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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 09:25 AM
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3. No surprise here.
When Hillary chooses to be in a team she's a loyal team player. If she ever decided that their views were too divergent, she would simply resign.

All this drama and concern was just media generated.

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  -Hillary Clinton: Obama's 'turning point' babylonsister  Jun-05-09 09:12 AM   #0 
  - I like her comments. She is not campaigning anymore. There is too much at stake. eom.  geiger   Jun-05-09 09:14 AM   #1 
  - I do, too. I'm so glad this relationship happened, and I was a doubter  babylonsister   Jun-05-09 09:16 AM   #2 
     - I think they developed respect for each other in the campaign. They were  Captain Hilts   Jun-05-09 09:28 AM   #4 
        - excellent points.  geiger   Jun-05-09 10:02 AM   #7 
        - Kerry was a far better candidate than HRC ever was  karynnj   Jun-05-09 10:27 AM   #13 
           - Hey, I'm in polling. I'm not basing my observations on emotions. nt  Captain Hilts   Jun-05-09 11:01 AM   #22 
           - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jun-05-09 11:05 AM   #24 
           - I'm into FACTS - Fact: Clinton ran in 92 when Poppy Bush needed to lose and so ran a lousy campaign  blm   Jun-05-09 11:33 AM   #30 
           - Big Deal  karynnj   Jun-05-09 11:38 AM   #33 
           - Show us the "polling" that backs up your claims, then.  ClarkUSA   Jun-06-09 09:31 AM   #69 
           - You polling does not consider all the extenuating data nor does it consider the mood in the US.  wisteria   Jun-07-09 10:24 AM   #112 
           - Facts reinforce your impressions, as Kerry actually won the primary AND nearly won the presidency.  ClarkUSA   Jun-05-09 11:13 AM   #25 
           - Or as some of us maintain, WON the presidency. nt  JerseygirlCT   Jun-06-09 02:53 PM   #82 
              - Yes! n/t  wisteria   Jun-07-09 10:26 AM   #113 
           - The truth- yes, you are speaking the truth. I think most of us know why Clinton is where she is. n/t  wisteria   Jun-07-09 10:13 AM   #108 
           - Yes, the difference was she was given overwhelming support from the party  wisteria   Jun-07-09 10:18 AM   #110 
        - Bullshit - Kerry had to fight on his OWN with both Clintons siding with Bush and Bill defending  blm   Jun-05-09 10:21 AM   #10 
        - Not to mention - Kerry, a genuine war hero defended Bill Clinton when his patriotism was questioned  karynnj   Jun-05-09 10:38 AM   #16 
        - You have a point there.  InAbLuEsTaTe   Jun-07-09 09:36 AM   #101 
        - I guess that the guy whose first public appearance after his bypass  Beacool   Jun-05-09 11:29 AM   #29 
        - End of the campaign boiler plate stuff...nothing close to his VIGOROUS DEFENSE of Bush  blm   Jun-05-09 11:40 AM   #35 
        - End of campaign boiler plate stuff?  Beacool   Jun-05-09 11:44 AM   #36 
           - Did it make a difference? Kerry's years of work HELPED Clinton win 92. Bill's years supporting Bush  blm   Jun-05-09 11:52 AM   #39 
              - Exactly right.  InAbLuEsTaTe   Jun-07-09 09:38 AM   #102 
        - Hey - Read the thread in ORDER  karynnj   Jun-05-09 09:56 PM   #55 
        - No they don't...  Baby Snooks   Jun-07-09 10:09 AM   #106 
        - That appearance was all about Clinton letting everyone know he was alright,  wisteria   Jun-07-09 10:31 AM   #115 
        - Clinton fever....  quickesst   Jun-06-09 07:52 AM   #62 
           - Bush may have been stupid - but he had significant help from the media  karynnj   Jun-06-09 09:13 AM   #65 
        - Kerry did - otherwise he wouldn't have done anywhere near as well as he did  karynnj   Jun-05-09 10:23 AM   #12 
        - Man. You've got an emotional stake in Sen. Kerry - and I too am  Captain Hilts   Jun-05-09 11:03 AM   #23 
        - Nothing I wrote here is anything other than factual and all can be backed by links  karynnj   Jun-05-09 11:47 AM   #37 
        - Luck, my ass!!!!  Beacool   Jun-05-09 11:40 AM   #34 
           - I don't notice you saying the same thing to the person who started this  karynnj   Jun-05-09 11:49 AM   #38 
           - Rules, like taxes, are only for the little people, don'tcha know?!  InAbLuEsTaTe   Jun-07-09 09:42 AM   #103 
           - I'll save this post for posterity  CakeGrrl   Jun-05-09 06:32 PM   #52 
           - Yes, because he, like apparently everyone else, can read Hillary's mind.  Metric System   Jun-06-09 12:59 AM   #56 
           - And I'm sure that so did she.  Beacool   Jun-06-09 01:38 AM   #57 
              - Obama is POTUS - 'game' over. n/t  CakeGrrl   Jun-06-09 03:31 PM   #83 
           - Gang, let's stop fighting the 2004 and 2008 races.  Nedsdag   Jun-06-09 12:25 PM   #74 
           - Beacool  TheBigotBasher   Jun-06-09 11:55 PM   #95 
              - nicely said  karynnj   Jun-07-09 10:41 AM   #116 
                 - There has been a lot of PUMAesque revisionism  TheBigotBasher   Jun-07-09 02:05 PM   #117 
        - I think Obama always respected Hillary.  InAbLuEsTaTe   Jun-06-09 08:26 AM   #64 
        - Unwarranted attack on Gore and Kerry. They had the fire. Conditions were different.  Mass   Jun-06-09 10:21 AM   #72 
        - I agree - except  JerseygirlCT   Jun-06-09 02:52 PM   #81 
        - Your comment shows you have not actually followed the presidential campaigns  wisteria   Jun-07-09 10:16 AM   #109 
        - yes, ditto--excellent points!  BlancheSplanchnik   Jun-07-09 10:18 AM   #111 
  - No surprise here.  Beacool   Jun-05-09 09:25 AM   #3 
  - I always knew this would happen.  ronnykmarshall   Jun-05-09 10:15 AM   #9 
  - Yep, you said it.  Beacool   Jun-05-09 10:40 AM   #17 
  - Oh yeah. Convincing people of that here was a lost cause.  joshcryer   Jun-06-09 01:40 AM   #58 
  - thanks for posting  democracy1st   Jun-05-09 09:36 AM   #5 
  - Very nice job by the SoS  Adelante   Jun-05-09 09:53 AM   #6 
  - Countdown ....... 10....9.......8........7  ronnykmarshall   Jun-05-09 10:10 AM   #8 
  - Congrats ... how does the earth look from where you are?  TheCoxwain   Jun-05-09 10:21 AM   #11 
  - Um ... it's raining?  ronnykmarshall   Jun-05-09 10:37 AM   #15 
     - It's raining here too.  Beacool   Jun-05-09 10:45 AM   #21 
        - Give it up  nichomachus   Jun-05-09 11:15 AM   #26 
        - These perennial Clinton attacks are getting even older.  Beacool   Jun-05-09 11:25 AM   #28 
           - Look at the root  karynnj   Jun-06-09 09:17 AM   #66 
        - Why I wrote the countdown.  ronnykmarshall   Jun-05-09 12:28 PM   #41 
        - "They always have to show up to piss on it"  foo_bar   Jun-05-09 03:05 PM   #45 
           - Nice catch. Not that it's all that hard to trip that one up.  Number23   Jun-05-09 05:12 PM   #48 
           - That was his uncle's interview.  Beacool   Jun-05-09 05:18 PM   #49 
           - of course....and some of the past support of Bush's policies were done in interviews...  blm   Jun-05-09 06:23 PM   #51 
           - You don't think media that asks the questions and edits the results  karynnj   Jun-06-09 09:25 AM   #68 
           - Wow - that Fox News pushing an elderly great uncle  karynnj   Jun-06-09 09:23 AM   #67 
           - I figured there was a "story" behind the Faux News report that someone was so anxious to share. nt  Flying Dream Blues   Jun-06-09 04:08 PM   #84 
           - Yes, the usual suspects and all that. So tiresome! nt  Flying Dream Blues   Jun-06-09 01:30 PM   #76 
  - Nah, I think most people appreciate  babylonsister   Jun-05-09 10:40 AM   #18 
     - I agree.  ronnykmarshall   Jun-05-09 12:29 PM   #42 
     - That's true, and, it is HRC who had a turning point here with this statement and with the job Obama  blm   Jun-05-09 02:55 PM   #43 
  - Glad she had her own turning point - using her position FOR the right foreign policy instead of  blm   Jun-05-09 10:30 AM   #14 
  - Those are very clear and very strong words  PBS Poll-435   Jun-05-09 10:42 AM   #19 
  - The title on this seems slightly off  karynnj   Jun-05-09 10:44 AM   #20 
  - Excellent point. It is exactly what he ran on, a theme he's punctuated for a long time. n/t  AtomicKitten   Jun-05-09 11:17 AM   #27 
  - I applaud HRC finally seeing that progressive foreign policy works and a leader doesn't HAVE to bow  blm   Jun-05-09 03:01 PM   #44 
     - I agree and am hugely relieved that Pres. Obama has set a new course. n/t  AtomicKitten   Jun-05-09 03:11 PM   #47 
     - It's never too late to learn my mom always said.  InAbLuEsTaTe   Jun-07-09 09:49 AM   #105 
  - Seems like it's more of a turning point for Hillary. If so, that's commendable.  InAbLuEsTaTe   Jun-07-09 09:47 AM   #104 
  - Why does a positive article about a very positive event become a flypaper thread?  PBS Poll-435   Jun-05-09 11:37 AM   #31 
  - Because it's about Hillary.  Beacool   Jun-05-09 03:07 PM   #46 
  - Some people will never let it go, even though the whole Obama-HRC thing was GOOD for Obama  RollWithIt   Jun-05-09 06:39 PM   #53 
     - Although a longer campaign may have helped him build skills in responding  karynnj   Jun-06-09 09:54 AM   #71 
        - And because of the extended primary season, Obama was READY to deal with the expected attacks  PBS Poll-435   Jun-06-09 06:35 PM   #89 
  - Examine the root of the comments you dislike  karynnj   Jun-06-09 09:44 AM   #70 
     - That is divisive? OT?  PBS Poll-435   Jun-06-09 06:32 PM   #88 
        - That you don't see it as divisive says everything  karynnj   Jun-07-09 10:28 AM   #114 
           - LOL  PBS Poll-435   Jun-07-09 04:46 PM   #118 
  - Great words from Hillary  scheming daemons   Jun-05-09 11:37 AM   #32 
  - Excellent observation,  Cha   Jun-05-09 12:09 PM   #40 
  - Gee, Hillary, what if Israel had pursued a different path?  DutchLiberal   Jun-05-09 05:20 PM   #50 
  - Ok, she said violence..... that means suicide bombing, rockets into windows, etc  RollWithIt   Jun-05-09 06:42 PM   #54 
  - Eh, you think colonization, stealing land and resources is nothing?  DutchLiberal   Jun-07-09 07:08 AM   #96 
  - Exactly.  Kaleko   Jun-06-09 02:35 AM   #59 
  - Happy to see that Hillary recognizes  Skidmore   Jun-06-09 05:05 AM   #60 
  - Happy to see that Hillary recognizes  Skidmore   Jun-06-09 05:05 AM   #61 
  - Congrats to Hillary for coming around to Obama's way of thinking . . .  InAbLuEsTaTe   Jun-06-09 08:24 AM   #63 
  - Where in the interview does she say she was wrong?  Beacool   Jun-06-09 12:17 PM   #73 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-06-09 01:23 PM   #75 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-06-09 01:59 PM   #77 
  - "Obama hasn't meant (sic) with Ahmenidajad, has he?" No, but he's willing to, which is the point...  ClarkUSA   Jun-06-09 04:36 PM   #86 
  - You got it exactly right-no need 4 Hillary 2 apologize as long as she's on message w/ Obama.  InAbLuEsTaTe   Jun-06-09 11:17 PM   #94 
     - It was expected that as SoS she would be a reliable mouthpiece/cheerleader for the Obama Doctrine.  ClarkUSA   Jun-07-09 07:16 AM   #97 
        - I honestly didn't expect it on this critical issue & still worry about Hillary going her own way but  InAbLuEsTaTe   Jun-07-09 09:32 AM   #100 
           - I agree.  AtomicKitten   Jun-07-09 04:50 PM   #120 
  - You are exactly right. She didn't hold the view the author attibutes to her. Some here have  Skip Intro   Jun-06-09 07:13 PM   #91 
  - Thank you!!!  Beacool   Jun-06-09 11:08 PM   #92 
  - Oops, meant to say "met".  Beacool   Jun-06-09 11:10 PM   #93 
  - Whose "turning point" is it really? Sounds like Hillary is gung-ho for The Obama Doctrine now.  ClarkUSA   Jun-06-09 04:18 PM   #85 
  - Um, *who's* "turning point"?  BlooInBloo   Jun-06-09 02:05 PM   #78 
  - Great article, great words by Clinton. Don't know why some choose this thread to bash her.  PresidentObama   Jun-06-09 02:46 PM   #79 
  - I think both Clinton and Obama  JerseygirlCT   Jun-06-09 02:50 PM   #80 
  - Good point and one that  Cha   Jun-06-09 05:10 PM   #87 
  - Great quotes from a great woman in a misleading article. The author is full of shit.  Skip Intro   Jun-06-09 07:07 PM   #90 
  - 'Clinton, it could be said, has found religion.'  elleng   Jun-07-09 07:35 AM   #98 
  - It was  ErinBerin84   Jun-07-09 07:43 AM   #99 
  - Honestly, why ask the person who lost what kind of a job the winner is doing?  wisteria   Jun-07-09 10:11 AM   #107 
     - They are on the same team  PBS Poll-435   Jun-07-09 04:47 PM   #119 

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