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NYC_SKP

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Mon May-25-09 06:23 PM
Response to Reply #7

9. I don't think we can retroactively apply new "adjusted law" to past detentions.

I'm not saying I have a solution, just that I don't think this would work on those already detained.

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-"In our constitutional system, prolonged detention should not be the decision of any one man."	phleshdef	May-25-09 06:08 PM	#0
- We already know that	Old Hank	May-25-09 06:13 PM	#1
- If he truly gets the congress and the courts highly engaged...	phleshdef	May-25-09 06:19 PM	#6
- Arbitrary detention without trials or charges cannot be constitutional	Oregone	May-25-09 06:48 PM	#15
- On the surface, that should be the case	Thothmes	May-25-09 07:40 PM	#19
- True. A depraved Supreme Court upheld unconstitutional actions (creating legal precendence)	Oregone	May-25-09 08:44 PM	#22
- We will still use the Court to try and settle issues	Thothmes	May-26-09 04:43 AM	#30
- and it WON'T be arbitrary.	elleng	May-26-09 01:38 AM	#27
- Any detention without a trial and sentence is pretty much arbitrary, by nature	Oregone	May-26-09 04:57 AM	#31
- They're 'enemy combatants,' I think.	elleng	May-26-09 05:12 AM	#33
- prolonged detention itself is contrary to the Constitution AND international law	leftofthedial	May-25-09 06:13 PM	#2
- Where in the constitution does it define how long someone has to wait to be tried?	phleshdef	May-25-09 06:16 PM	#3
- Sixth Amendment	leftofthedial	May-25-09 06:24 PM	#11
- Sorry, but many of these cases are not 'criminal prosecutions.'	BzaDem	May-26-09 05:02 AM	#32
- Sorry back at you. They are one of the following:	leftofthedial	May-26-09 10:24 AM	#34
- You've heard the term "Speedy Trial"	atreides1	May-25-09 06:26 PM	#12
- Are these cases considered "criminal prosecutions"?	phleshdef	May-25-09 07:37 PM	#18
- 'These cases' will be unique	elleng	May-26-09 01:43 AM	#28
- LOL	Oregone	May-25-09 06:50 PM	#17
- He's the Unitary Executive. He can do whatever he wants n/t	leftstreet	May-25-09 06:16 PM	#4
- No he can't or he won't allow that. Or he wouldn't be any better than Bush, who did use that.	vaberella	May-25-09 06:26 PM	#13
- Pardon me.....but THEY WEREN"T MISTAKES	PretzelWarrior	May-26-09 01:46 AM	#29
- Exactly. Pres. Obama wants any WH plan to be subject to approval by Congress and the courts.	ClarkUSA	May-25-09 06:17 PM	#5
- The Rule of Law must be adjusted	atreides1	May-25-09 06:20 PM	#7
- I don't think we can retroactively apply new "adjusted law" to past detentions.	NYC_SKP	May-25-09 06:23 PM	#9
- We lock lots of people up without charging/convicting them of crimes.	boppers	May-25-09 09:15 PM	#23
- From all the critics, I've yet to read a SINGLE alternative solution.	NYC_SKP	May-25-09 06:21 PM	#8
- It's an extremely difficult situation. Since there is evidence.	vaberella	May-25-09 06:23 PM	#10
- And you just KNOW the Cons knew this would happen. The shit would stick to Obama...	NYC_SKP	May-25-09 06:46 PM	#14
- the only legal recourse is to either try them or let them go.	leftofthedial	May-25-09 06:49 PM	#16
- Try them in federal court. Try them in the Hague. If you can't do either, release them.	rug	May-25-09 07:40 PM	#20
- Actually, I think getting the UN involved with the Hague is a GREAT idea.	phleshdef	May-25-09 07:44 PM	#21
- I like that, good answer. Thanks. eom.	NYC_SKP	May-26-09 01:28 AM	#25
- Is America a "constitutional dictatorship"?	ProSense	May-25-09 09:20 PM	#24
- EXACTLY!	elleng	May-26-09 01:37 AM	#26

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