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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 01:18 PM
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  -Why the tension between LGBTers and the President's ardent supporters Prism  Jun-18-09 01:16 PM   #0 
  - thoughtful post.  dionysus   Jun-18-09 01:18 PM   #1 
  - EXCELLENT OP -- k&r  LostinVA   Jun-18-09 01:18 PM   #2 
  - Very well said, says this straight woman  incapsulated   Jun-18-09 01:18 PM   #3 
  - The title is a false dichotomy.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jun-18-09 01:19 PM   #4 
  - No, it isn't. n/t  incapsulated   Jun-18-09 01:20 PM   #5 
  - I wasn't sure what term to use  Prism   Jun-18-09 01:28 PM   #8 
  - I would like to think they are not mutually exclusive. n/t  AtomicKitten   Jun-18-09 04:26 PM   #37 
  - I still believe that Obama wants to be pushed and challenged by the left  Lex   Jun-18-09 01:21 PM   #6 
  - And if the left puts no pressure on him, then all the pressure will be coming from the right.  QC   Jun-18-09 01:26 PM   #7 
  - Exactly.  Lex   Jun-18-09 01:32 PM   #11 
     - We're pushing with the flow not against it. The OP brought that out nicely. n/t  bluedawg12   Jun-18-09 09:08 PM   #40 
  - Obama simply being "pushed and challenged" by the left  Proud Liberal Dem   Jun-18-09 01:34 PM   #12 
     - Well, he doesn't read here.  Starry Messenger   Jun-18-09 01:36 PM   #14 
     - I have more confidence in his strength and poise than to think  Lex   Jun-18-09 01:36 PM   #15 
     - Well, I too doubt they would hurt his feelings  Proud Liberal Dem   Jun-18-09 01:46 PM   #20 
        - Hopefully he will pay attention to the reaction to the statements  Starry Messenger   Jun-18-09 01:51 PM   #24 
     - Maybe, but most here aren't in leadership positions  Prism   Jun-18-09 01:48 PM   #21 
        - I don't blame anybody for feeling frustrated and weary  Proud Liberal Dem   Jun-18-09 01:52 PM   #26 
           - President Obama is simply what we have in common at the moment  Prism   Jun-18-09 02:04 PM   #29 
  - I hope that LGBT activists keep the pressure on, but do so constructively.  Cant trust em   Jun-18-09 01:28 PM   #9 
  - Like any push for equality, it will take ALL forms of pressure.  Lex   Jun-18-09 01:35 PM   #13 
  - I think there's a difference between loud and snarky attention grabbing  Cant trust em   Jun-18-09 01:38 PM   #16 
     - Post's on DU are hardly some official statement from King  incapsulated   Jun-18-09 01:39 PM   #17 
     - I'm thinking more about op-eds, not just DU.  Cant trust em   Jun-18-09 01:49 PM   #22 
     - Everyone plays a part.  Lex   Jun-18-09 01:40 PM   #18 
     - There's a difference between what gets posted here  Starry Messenger   Jun-18-09 01:42 PM   #19 
        - Right. Those press releases were perfect.  Cant trust em   Jun-18-09 01:50 PM   #23 
  - Dupe n/t  Prism   Jun-18-09 02:03 PM   #28 
  - Excellent OP. Outstanding. k&r  Starry Messenger   Jun-18-09 01:32 PM   #10 
  - The closer we edge to equality...  Orsino   Jun-18-09 01:52 PM   #25 
  - recommend -- and wow parts of this thread are sure an interesting read. nt  xchrom   Jun-18-09 01:54 PM   #27 
  - This is some nice prose.  LooseWilly   Jun-18-09 02:07 PM   #30 
  - .  Starry Messenger   Jun-19-09 06:59 AM   #46 
  - K&R  PVnRT   Jun-18-09 02:17 PM   #31 
  - Are you suggesting the "President's ardent supporters" are not for LGBT rights?  zulchzulu   Jun-18-09 03:02 PM   #32 
  - Not at all  Prism   Jun-18-09 03:15 PM   #33 
  - As an ardent supporter of President Obama  Cha   Jun-18-09 03:23 PM   #34 
  - i'm between a rock and a hard place here  elana i am   Jun-18-09 04:05 PM   #35 
  - We mostly agree  Prism   Jun-18-09 04:24 PM   #36 
  - K&R, eloquently & effectively argued. n/t  tpsbmam   Jun-18-09 06:09 PM   #38 
  - Thank you for the thoughtful post. K&R. n/t  bluedawg12   Jun-18-09 09:06 PM   #39 
  - My position remains the same. I'm all for gay rights, but I'm a  liquid diamond   Jun-18-09 09:43 PM   #41 
  - You wait  mitchtv   Jun-18-09 10:38 PM   #42 
     - I'm young and I don't want to wait either  Chovexani   Jun-18-09 10:49 PM   #43 
        - Good for you, you have more reason  mitchtv   Jun-18-09 11:02 PM   #44 
  - So, how do we push?  ohheckyeah   Jun-18-09 11:47 PM   #45 
     - There are many ways  Prism   Jun-19-09 02:26 PM   #47 
        - Thanks for the reply.  ohheckyeah   Jun-19-09 03:46 PM   #48 
 

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