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Fri Jun-05-09 05:12 PM
Response to Reply #45 |
| 48. Nice catch. Not that it's all that hard to trip that one up. |
| -Hillary Clinton: Obama's 'turning point' |
babylonsister |
Jun-05-09 09:12 AM |
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I like her comments. She is not campaigning anymore. There is too much at stake. eom. |
geiger |
Jun-05-09 09:14 AM |
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I do, too. I'm so glad this relationship happened, and I was a doubter |
babylonsister |
Jun-05-09 09:16 AM |
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I think they developed respect for each other in the campaign. They were |
Captain Hilts |
Jun-05-09 09:28 AM |
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excellent points. |
geiger |
Jun-05-09 10:02 AM |
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Kerry was a far better candidate than HRC ever was |
karynnj |
Jun-05-09 10:27 AM |
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Hey, I'm in polling. I'm not basing my observations on emotions. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Jun-05-09 11:01 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jun-05-09 11:05 AM |
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I'm into FACTS - Fact: Clinton ran in 92 when Poppy Bush needed to lose and so ran a lousy campaign |
blm |
Jun-05-09 11:33 AM |
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Big Deal |
karynnj |
Jun-05-09 11:38 AM |
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Show us the "polling" that backs up your claims, then. |
ClarkUSA |
Jun-06-09 09:31 AM |
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You polling does not consider all the extenuating data nor does it consider the mood in the US. |
wisteria |
Jun-07-09 10:24 AM |
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Facts reinforce your impressions, as Kerry actually won the primary AND nearly won the presidency. |
ClarkUSA |
Jun-05-09 11:13 AM |
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Or as some of us maintain, WON the presidency. nt |
JerseygirlCT |
Jun-06-09 02:53 PM |
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Yes! n/t |
wisteria |
Jun-07-09 10:26 AM |
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The truth- yes, you are speaking the truth. I think most of us know why Clinton is where she is. n/t |
wisteria |
Jun-07-09 10:13 AM |
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Yes, the difference was she was given overwhelming support from the party |
wisteria |
Jun-07-09 10:18 AM |
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Bullshit - Kerry had to fight on his OWN with both Clintons siding with Bush and Bill defending |
blm |
Jun-05-09 10:21 AM |
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Not to mention - Kerry, a genuine war hero defended Bill Clinton when his patriotism was questioned |
karynnj |
Jun-05-09 10:38 AM |
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You have a point there. |
InAbLuEsTaTe |
Jun-07-09 09:36 AM |
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I guess that the guy whose first public appearance after his bypass |
Beacool |
Jun-05-09 11:29 AM |
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End of the campaign boiler plate stuff...nothing close to his VIGOROUS DEFENSE of Bush |
blm |
Jun-05-09 11:40 AM |
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End of campaign boiler plate stuff? |
Beacool |
Jun-05-09 11:44 AM |
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Did it make a difference? Kerry's years of work HELPED Clinton win 92. Bill's years supporting Bush |
blm |
Jun-05-09 11:52 AM |
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Exactly right. |
InAbLuEsTaTe |
Jun-07-09 09:38 AM |
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Hey - Read the thread in ORDER |
karynnj |
Jun-05-09 09:56 PM |
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No they don't... |
Baby Snooks |
Jun-07-09 10:09 AM |
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That appearance was all about Clinton letting everyone know he was alright, |
wisteria |
Jun-07-09 10:31 AM |
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Clinton fever.... |
quickesst |
Jun-06-09 07:52 AM |
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Bush may have been stupid - but he had significant help from the media |
karynnj |
Jun-06-09 09:13 AM |
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Kerry did - otherwise he wouldn't have done anywhere near as well as he did |
karynnj |
Jun-05-09 10:23 AM |
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Man. You've got an emotional stake in Sen. Kerry - and I too am |
Captain Hilts |
Jun-05-09 11:03 AM |
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Nothing I wrote here is anything other than factual and all can be backed by links |
karynnj |
Jun-05-09 11:47 AM |
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Luck, my ass!!!! |
Beacool |
Jun-05-09 11:40 AM |
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I don't notice you saying the same thing to the person who started this |
karynnj |
Jun-05-09 11:49 AM |
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Rules, like taxes, are only for the little people, don'tcha know?! |
InAbLuEsTaTe |
Jun-07-09 09:42 AM |
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I'll save this post for posterity |
CakeGrrl |
Jun-05-09 06:32 PM |
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Yes, because he, like apparently everyone else, can read Hillary's mind. |
Metric System |
Jun-06-09 12:59 AM |
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And I'm sure that so did she. |
Beacool |
Jun-06-09 01:38 AM |
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Obama is POTUS - 'game' over. n/t |
CakeGrrl |
Jun-06-09 03:31 PM |
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Gang, let's stop fighting the 2004 and 2008 races. |
Nedsdag |
Jun-06-09 12:25 PM |
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Beacool |
TheBigotBasher |
Jun-06-09 11:55 PM |
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nicely said |
karynnj |
Jun-07-09 10:41 AM |
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There has been a lot of PUMAesque revisionism |
TheBigotBasher |
Jun-07-09 02:05 PM |
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I think Obama always respected Hillary. |
InAbLuEsTaTe |
Jun-06-09 08:26 AM |
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Unwarranted attack on Gore and Kerry. They had the fire. Conditions were different. |
Mass |
Jun-06-09 10:21 AM |
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I agree - except |
JerseygirlCT |
Jun-06-09 02:52 PM |
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Your comment shows you have not actually followed the presidential campaigns |
wisteria |
Jun-07-09 10:16 AM |
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yes, ditto--excellent points! |
BlancheSplanchnik |
Jun-07-09 10:18 AM |
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No surprise here. |
Beacool |
Jun-05-09 09:25 AM |
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I always knew this would happen. |
ronnykmarshall |
Jun-05-09 10:15 AM |
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Yep, you said it. |
Beacool |
Jun-05-09 10:40 AM |
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Oh yeah. Convincing people of that here was a lost cause. |
joshcryer |
Jun-06-09 01:40 AM |
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thanks for posting |
democracy1st |
Jun-05-09 09:36 AM |
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Very nice job by the SoS |
Adelante |
Jun-05-09 09:53 AM |
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Countdown ....... 10....9.......8........7 |
ronnykmarshall |
Jun-05-09 10:10 AM |
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Congrats ... how does the earth look from where you are? |
TheCoxwain |
Jun-05-09 10:21 AM |
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Um ... it's raining? |
ronnykmarshall |
Jun-05-09 10:37 AM |
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It's raining here too. |
Beacool |
Jun-05-09 10:45 AM |
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Give it up |
nichomachus |
Jun-05-09 11:15 AM |
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These perennial Clinton attacks are getting even older. |
Beacool |
Jun-05-09 11:25 AM |
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Look at the root |
karynnj |
Jun-06-09 09:17 AM |
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Why I wrote the countdown. |
ronnykmarshall |
Jun-05-09 12:28 PM |
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"They always have to show up to piss on it" |
foo_bar |
Jun-05-09 03:05 PM |
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Nice catch. Not that it's all that hard to trip that one up. |
Number23 |
Jun-05-09 05:12 PM |
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That was his uncle's interview. |
Beacool |
Jun-05-09 05:18 PM |
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of course....and some of the past support of Bush's policies were done in interviews... |
blm |
Jun-05-09 06:23 PM |
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You don't think media that asks the questions and edits the results |
karynnj |
Jun-06-09 09:25 AM |
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Wow - that Fox News pushing an elderly great uncle |
karynnj |
Jun-06-09 09:23 AM |
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I figured there was a "story" behind the Faux News report that someone was so anxious to share. nt |
Flying Dream Blues |
Jun-06-09 04:08 PM |
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Yes, the usual suspects and all that. So tiresome! nt |
Flying Dream Blues |
Jun-06-09 01:30 PM |
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Nah, I think most people appreciate |
babylonsister |
Jun-05-09 10:40 AM |
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I agree. |
ronnykmarshall |
Jun-05-09 12:29 PM |
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That's true, and, it is HRC who had a turning point here with this statement and with the job Obama |
blm |
Jun-05-09 02:55 PM |
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Glad she had her own turning point - using her position FOR the right foreign policy instead of |
blm |
Jun-05-09 10:30 AM |
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Those are very clear and very strong words |
PBS Poll-435 |
Jun-05-09 10:42 AM |
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The title on this seems slightly off |
karynnj |
Jun-05-09 10:44 AM |
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Excellent point. It is exactly what he ran on, a theme he's punctuated for a long time. n/t |
AtomicKitten |
Jun-05-09 11:17 AM |
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I applaud HRC finally seeing that progressive foreign policy works and a leader doesn't HAVE to bow |
blm |
Jun-05-09 03:01 PM |
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I agree and am hugely relieved that Pres. Obama has set a new course. n/t |
AtomicKitten |
Jun-05-09 03:11 PM |
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It's never too late to learn my mom always said. |
InAbLuEsTaTe |
Jun-07-09 09:49 AM |
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Seems like it's more of a turning point for Hillary. If so, that's commendable. |
InAbLuEsTaTe |
Jun-07-09 09:47 AM |
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Why does a positive article about a very positive event become a flypaper thread? |
PBS Poll-435 |
Jun-05-09 11:37 AM |
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Because it's about Hillary. |
Beacool |
Jun-05-09 03:07 PM |
#46 |
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Some people will never let it go, even though the whole Obama-HRC thing was GOOD for Obama |
RollWithIt |
Jun-05-09 06:39 PM |
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Although a longer campaign may have helped him build skills in responding |
karynnj |
Jun-06-09 09:54 AM |
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And because of the extended primary season, Obama was READY to deal with the expected attacks |
PBS Poll-435 |
Jun-06-09 06:35 PM |
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Examine the root of the comments you dislike |
karynnj |
Jun-06-09 09:44 AM |
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That is divisive? OT? |
PBS Poll-435 |
Jun-06-09 06:32 PM |
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That you don't see it as divisive says everything |
karynnj |
Jun-07-09 10:28 AM |
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LOL |
PBS Poll-435 |
Jun-07-09 04:46 PM |
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Great words from Hillary |
scheming daemons |
Jun-05-09 11:37 AM |
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Excellent observation, |
Cha |
Jun-05-09 12:09 PM |
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Gee, Hillary, what if Israel had pursued a different path? |
DutchLiberal |
Jun-05-09 05:20 PM |
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Ok, she said violence..... that means suicide bombing, rockets into windows, etc |
RollWithIt |
Jun-05-09 06:42 PM |
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Eh, you think colonization, stealing land and resources is nothing? |
DutchLiberal |
Jun-07-09 07:08 AM |
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Exactly. |
Kaleko |
Jun-06-09 02:35 AM |
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Happy to see that Hillary recognizes |
Skidmore |
Jun-06-09 05:05 AM |
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Happy to see that Hillary recognizes |
Skidmore |
Jun-06-09 05:05 AM |
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Congrats to Hillary for coming around to Obama's way of thinking . . . |
InAbLuEsTaTe |
Jun-06-09 08:24 AM |
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Where in the interview does she say she was wrong? |
Beacool |
Jun-06-09 12:17 PM |
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Jun-06-09 01:23 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Jun-06-09 01:59 PM |
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"Obama hasn't meant (sic) with Ahmenidajad, has he?" No, but he's willing to, which is the point... |
ClarkUSA |
Jun-06-09 04:36 PM |
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You got it exactly right-no need 4 Hillary 2 apologize as long as she's on message w/ Obama. |
InAbLuEsTaTe |
Jun-06-09 11:17 PM |
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It was expected that as SoS she would be a reliable mouthpiece/cheerleader for the Obama Doctrine. |
ClarkUSA |
Jun-07-09 07:16 AM |
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I honestly didn't expect it on this critical issue & still worry about Hillary going her own way but |
InAbLuEsTaTe |
Jun-07-09 09:32 AM |
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I agree. |
AtomicKitten |
Jun-07-09 04:50 PM |
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You are exactly right. She didn't hold the view the author attibutes to her. Some here have |
Skip Intro |
Jun-06-09 07:13 PM |
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Thank you!!! |
Beacool |
Jun-06-09 11:08 PM |
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Oops, meant to say "met". |
Beacool |
Jun-06-09 11:10 PM |
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Whose "turning point" is it really? Sounds like Hillary is gung-ho for The Obama Doctrine now. |
ClarkUSA |
Jun-06-09 04:18 PM |
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Um, *who's* "turning point"? |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-06-09 02:05 PM |
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Great article, great words by Clinton. Don't know why some choose this thread to bash her. |
PresidentObama |
Jun-06-09 02:46 PM |
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I think both Clinton and Obama |
JerseygirlCT |
Jun-06-09 02:50 PM |
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Good point and one that |
Cha |
Jun-06-09 05:10 PM |
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Great quotes from a great woman in a misleading article. The author is full of shit. |
Skip Intro |
Jun-06-09 07:07 PM |
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'Clinton, it could be said, has found religion.' |
elleng |
Jun-07-09 07:35 AM |
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It was |
ErinBerin84 |
Jun-07-09 07:43 AM |
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Honestly, why ask the person who lost what kind of a job the winner is doing? |
wisteria |
Jun-07-09 10:11 AM |
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They are on the same team |
PBS Poll-435 |
Jun-07-09 04:47 PM |
#119 |
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