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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 01:37 PM
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50. Thank you for that report. This state really does pay in

Also there are laws on the books that demand that the Federal Government pay out for every newly arrived immigrant that is taken in. The Feds have never honored that agreement. Not for decades.

Those monies alone, had they been paid off in a timely manner rather than being ignored, would have kept the state afloat.
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  -Keep an eye on Califronia and the other state budgets AllentownJake  May-24-09 03:22 PM   #0 
  - California destroyed itself with selfish ballot initiatives. They'd make Ayn Rand blush.  billyoc   May-24-09 03:33 PM   #1 
  - This is happening in every other state just to a lesser extent  AllentownJake   May-24-09 03:42 PM   #2 
  - Few states were quite as irresponsible as California.  Zynx   May-24-09 04:23 PM   #8 
     - California needs a new state constitution  AllentownJake   May-24-09 04:26 PM   #9 
     - Of course, but to be fair, a lot of states spent far beyond their ability to raise revenue  Zynx   May-24-09 04:33 PM   #10 
     - Bill O Reilly said the same thing when Languna Beach had their landslides....  unapatriciated   May-24-09 04:46 PM   #11 
     - If California is unwilling to tax itself sufficiently to pay for services, then I say fine.  Zynx   May-24-09 05:27 PM   #13 
        - If CA received 90 back for every dollar it sent to the Feds, we'd have  stopbush   May-24-09 07:03 PM   #18 
           - Those numbers are all well and good but don't tell us much.  Zynx   May-24-09 07:34 PM   #21 
           - Those numbers are no more obtuse than any other number - or opinion -  stopbush   May-25-09 09:29 PM   #59 
           - That's kind of funny coming from someone with a Michigan avatar.  LooseWilly   May-26-09 12:56 AM   #62 
           - Thank you for that report. This state really does pay in  truedelphi   May-25-09 01:37 PM   #50 
     - And how do states get money into their general funds? See my post #18 above.  stopbush   May-24-09 07:05 PM   #19 
     - Those numbers don't really address the problems.  Zynx   May-24-09 07:59 PM   #24 
     - You do realize that California had to piss away it's surpluses to cope with Enron frauds?...  LooseWilly   May-26-09 12:49 AM   #61 
  - I was ONE when Prop 13 passed  XemaSab   May-25-09 01:55 PM   #52 
  - Bill Maher said it best last Friday that California is governed by initiatives.  Cleita   May-24-09 03:48 PM   #3 
  - Funny on a municipal level in PA I just ran into a similar thing  AllentownJake   May-24-09 03:53 PM   #4 
  - Is it possible that the low property taxes are responsible  Jane Austin   May-24-09 03:56 PM   #5 
  - It's not only possible but a direct result of it. After the Jarvis Amendment  Cleita   May-24-09 04:08 PM   #6 
  - I've never heard that mentioned as a cause,  Jane Austin   May-24-09 05:38 PM   #14 
     - I never made the connection myself while it was happening. It seemed like  Cleita   May-24-09 06:45 PM   #15 
  - Definitely  nichomachus   May-25-09 07:34 AM   #44 
  - Thanks.  Jane Austin   May-25-09 11:25 AM   #47 
     - I don't think  nichomachus   May-25-09 11:31 AM   #48 
        - Hehe... let me guess... she thinks the city should pay for the bureaucracy that administers...  LooseWilly   May-26-09 01:06 AM   #64 
           - I don't think the process is that complex  nichomachus   May-26-09 10:41 AM   #69 
  - Yes and no, Jane Austin. The people who have owned homes get by  truedelphi   May-25-09 01:41 PM   #51 
  - Rolling back Prop 13 only hurts the middle class.  cboy4   May-24-09 07:09 PM   #20 
  - BS. Take your RW talking points somewhere else. I've heard them all and  Cleita   May-24-09 08:11 PM   #25 
  - Yea, rolling back Prop 13 will let students get a "quality college  cboy4   May-24-09 08:37 PM   #28 
     - Being opposed to raising taxes when taxes are too low to support services is irrational.  Zynx   May-24-09 08:42 PM   #29 
     - If I was convinced changing the formula for those who have  cboy4   May-24-09 09:13 PM   #31 
        - It won't solve everything, but it will help.  Zynx   May-24-09 09:19 PM   #32 
           - It won't help. That's what they said about the tax increases  cboy4   May-24-09 09:51 PM   #38 
              - I'd like to see what would happen if you put up the necessary spending cuts.  Zynx   May-24-09 10:22 PM   #41 
              - Hate to say it cboy, but prop 13 really did screw California into the ground.  LooseWilly   May-26-09 02:01 AM   #66 
     - God those RW talking points just keep coming.  Cleita   May-24-09 09:01 PM   #30 
     - Oh, so only the "uber riche" are benefiting from Prop 13.  cboy4   May-24-09 09:25 PM   #33 
        - Give me a break. You have no idea what real Democrats believe in and  Cleita   May-24-09 09:34 PM   #34 
        - Sorry, but I don't consider radical, far left wing, Code Pink  cboy4   May-24-09 09:42 PM   #36 
           - Excuse me but you don't besmirch the Code Pink ladies to me.  Cleita   May-24-09 09:59 PM   #39 
              - Interrupting committee hearings and dressing up in nutty  cboy4   May-24-09 10:29 PM   #43 
        - Here's one for you laddie that I posted in the California Forum.  Cleita   May-24-09 09:37 PM   #35 
           - Another post, blasting the rich, while using Republicans as  cboy4   May-24-09 09:46 PM   #37 
              - You don't know what you are talking about anymore. You just want to  Cleita   May-24-09 10:03 PM   #40 
                 - There's a difference between protesting and crossing the line.  cboy4   May-24-09 10:24 PM   #42 
     - My mom went to UC Berkeley for $200 a semester  XemaSab   May-25-09 02:15 PM   #54 
  - Then the state will continue to rot.  Zynx   May-24-09 08:17 PM   #27 
  - Cboy, simplistic, rolling back the corporate tax freezes would not hurt the middle class  CreekDog   May-25-09 08:43 AM   #46 
  - What constitutes a mansion?  XemaSab   May-25-09 02:02 PM   #53 
     - 600 to 700K in parts of California are lower middle class.  Cleita   May-26-09 12:22 AM   #60 
        - I've seen listings for 300K houses in the "ghettoes" of East Oakland...  LooseWilly   May-26-09 02:16 AM   #67 
  - We've sent unprecedented amounts of money to the states.  Zynx   May-24-09 04:18 PM   #7 
  - I don't know where those figures are coming from, but they  cboy4   May-24-09 05:01 PM   #12 
  - I don't know where your figure is coming from either, maybe Arnold's ass.  Cleita   May-24-09 06:46 PM   #16 
     - I'm talking about the deficit figures .. not how much and where  cboy4   May-24-09 07:02 PM   #17 
        - If your not sure what my point is and I think I was pretty unambiguous about  Cleita   May-24-09 08:16 PM   #26 
  - Grover Norquist is getting what he wanted: CA managed to starve the beast.  Catshrink   May-24-09 07:44 PM   #22 
  - Exactly -- CA is just the canary in the coal mine -- this will spread to all other states  nichomachus   May-25-09 07:35 AM   #45 
  - California is screwed big time...  Imajika   May-24-09 07:45 PM   #23 
  - Do you have any evidence that the rich are leaving? (n/t)  Luminous Animal   May-25-09 11:44 AM   #49 
     - Just articles I have read and seen discussed...  Imajika   May-25-09 02:44 PM   #56 
        - So your answer is no. You have no evidence.  Luminous Animal   May-26-09 01:01 AM   #63 
        - You think the people in Malibu and Brentwood are going to move to Phoenix to save money in taxes?  CreekDog   May-26-09 01:49 AM   #65 
        - Hehe... your analysis is very theoretically interesting.  LooseWilly   May-26-09 02:31 AM   #68 
  - CA voters brought these draconian cuts on themselves. They need to lose the initiative  book_worm   May-25-09 02:19 PM   #55 
  - The People of Californian sowed thier anti-tax BS and now they are reaping what they sowed.  Odin2005   May-25-09 04:04 PM   #57 
     - This *guy*/Californian was 7 when Prop. 13 was passed  CreekDog   May-25-09 05:55 PM   #58 

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