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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:42 PM
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8. Kaiser operates a string of HMOs. Although they are non-profit, since they
have a dog in this fight, I think they would lean away from single payer so they would have a bias.
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  -49% favor a single government plan according to this poll... slipslidingaway  Jun-16-09 01:23 PM   #0 
  - As a Canadian with a Great Health Plan i pitty the 47% who dont understand the benfits  quantass   Jun-16-09 01:29 PM   #1 
  - In part thanks to our great media :( n/t  slipslidingaway   Jun-16-09 01:36 PM   #4 
  - Decades of relentless propaganda  depakid   Jun-16-09 01:51 PM   #10 
     - Yes and it is sad :( n/t  slipslidingaway   Jun-16-09 01:53 PM   #12 
  - For some insight...  Oregone   Jun-16-09 04:21 PM   #27 
  - they are constantly told how much you hate your awful system and want ours  ejpoeta   Jun-17-09 06:27 AM   #48 
  - 67% are in favor of a public health insurance option like Medicare; 29% opposed.  lindisfarne   Jun-16-09 01:29 PM   #2 
  - Yeah, that's the no brainer part. Public Option is even more popular than single payer  HamdenRice   Jun-16-09 01:33 PM   #3 
  - 49% of the people do not matter, the no brainer part is that  slipslidingaway   Jun-16-09 01:47 PM   #9 
  - I will agree with you there. The Obama administration explicitly denied Sanders' request to be in  lindisfarne   Jun-16-09 02:14 PM   #16 
     - The tone was set by Obama at the WH summit ...  slipslidingaway   Jun-16-09 02:42 PM   #19 
        - I agreed with you! I'm aware of of what Obama said. I don't think single payer is the answer but I  lindisfarne   Jun-16-09 03:03 PM   #21 
        - Which meeting are you speaking of in May, I'm speaking of  slipslidingaway   Jun-16-09 03:06 PM   #24 
        - Obama never claimed during his campaign that he was for a single payer system - in fact he said the  lindisfarne   Jun-16-09 03:31 PM   #25 
           - And I never said that he did - but he did say that he would bring  slipslidingaway   Jun-16-09 04:05 PM   #26 
  - Where do you get that single payer is the most popular plan?  karynnj   Jun-16-09 09:15 PM   #33 
  - No seat at the table is an under-handed way to sell a program. What are you afraid of? Debate?  John Q. Citizen   Jun-17-09 09:54 AM   #49 
  - It might have something to do with the fact that the public  slipslidingaway   Jun-16-09 01:41 PM   #7 
     - The most recent version of the Kaiser survey was conducted in April 09 - before high profile Dems  lindisfarne   Jun-16-09 02:13 PM   #15 
        - Did you read the OP where I posted the dates of the survey...  slipslidingaway   Jun-16-09 02:24 PM   #17 
        - High profile Dems have been pushing the public option since January. Where have you been?  John Q. Citizen   Jun-17-09 09:58 AM   #50 
  - I don't trust Kaiser. Kaiser shut single-payer advocates out of a meeting  avaistheone1   Jun-16-09 01:36 PM   #5 
  - Does that mean you also think support is 20% higher for the public option, or are you accusing Kaise  lindisfarne   Jun-16-09 01:37 PM   #6 
  - I think the support for single payer is at least 20% higher. I think Kaiser is baised against a  avaistheone1   Jun-16-09 01:55 PM   #13 
     - Did you read the information at the link? A survey was conducted. Two of the  lindisfarne   Jun-16-09 02:11 PM   #14 
  - Kaiser operates a string of HMOs. Although they are non-profit, since they  Cleita   Jun-16-09 01:42 PM   #8 
  - Link to the survey is in the OP and at least the direct question  slipslidingaway   Jun-16-09 01:51 PM   #11 
  - I don't trust Kaiser either, but  Sebastian Doyle   Jun-16-09 02:28 PM   #18 
  - People who support SPHC want a real debate not a pretend  slipslidingaway   Jun-16-09 03:03 PM   #22 
  - Kaiser Family Foundation is not associated with Kaiser Permanente or Kaiser Industries.  lindisfarne   Jun-16-09 03:06 PM   #23 
     - Facts .... how inconvenient  Stinky The Clown   Jun-16-09 08:36 PM   #29 
        - Also ......  Stinky The Clown   Jun-16-09 08:41 PM   #30 
  - President Obama Must Include Single-Payer Advocates In National Health Care Debate  slipslidingaway   Jun-16-09 02:47 PM   #20 
  - kick - 49% who favor a single plan should not be excluded  slipslidingaway   Jun-16-09 08:20 PM   #28 
  - Why single payer?  jeanpalmer   Jun-16-09 08:58 PM   #31 
  - The single-payer system being talked about is more like  slipslidingaway   Jun-16-09 10:11 PM   #38 
  - This is misleading  karynnj   Jun-16-09 09:12 PM   #32 
  - Why say it is misleading, it is a recent poll and those were the  slipslidingaway   Jun-16-09 10:18 PM   #39 
  - Because you are taking the one response out of context  karynnj   Jun-16-09 10:26 PM   #43 
     - Yes people should look at the survey and I did only highlight  slipslidingaway   Jun-16-09 10:41 PM   #44 
        - True - and it was nice seeing a survey that actually asked  karynnj   Jun-16-09 10:47 PM   #45 
           - Yes many surveys do not ask the question directly...thank you :) nt  slipslidingaway   Jun-16-09 10:58 PM   #46 
  - i remember that reforms started by people who take money from the health care companies isn't reform  John Q. Citizen   Jun-17-09 10:09 AM   #51 
  - We must have health reform this year  quidam56   Jun-16-09 09:34 PM   #34 
  - We need it ASAP, but we have to get it right and look at all  slipslidingaway   Jun-16-09 10:20 PM   #40 
  - It should have included several advocates from the different  sisters6   Jun-16-09 09:56 PM   #35 
  - Yes, they should have been included....welcome to DU :) n/t  slipslidingaway   Jun-16-09 10:21 PM   #41 
     - Thank you. Have a good day.  sisters6   Jun-17-09 06:13 AM   #47 
  - K and R  sisters6   Jun-16-09 09:57 PM   #36 
  - K&R  mvd   Jun-16-09 09:59 PM   #37 
  - No we do not, thanks for the knr. nt  slipslidingaway   Jun-16-09 10:22 PM   #42 
  - 83% Support a public insurance plan (Corporate Funded EBRI)  uponit7771   Jun-17-09 10:31 AM   #52 
  - Unfortunately this poll did not ask about a single-payer system...  slipslidingaway   Jun-17-09 04:06 PM   #53 
  - When are people going to fucking wake up - You KNOW it's far more tha 49%-  GreenTea   Jun-17-09 04:41 PM   #54 
 

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