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Sat May-30-09 08:30 AM
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| 8. His calculation is that Hillary will run in 2016. She didn't want to fully repeal DOMA last year... |
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Edited on Sat May-30-09 08:36 AM by ClarkUSA
... unlike President Obama. No doubt Hillary got Bubba's input on that political decision. So I'm not surprised at the parsing his position. Once a triangulator, always a triangulator.  |
| -President Clinton: My view on gay marriage "is evolving".. |
blueclown |
May-29-09 10:48 PM |
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You're assuming that he doesn't mean what he's saying. I believe that |
pnwmom |
May-29-09 10:54 PM |
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You see, when folks with Bill's history |
Bluenorthwest |
May-30-09 08:51 AM |
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Quite true. nt |
Dappleganger |
May-30-09 10:09 AM |
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We've all known Bill was full of it for years. Personally I want to know what President Carter think |
craigmatic |
May-30-09 09:54 PM |
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He is probably speaking his real thoughts |
Uzybone |
May-29-09 10:57 PM |
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This is from the President who signed DOMA. n/t |
ProSense |
May-29-09 11:03 PM |
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So, Harkins voted for DOMA, and is now in favor of gay marriage |
ShadowLiberal |
May-30-09 09:55 AM |
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so did Paul Wellstone |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 10:04 AM |
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So? |
ProSense |
May-30-09 06:44 PM |
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So? |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 06:46 PM |
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Oh, I guess you were pointing that out the other poster. |
ProSense |
May-30-09 06:59 PM |
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direct reply to the other poster but really for anyone who... |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 07:04 PM |
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"holds Clinton to a different standard." |
ProSense |
May-30-09 07:11 PM |
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It's that mentality I just mentioned |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 07:20 PM |
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That's nonsense: |
ProSense |
May-30-09 07:23 PM |
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you're using a "progressive" blog's editorial as proof of something? |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 07:29 PM |
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You're claiming Newsweek is a blog? |
ProSense |
May-30-09 07:33 PM |
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ameriblog is a blog. Do you disagree? |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 08:15 PM |
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Here: |
ProSense |
May-30-09 08:22 PM |
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here what? |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 08:30 PM |
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It had the Democratic votes because Clinton wanted it. |
ProSense |
May-30-09 08:35 PM |
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says who?? |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 08:38 PM |
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President's statement on DOMA |
ProSense |
May-30-09 08:46 PM |
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where does it say "It had the Democratic votes because Clinton wanted it?" |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 08:51 PM |
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Clinton wanted it. He said so himself. Didn't he? n/t |
ProSense |
May-30-09 08:56 PM |
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where does it say "It had the Democratic votes because Clinton wanted it?" |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 08:56 PM |
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I said that because Clinton wanted it? Didn't he? |
ProSense |
May-30-09 08:58 PM |
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have you shown Dems voted for it because Clinton wanted it? NO |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 09:03 PM |
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No, Clinton wanted it. |
ProSense |
May-30-09 09:07 PM |
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And progressive Dems voted for it. And Obama doesn't care to repeal it. That's cool with you. |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 09:08 PM |
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Pity you |
ProSense |
May-30-09 09:10 PM |
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Pity YOU |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 09:13 PM |
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Oh goody |
ProSense |
May-30-09 09:21 PM |
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so the white house webmaster acts independently of Obama? |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 09:24 PM |
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Do you believe |
ProSense |
May-30-09 09:26 PM |
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yes, I believe the Obama determines what goes on there. You have proof otherwise? |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 09:27 PM |
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So you think he pulled it down and quickly put it back up? |
ProSense |
May-30-09 09:29 PM |
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yes, you have proof otherwise? |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 09:30 PM |
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Do you have proof that it |
ProSense |
May-30-09 09:31 PM |
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no, but there's no indication of that. But there's proof the position changed on the website. |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 09:33 PM |
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Changed to what: |
ProSense |
May-30-09 09:36 PM |
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from... to this... |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 09:41 PM |
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"Obama's position suxs worse than Clinton's." |
ProSense |
May-30-09 09:46 PM |
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"Obama's position suxs worse than Clinton's." |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 09:48 PM |
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Three years seven months to undo Clinton's damage. n/t |
ProSense |
May-30-09 09:49 PM |
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with no indication that he wants to. |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 09:49 PM |
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LOL! n/t |
ProSense |
May-30-09 09:50 PM |
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LOL! n/t |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 09:51 PM |
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Clinton and Obama both suck on gay marriage. Don't you agree? Gay rights ARE civil rights. |
jesus_of_suburbia |
May-30-09 07:35 PM |
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"can you even admit that President Obama is wrong about anything?" |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 08:39 PM |
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Thanks. It's ridiculous how some posters attack the Clintons for everything and can't see the thorn |
jesus_of_suburbia |
May-30-09 08:48 PM |
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Ah, another disingenuous |
ProSense |
May-30-09 08:53 PM |
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Prosense has gone about 10 posts now without acknowledging Obama's position |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 09:14 PM |
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Wyldwolf's |
ProSense |
May-30-09 09:22 PM |
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that's #11 |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 09:23 PM |
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#12 n/t |
ProSense |
May-30-09 09:24 PM |
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Who the hell are you? n/t |
ProSense |
May-30-09 08:49 PM |
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who the hell are you? |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 08:52 PM |
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Someone |
ProSense |
May-30-09 08:54 PM |
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that's more descriptive of you... desperately obsessed. |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 08:54 PM |
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Yep, epic fail on so many levels. |
joshcryer |
May-31-09 02:18 PM |
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It's Harkin, and that has nothing to do with Clinton. n/t |
ProSense |
May-30-09 06:43 PM |
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When DOMA was passed and signed |
polmaven |
May-30-09 10:21 AM |
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Yep, most either don't know or gloss over the proposed Constitutional ban on gay marriage. |
Beacool |
May-30-09 12:47 PM |
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Beacool, I'm gay, and I realize that the 90's were a different time! |
jesus_of_suburbia |
May-30-09 08:52 PM |
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But bearing false witness to the entire nation |
Bluenorthwest |
May-30-09 08:59 AM |
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I was going to reply negatively, but then... |
bunkerbuster1 |
May-30-09 10:00 AM |
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Good gawd. Get a life. His |
snowdays |
May-30-09 10:12 AM |
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+ 1,000 |
BR_Parkway |
May-30-09 10:22 AM |
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Most Democrats who aren't elected officials tend to favor gay marriage |
Hippo_Tron |
May-30-09 03:11 PM |
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Just a note ... |
RoyGBiv |
May-31-09 12:10 AM |
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He calculates because he's a calculator. |
tomreedtoon |
May-29-09 11:08 PM |
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His calculation is that Hillary will run in 2016. She didn't want to fully repeal DOMA last year... |
ClarkUSA |
May-30-09 08:30 AM |
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Or 2012 |
Baby Snooks |
May-30-09 10:05 AM |
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silly |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 10:17 AM |
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More like typical |
polmaven |
May-30-09 10:26 AM |
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That's why it's better to ignore them. |
Beacool |
May-30-09 12:59 PM |
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If Hillary thought she could win, she'd run in 2012. But as long as President Obama is around... |
ClarkUSA |
May-30-09 01:18 PM |
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No she wouldn't. |
Beacool |
May-30-09 01:34 PM |
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Um, you obviously didn't read through what I said: "...as long as President Obama is around..." |
ClarkUSA |
May-30-09 01:54 PM |
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I can believe his views on sex and marriage have evolved... |
provis99 |
May-30-09 12:07 AM |
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Because his wife is SOS. |
Beacool |
May-30-09 12:48 AM |
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Obma's been all over the map |
Bluenorthwest |
May-30-09 09:14 AM |
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Obama will go whichever way helps him politically. |
Beacool |
May-30-09 12:38 PM |
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Really? Obama came out strongly against Prop 8 before the vote AND cut an ad for it, too. |
ClarkUSA |
May-30-09 01:05 PM |
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His speech in his liberal district didn't hurt him in 2002. |
Beacool |
May-30-09 01:13 PM |
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He was running a statewide Senate race with many not-so-liberal districts to be concerned about. |
ClarkUSA |
May-30-09 01:22 PM |
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Follow the news much? |
keepCAblue |
May-30-09 02:52 PM |
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More than you, apparently. |
ClarkUSA |
May-30-09 03:42 PM |
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Obama "cut an ad" against prop 8? I'd like a link to that please... |
keepCAblue |
May-30-09 07:27 PM |
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I gave you the link. Splitting hairs on semantics is a tired ol' red herring. |
ClarkUSA |
May-30-09 07:57 PM |
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LOL. "Splitting hairs" ... that's a duzy of a divide from reality. n/t |
keepCAblue |
May-30-09 08:18 PM |
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That's ironic, coming from someone who's litany of grievances have no basis in legislative reality. |
ClarkUSA |
May-31-09 08:00 AM |
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That's the famous ad???????? |
Beacool |
May-31-09 12:03 AM |
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How many Prop 8 ads did the Clintons appear in? Why doesn't Hillary want to fully repeal DOMA? |
ClarkUSA |
May-31-09 08:06 AM |
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Good points. Too bad Bill worries more about his popularity than doing the right thing. |
InAbLuEsTaTe |
May-30-09 08:20 AM |
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your spin on this story is a disgrace |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 10:02 AM |
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The cultural climate is a lot different now than it was under LBJ. |
Forkboy |
May-30-09 12:48 PM |
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no argument there |
wyldwolf |
May-30-09 02:08 PM |
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actually there was far less support for interracial marriage |
ruggerson |
May-30-09 07:07 PM |
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Honestly, who cares? |
ruggerson |
May-30-09 10:05 AM |
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"Nobody gives a rat's ass what past Presidents think." |
ProSense |
May-30-09 06:46 PM |
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other way around |
ruggerson |
May-30-09 07:02 PM |
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the people's views are evolving |
Enrique |
May-30-09 12:50 PM |
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I see my grandkids in MA ages 8, 11 and 14 and see the evolution before my very eyes. |
CTyankee |
May-30-09 01:14 PM |
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Peoples' views change over time. I use to think civil unions were fine but now think gay |
Jennicut |
May-30-09 01:44 PM |
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+1 Well said Jennicut! n/t |
bluedawg12 |
May-30-09 08:10 PM |
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The POTUS is irrelevant to gay marriage |
LittleBlue |
May-30-09 07:04 PM |
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Considering he would have to push for and sign a repeal to DOMA |
ruggerson |
May-30-09 07:08 PM |
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He's very relevant. |
bluedawg12 |
May-30-09 08:12 PM |
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Martin Luther King, Jr. disagrees with you: The President has the Power |
keepCAblue |
May-30-09 08:34 PM |
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Clinton says his attitude is evolving. Why not believe that? It is true |
MasonJar |
May-30-09 08:27 PM |
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Clinton's comments remind me of my late father |
Jackeens |
May-30-09 09:21 PM |
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Maybe Bill will marry Poppy Bush. Lord knows they look like they're in love. |
gauguin57 |
May-30-09 09:55 PM |
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What a steaming pantload. Shut the fuck up about this, Bill. |
Zavulon |
May-31-09 01:14 AM |
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IMO the issue is "rights" whether its "pursuing and obtaining safety, happiness, and privacy" or |
jody |
May-31-09 08:22 AM |
#115 |
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