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Mon May-25-09 11:55 AM
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| 1. Why is Barbara Bush #8? Can't remember a single thing she ever did. And Betty Ford should |
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be higher up on the list, at least above Babs.
She did a lot, IMO, for bringing attention to the addiction/recovery.
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| -Ranking the First Ladies |
wyldwolf |
May-25-09 11:49 AM |
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Why is Barbara Bush #8? Can't remember a single thing she ever did. And Betty Ford should |
rvablue |
May-25-09 11:55 AM |
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"Doug Wead, a conservative historian and former advisor to two Republican presidents"... |
Robeson |
May-25-09 12:10 PM |
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But Barbara Bush is VERY 'rank'--- you gotta give her that., |
beac |
May-25-09 12:16 PM |
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Agreed- Betty Ford was a decent human being.. |
Silence Dogood |
May-25-09 02:07 PM |
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sorry, Eleanor over Hillary by a mile |
Uzybone |
May-25-09 12:04 PM |
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Abigail Adams was a real feminist when women had no rights or personhood |
lunatica |
May-25-09 01:04 PM |
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Agreed. I felt HRC was a 3. Abigail and Eleanor definitely move up. n/t |
vaberella |
May-25-09 01:20 PM |
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Absolutely. Eleanor contributed to world peace and social justice, |
Radical Activist |
May-25-09 02:17 PM |
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Why don't you get a life? |
MoonRiver |
May-26-09 09:23 AM |
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where the hell is Jacqueline Kennedy on the list |
sarah553807 |
May-25-09 12:19 PM |
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Here is a survey that asks history professors from America's colleges & universities: |
mod mom |
May-25-09 12:23 PM |
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Read much? |
wyldwolf |
May-25-09 12:35 PM |
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I think Hillary & her husband are corporatist opportunists, here's one reason why: |
mod mom |
May-25-09 12:44 PM |
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of course you do. But that has nothing to do with the ability to read an OP |
wyldwolf |
May-25-09 12:47 PM |
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Diplomats are nothing if not opportunists. |
denem |
May-25-09 12:52 PM |
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I saw who posted it and figured it was more pro Clinton tripe... |
mod mom |
May-25-09 01:25 PM |
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ha ha! WRONG! |
wyldwolf |
May-25-09 07:43 PM |
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most people i know |
mod mom |
May-25-09 08:51 PM |
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Same old story with the kooks on the left. |
Beacool |
May-25-09 10:59 PM |
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You mean the "kooks" who overwhelmingly backed Obama OVER the must more known |
mod mom |
May-26-09 12:57 PM |
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Overwhelmingly? |
Beacool |
May-27-09 12:10 AM |
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you have a very small circle of acquaintances |
wyldwolf |
May-26-09 08:26 AM |
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Our assoications are very self-selecting and not representative of the general population. nt |
Captain Hilts |
May-26-09 09:04 AM |
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Well, Eleanor Roosevelt is certainly the greatest woman of the 20th Century. Harry Truman said |
Captain Hilts |
May-25-09 11:07 PM |
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It's funny this survey comes from Loudonville, NY... |
Captain Hilts |
May-25-09 11:12 PM |
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Umm. Eleanor Roosevelt, coauthored the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, |
denem |
May-25-09 12:26 PM |
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Helped get Jews out of Europe, fought for equality of women and blacks - |
Captain Hilts |
May-25-09 11:04 PM |
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like dumping a bleeding bovine carcass in shark infested waters, the Clinton haters are coming! |
demhistorian |
May-25-09 12:49 PM |
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actually, it was a bleeding Anchovy! |
Silence Dogood |
May-25-09 02:21 PM |
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I don't agree with the first ranking at all. I agree with the Sienna College research one. n/t |
vaberella |
May-25-09 01:21 PM |
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Eleanor Roosevelt sets the standard |
Kaleva |
May-25-09 01:25 PM |
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Id put Eleanor 1, Abigail 2, and HRC 3. |
MadBadger |
May-25-09 02:14 PM |
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I'd place Lady Bird higher |
Radical Activist |
May-25-09 02:21 PM |
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Me too. nt |
Captain Hilts |
May-25-09 11:07 PM |
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If this is a most effective first ladies poll then Eleanor should win hands down. |
book_worm |
May-25-09 02:21 PM |
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Jackie Kennedy would be way up there on my list |
goclark |
May-25-09 03:05 PM |
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A list that includes Babs and does not include Jackie is suspect to me |
AwakeAtLast |
May-25-09 08:40 PM |
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This poll is way off the mark IMO nt |
goclark |
May-25-09 08:55 PM |
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She really disliked being first lady, dodged a lot of events and they'd call in Ethel K |
Captain Hilts |
May-25-09 11:08 PM |
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If Barbara Bush could be # 8, Jackie Kennedy |
goclark |
May-26-09 09:13 AM |
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Indeed! BB's Claim to Fame is being Not Nancy. nt |
Captain Hilts |
May-26-09 09:19 AM |
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It's too 20th Cent. heavy. Sarah Polk?!?! Eleanor is tops. Then Madison or Adams. nt |
Captain Hilts |
May-25-09 11:03 PM |
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There have been some great first ladies, |
Beacool |
May-25-09 11:03 PM |
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Being 'accomplished' and being 'great' are different standards. Ideally, they overlap... |
Captain Hilts |
May-26-09 09:03 AM |
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True. |
Beacool |
May-26-09 09:08 AM |
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I encourage folks to click on the Siena College link and read the six page release that ranks them |
Captain Hilts |
May-26-09 12:18 PM |
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