gift to the White House....  bvar22   Jun-24-09 03:34 PM   #65 
           - But you NEVER heard applause coming from me....  Clio the Leo   Jun-24-09 03:56 PM   #68 
           - Just heard on Thom Hartmann:  bvar22   Jun-24-09 05:11 PM   #74 
           - Are you speaking of press briefings or....  Clio the Leo   Jun-24-09 05:32 PM   #78 
           - No, they don't "prescreen" the questions. Whoever you heard on Hartman is incorrect.  FailureToCommunicate   Jun-24-09 07:48 PM   #96 
           - That was long before you showed up here, my dear.  QC   Jun-25-09 09:01 AM   #161 
              - Best post yet!  dgibby   Jun-25-09 10:26 AM   #166 
              - Short and sweet. Nailed it.  Jakes Progress   Jun-25-09 11:20 AM   #169 
           - Yep, the Obama administration is afraid millions here will rise up just like they did in Iran.  earth mom   Jun-24-09 07:10 PM   #89 
           - That's exactly what I was going to say about Helen. (eom)  dflprincess   Jun-24-09 08:52 PM   #105 
           - Spot on!  spoony   Jun-24-09 10:36 PM   #117 
           - This place reeks of hypocrisy from all quarters.  Stand and Fight   Jun-25-09 12:56 AM   #131 
           - Yeah, I'm pretty mortified by the hypocrisy of late  tavalon   Jun-25-09 04:49 AM   #145 
           - I remember this  Eric_323   Jun-25-09 10:33 AM   #167 
           - It used to be, in the day of real journalism, that people did sometimes blurt out questions  tavalon   Jun-25-09 04:44 AM   #144 
              - I'm wondering if this was the first press conference some people here have seen.  QC   Jun-25-09 04:58 PM   #179 
  - go Helen!  JustinL   Jun-24-09 12:35 PM   #49 
  - Apples and oranges. n/t  Political Tiger   Jun-24-09 01:13 PM   #52 
  - Maybe so as to not inflame those in Iran so they CAN turn against a radical regime  Jennicut   Jun-24-09 01:18 PM   #54 
  - Obama has said he wants to release them later as well. n/t  vaberella   Jun-24-09 02:54 PM   #60 
     - Prove it. You have been known to post fact free assertions and  seaglass   Jun-24-09 04:16 PM   #73 
  - But we have seen abuse photos and we've seen people shot in Iran  WIllo   Jun-24-09 01:34 PM   #55 
  - Laughter erupted? When the subjects at hand were a murdered girl and tortured men and boys?  WinkyDink   Jun-24-09 02:49 PM   #56 
  - Dumbest comparison I've ever heard. Time to retire Helen.  Phx_Dem   Jun-24-09 02:52 PM   #59 
  - It can't possibly be, it got 44 recs and counting. n/t  ProSense   Jun-24-09 07:53 PM   #97 
  - Its a crying shame that the same woman who was lavished  OwnedByFerrets   Jun-24-09 02:59 PM   #62 
  - I'm confused! I thought criticism was good and to be encouraged?  Political Tiger   Jun-24-09 03:20 PM   #63 
  - Do you think that asking Helen to retire is good criticism?  Sweet and Spicy   Jun-24-09 03:53 PM   #67 
  - "Not all criticism is created equal."  Political Tiger   Jun-24-09 04:09 PM   #72 
     - I think it was well said, actually  tavalon   Jun-25-09 04:51 AM   #146 
  - She's doing the same thing she's done since Kennedy was president  dflprincess   Jun-24-09 08:56 PM   #106 
  - Criticism is one thing and it is appropriate  rpannier   Jun-24-09 10:28 PM   #113 
  - My feelings exactly.  bvar22   Jun-24-09 03:37 PM   #66 
  - Yep.  Forkboy   Jun-24-09 03:59 PM   #70 
  - no shoot..  frylock   Jun-24-09 09:27 PM   #109 
  - +1  Blue_Tires   Jun-24-09 04:01 PM   #71 
  - Okay, help me out  tavalon   Jun-25-09 04:54 AM   #147 
     - it essentially means:  Blue_Tires   Jun-25-09 07:28 AM   #155 
        - I got the gist, I just hadn't seen a single post like that before say, two weeks ago  tavalon   Jun-25-09 05:57 PM   #180 
  - +2  leftstreet   Jun-25-09 12:30 AM   #127 
  - No, no, no... YOU forgot something!  Stand and Fight   Jun-25-09 12:59 AM   #132 
  - Not from me  tavalon   Jun-25-09 04:55 AM   #148 
  - I keep using this  spiritual_gunfighter   Jun-25-09 05:09 AM   #152 
  - That was a very different DU that sent roses to Helen Thomas. n/t  QC   Jun-25-09 08:58 AM   #158 
  - hypocrisysome have forgotten that truth is a virtue  fascisthunter   Jun-25-09 09:03 AM   #162 
  - More people might call for accountability, we cannot have that :( nt  slipslidingaway   Jun-24-09 03:29 PM   #64 
  - Give 'em hell, Helen!  bigwillq   Jun-24-09 03:57 PM   #69 
  - And now....Helen Thomas goes under the bus  Zodiak   Jun-24-09 05:16 PM   #76 
  - Bill Maher nails it with his latest video. There are 2 parties: center right party & the crazy party  earth mom   Jun-24-09 07:18 PM   #92 
  - I don't typically start OPs  Zodiak   Jun-25-09 04:36 PM   #176 
  - Soon To Add Seymour Hersh  NashVegas   Jun-25-09 04:10 PM   #175 
     - Why?  Zodiak   Jun-25-09 04:45 PM   #177 
  - And doing it now would be so much more effective, AND a challenge to the Iranians to do the same!  cascadiance   Jun-24-09 05:35 PM   #79 
  - Thank you Helen.  Gregorian   Jun-24-09 06:07 PM   #80 
  - I agree....  rustydad   Jun-24-09 06:17 PM   #82 
  - Helen is our National Treasure!  winyanstaz   Jun-24-09 07:00 PM   #87 
  - Helen Thomas IS NOW A COLUMNIST. Columnists don't get called on in WH press  FailureToCommunicate   Jun-24-09 07:26 PM   #93 
  - It's much easier to address Irans abuses than our own. That doesn't require US to change.  Wizard777   Jun-24-09 07:31 PM   #94 
  - Will noone rid me of this troublesome reporter?  billyoc   Jun-24-09 07:32 PM   #95 
  - LOL  Forkboy   Jun-24-09 07:59 PM   #99 
  - Perzackly.  WinkyDink   Jun-25-09 10:07 AM   #165 
  - ironically, releasing them would no doubt undermine even the Iran protesters by letting them say...  tomm2thumbs   Jun-24-09 07:57 PM   #98 
  - We do not need to see those pictures  Barbara2423   Jun-24-09 08:23 PM   #101 
  - ....as long as a jury sees them.....  Alameda   Jun-24-09 10:36 PM   #116 
     - Best response ever!  tavalon   Jun-25-09 05:02 AM   #149 
  - Thanks, Helen Thomas! Hypocrites, beware. Helen Thomas is there.  JDPriestly   Jun-24-09 08:31 PM   #102 
  - Helen is my Heroine  Swagman   Jun-24-09 10:38 PM   #118 
  - The day the Neda video came out, I had exactly the same thought  Duer 157099   Jun-24-09 10:42 PM   #120 
  - I hope I'm still that sharp at her age.  girl gone mad   Jun-24-09 10:43 PM   #121 
  - Helen Thomas might not know what a "war crime" is?  boppers   Jun-24-09 11:45 PM   #126 
  - I will not -- in the interest of maintaining the party line -- knock down Helen Thomas.  Stand and Fight   Jun-25-09 12:46 AM   #129 
  - Helen is the best  Necon-Be-Gone   Jun-25-09 12:55 AM   #130 
  - Released photos WOULD taint a jury pool for the war crimes trial.  troubledamerican   Jun-25-09 01:14 AM   #133 
  - What war crimes trial?  tavalon   Jun-25-09 05:05 AM   #151 
  - Oh SNAP!  kenny blankenship   Jun-25-09 09:50 AM   #163 
  - Her analogy is flawed  karynnj   Jun-25-09 10:51 AM   #168 
  - Yeah. If Obama released those photos now,  bvar22   Jun-25-09 01:21 PM   #170 
     - The memos are more damning than the photos - and they are out  karynnj   Jun-25-09 03:13 PM   #172 
        - But aren't you worried that the photos will "Incite" people?  bvar22   Jun-25-09 03:30 PM   #173 
        - I respectfully disagree  karynnj   Jun-25-09 03:56 PM   #174 
        - Have you noticed that we the people are not very good at getting outraged by words  tavalon   Jun-25-09 06:02 PM   #181 
  - Good for Helen!  Starry Messenger   Jun-25-09 02:09 PM   #171 
 

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