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suston96 (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jun-16-09 01:37 PM
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42. Change takes time....always has...
FDR's economic cures took years and were accelerated with Lend Lease and then Pearl Harbor and WW II.

JFK in his inaugural said that changes would not happen in weeks or months or even in his first term. Barack Obama said the same thing in his inaugural.

Bill Maher was a history major and maybe should do a little research before spouting off his "new rules" that come from his ill informed comedy writers.

Mixing comedy with history may be funny for the moment but in this instance it clearly collides with factual analysis.
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  "Make me do it" said FDR. "Do it" says Maher, "FU" says DU to Maher.... themaguffin  Jun-16-09 12:44 PM   #0 
   So comedians must not be criticized, only Presidents  NJmaverick   Jun-16-09 12:48 PM   #1 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-16-09 12:54 PM   #3 
   LOL! I can't get over how you think comedians must be taken seriously  NJmaverick   Jun-16-09 12:57 PM   #7 
   LOL indeed  themaguffin   Jun-16-09 01:05 PM   #16 
      Yeah you are. your denials don't change that  NJmaverick   Jun-16-09 01:12 PM   #24 
         you need either  Froward69   Jun-16-09 01:16 PM   #32 
   You don't fucking call our posters "freepers".  Cha   Jun-16-09 01:00 PM   #13 
      I'm calling out a freeper-like comment, got it?  themaguffin   Jun-16-09 01:07 PM   #19 
         I'll comment where I fucking want..  Cha   Jun-16-09 01:09 PM   #21 
            He just doesn't feel others should enjoy that same right  NJmaverick   Jun-16-09 01:13 PM   #27 
            Correct, when you tell someone "you don't fucking call.." then yeah he feels that only select people  themaguffin   Jun-16-09 01:16 PM   #33 
            Pot meet kettle.  Raineyb   Jun-16-09 01:57 PM   #51 
            And you'll get a response, got it?  themaguffin   Jun-16-09 01:13 PM   #28 
   If Maher were factual and resonable then people would take him seriously, he wasn't...  uponit7771   Jun-16-09 12:56 PM   #4 
   Plus he is a comedian that makes people laugh for a living  NJmaverick   Jun-16-09 12:58 PM   #9 
   Bill Maher has never lied to me -- the Obama administration has n/t  nichomachus   Jun-16-09 12:58 PM   #10 
      Now that would be a joke, like Bill tells for a living  NJmaverick   Jun-16-09 01:00 PM   #12 
      He does social commentary in a humorous way  nichomachus   Jun-16-09 01:04 PM   #14 
         He is not some sort of scholar. He is a man that tells jokes for a living  NJmaverick   Jun-16-09 01:14 PM   #29 
            Can you point out where the poster is calling Bill Maher a scholar,  Guy Whitey Corngood   Jun-16-09 01:19 PM   #35 
               Interesting idea. So the Iraq war never happened  NJmaverick   Jun-16-09 01:30 PM   #38 
                  HEY LOOK OUT MAN!!!!  Guy Whitey Corngood   Jun-16-09 01:44 PM   #45 
                     Well I see you understand the concept of a strawman  NJmaverick   Jun-16-09 01:48 PM   #47 
                        No not at all. I'm sure you agree with many people on many different things.  Guy Whitey Corngood   Jun-16-09 01:53 PM   #50 
                        ad hominem  steelyboo   Jun-16-09 02:52 PM   #64 
                           My point was that he's arguing against the easily debunked argument  Guy Whitey Corngood   Jun-16-09 03:27 PM   #66 
      Oh Brother  otohara   Jun-16-09 01:12 PM   #25 
   A facts-based criticism is one thing  nichomachus   Jun-16-09 12:57 PM   # 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-16-09 12:59 PM   #11 
      No, you're the one who's mixed up  nichomachus   Jun-16-09 01:06 PM   #17 
      So I can see by your response your were being completely hypocritical in your demands  NJmaverick   Jun-16-09 01:09 PM   #22 
      dupe  nichomachus   Jun-16-09 01:06 PM   #18 
   You're the one who inferred that supporting a position means the person should never be criticized  camera obscura   Jun-16-09 01:10 PM   #23 
   funny ... this statement comes in the shadow of Letterman having to apologize  zbdent   Jun-16-09 01:17 PM   #34 
   I don't have HBO so I don't watch  asjr   Jun-16-09 12:54 PM   #2 
   but obama is special -- more special than anything else in the whole wide universe.  xchrom   Jun-16-09 12:57 PM   #5 
   I can't look at those pictures  nichomachus   Jun-16-09 12:58 PM   #8 
   He's the Democratic president who inherited the last  Cha   Jun-16-09 01:05 PM   #15 
   Yes, he inherited the nightmare and  nichomachus   Jun-16-09 01:07 PM   #20 
      Your statement shows you have no  Cha   Jun-16-09 01:12 PM   #26 
         see -- now i would say that about your fanboi approach to a guy  xchrom   Jun-16-09 01:36 PM   #41 
            You're right. It is just you.  Dawgs   Jun-16-09 01:46 PM   #46 
            exhibit B --  xchrom   Jun-16-09 01:57 PM   #52 
            And, you show no respect when you say "fanboi" but  Cha   Jun-16-09 02:00 PM   #53 
               Fanboi  RetroLounge   Jun-16-09 02:07 PM   #56 
                  Yeah, too bad you don't  Cha   Jun-16-09 02:15 PM   #59 
                     Got enough already, thanks...  RetroLounge   Jun-16-09 02:35 PM   #61 
                        Just what I  Cha   Jun-16-09 02:37 PM   #62 
                           Oh, snap!  RetroLounge   Jun-16-09 06:19 PM   #69 
   Has anyone decorated their myspace with Obama pictures and pretty hearts?  rcrush   Jun-16-09 01:53 PM   #48 
   You made me lol for real  incapsulated   Jun-16-09 02:03 PM   #54 
   So special. I need more pictures of him and his shirtless dog...  RetroLounge   Jun-16-09 02:08 PM   #57 
      shirtless dog!!!  xchrom   Jun-16-09 02:46 PM   #63 
   I think that Obama is doing what a President should at this time......  FrenchieCat   Jun-16-09 12:57 PM   #6 
   "Allowing" us to have a debate? "Allowing" democracy to happen?  dflprincess   Jun-16-09 01:15 PM   #31 
   For you to overeact to the word "allow"  FrenchieCat   Jun-16-09 01:33 PM   #39 
      Single payer gets mentioned in passing  dflprincess   Jun-16-09 01:44 PM   #44 
         Like I said....anyone who would go OMG due to my use of the word "allow"  FrenchieCat   Jun-16-09 02:06 PM   #55 
   "being willing to listen to various points of view" - is what Obama  slipslidingaway   Jun-16-09 02:10 PM   #58 
   Absolutely right.  BlueJac   Jun-16-09 01:14 PM   #30 
   Maher's HBO ratings are in the tank with SpongeBob kicking his ass  zulchzulu   Jun-16-09 01:24 PM   #36 
   Thank you  OwnedByFerrets   Jun-16-09 01:29 PM   #37 
   Maher is a clown. Why should we care what this asshat thinks?  Dawgs   Jun-16-09 01:34 PM   #40 
   Change takes time....always has...  suston96   Jun-16-09 01:37 PM   #42 
   I expected responses like this. The call to action doesn't mean  themaguffin   Jun-16-09 01:43 PM   #43 
   O'Donnell to Maher - "make congress do something"  grantcart   Jun-16-09 01:53 PM   #49 
   O'Donnell has it right  ellacott   Jun-16-09 06:20 PM   #71 
   I agree with what Maher said, and I would go further  latebloomer   Jun-16-09 02:25 PM   #60 
   FDR had *TRUE* filibuster-proof majorities in Congress that sided with him almost all the time.  4lbs   Jun-16-09 03:05 PM   #65 
   You forgot to add  zalinda   Jun-16-09 03:48 PM   #67 
      FDR didn't have a spineless Congress to deal with. If he did, we wouldn't have  4lbs   Jun-16-09 06:10 PM   #68 
   This lashing out at Maher is ludicrous,  MrSlayer   Jun-16-09 06:20 PM   #70 
   He's WRONG  angee_is_mad   Jun-16-09 06:24 PM   #72 
   Did you really take my post seriously?  jgraz   Jun-16-09 06:58 PM   #73 
 

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