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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 04:13 PM
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73. I do agree that defining exactly what it might be.
Is contrary to faith, and in truth you never really do know. But that gives you the choice to believe based on what you want to believe. Or to even choose not to believe.

I came to the decision, I would choose that it is the better light, love, goodness, mercy, and kindness, and try to ignore anything else. Not knowing for sure, is a part of free will also.

That is a choice that is part of my faith. And I accept that others believe differently.

:hug: but no hard feelings
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  -I turned the speech off after Obama told the world how he found christ ensho  May-18-09 10:22 AM   #0 
  - That's too bad. You missed a great speech. nt  babylonsister   May-18-09 10:23 AM   #1 
  - Doing good works as a Christian is not the same as God telling one things.  NYCGirl   May-18-09 10:23 AM   #2 
  - whoa. disjointed rambling. you  cali   May-18-09 10:23 AM   #3 
  - they are connected  ensho   May-18-09 10:24 AM   # 
  - that they're connected in your mind  cali   May-18-09 10:26 AM   #7 
  - Those who disagree are either fiends or insane  PurityOfEssence   May-18-09 10:30 AM   #11 
  - sorry, that post was non-sensical  cali   May-18-09 10:34 AM   #16 
     - and telling someone they 'need help'  iamthebandfanman   May-18-09 10:49 AM   #23 
  - yikes.  iamthebandfanman   May-18-09 10:34 AM   #15 
  - You should have really listened to the speech.  countingbluecars   May-18-09 10:24 AM   #4 
  - Hooray for (in)tolerance and (small)mindedness...  jefferson_dem   May-18-09 10:25 AM   #5 
  - Exactly. Religious bigotry is the one I see most blatantly on this site  Number23   May-18-09 04:42 PM   #78 
  - He also talked about listening to people whose beliefs are different from ours  graywarrior   May-18-09 10:26 AM   #6 
  - Different from ours?  Baby Snooks   May-19-09 11:30 AM   #84 
  - Oh the irony. nt  anonymous171   May-19-09 12:23 PM   #85 
  - What? You thought he was an atheist?  prolesunited   May-18-09 10:26 AM   #8 
  - of course I knew, but it was a bit much for our prez to tell the world how  ensho   May-18-09 10:45 AM   #20 
  - What about Clinton and Carter?  Political Tiger   May-18-09 10:48 AM   #22 
  - why would he "leave Christ at the doorstep of the Oval Office"  CreekDog   May-18-09 04:14 PM   #74 
  - Has any president?  Drunken Irishman   May-18-09 04:23 PM   #76 
  - Where were you during the election?  RaleighNCDUer   May-18-09 01:21 PM   #55 
  - "Obama isn't an atheist, and screw fuel efficiency."  Occam Bandage   May-18-09 10:28 AM   #9 
  - that's not what I said, read it again  ensho   May-18-09 10:49 AM   #24 
     - So let me amend it:  Occam Bandage   May-18-09 10:51 AM   #25 
     - Occam you are such a sweetie  ensho   May-18-09 10:53 AM   #28 
     - Of course it's too late - the melting would continue if everyone stopped  RaleighNCDUer   May-18-09 01:24 PM   #58 
     - companies, not companys FYI  snooper2   May-18-09 01:44 PM   #65 
  - I take it you had no use for Dr. Martin Luther King either.  onenote   May-18-09 10:30 AM   #10 
  - i guess atheism is the new litmus test for left street cred.  mkultra   May-18-09 11:28 AM   #39 
  - Which is funny because I have met plenty of RW atheists  anonymous171   May-19-09 12:24 PM   #86 
  - Dr King neved used his faith  Bluenorthwest   May-18-09 12:56 PM   #51 
     - thanks for the non-sequitur  onenote   May-18-09 01:16 PM   #54 
  - And telling someone things does not have to be  RandomThoughts   May-18-09 10:31 AM   #12 
  - its a fantasy in the head  ensho   May-18-09 10:52 AM   #27 
  - The whole concept of what a supposed deity does or doesn't do  Arugula Latte   May-18-09 10:54 AM   #30 
     - so lets summarize  mkultra   May-18-09 11:31 AM   #40 
     - Are you saying that #2 is what I'm implying?  Arugula Latte   May-18-09 12:27 PM   #44 
     - All religion starts with the assumption that a supernatural being exists  mkultra   May-18-09 01:04 PM   #53 
     - Actually a more accurate summary might be:  RaleighNCDUer   May-18-09 01:29 PM   #59 
        - yeah, i misread his post. egg on my face  mkultra   May-18-09 01:39 PM   #64 
        - Scrambled, no doubt.  RaleighNCDUer   May-18-09 01:46 PM   #66 
        - Whether there is a supreme being does probably matter  CreekDog   May-18-09 04:22 PM   #75 
           - However, some people who are Christians have a get-out-of-jail free mentality.  Arugula Latte   May-18-09 04:43 PM   #79 
           - Morality has nothing to do with religion.  RaleighNCDUer   May-19-09 11:13 AM   #81 
     - I do agree that defining exactly what it might be.  RandomThoughts   May-18-09 04:13 PM   #73 
  - wanna go fishing? n/t  rufus dog   May-18-09 10:32 AM   #13 
  - no, a specie of tuna will be gone next yr. reports reveal  ensho   May-18-09 10:57 AM   #31 
  - He was speaking at a religious institution  JSK   May-18-09 10:33 AM   #14 
  - I know, right? How dare he talk about anything else?!  redqueen   May-18-09 10:35 AM   #17 
  - Well, I have to admit I was very disappointed he did not....  Spazito   May-18-09 01:24 PM   #57 
  - Obama never said God 'tells him things.'  Political Tiger   May-18-09 10:39 AM   #18 
  - He's been quite open about his faith.  TwilightZone   May-18-09 10:39 AM   #19 
  - y'know, it is perfectly ok to talk about your own religion  Tarc   May-18-09 10:45 AM   #21 
  - LOL  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-18-09 10:52 AM   #26 
  - that made me laugh out loud  ensho   May-18-09 10:59 AM   #33 
  - Who said anything about voices?  Life Long Dem   May-18-09 01:47 PM   #67 
  - You missed a magnificent speech. Too bad. n/t  quiller4   May-18-09 10:53 AM   #29 
  - I'm an atheist, and I loved his speech.  liberalmuse   May-18-09 10:57 AM   #32 
  - Wow-how tolerant of you! He's nothing like Bush. I LOVED his speech. And I'm an atheist.  jenmito   May-18-09 11:06 AM   #34 
  - How do you know that?  snowdays   May-18-09 12:23 PM   #43 
     - The best we can do is act in accordance with those things that are possible for all of us to know  Aloha Spirit   May-18-09 12:41 PM   #45 
     - LOL  snowdays   May-18-09 12:48 PM   #47 
        - ?  Aloha Spirit   May-18-09 12:51 PM   #48 
     - Because he believes in science unlike Bush.  jenmito   May-18-09 02:03 PM   #69 
  - Disgruntled much?  lamp_shade   May-18-09 11:12 AM   #35 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-18-09 11:13 AM   #36 
  - You probably don't like the intolerance of the right to respect your right to have no religion  ellacott   May-18-09 11:18 AM   #37 
  - Obama is intolerant of marriage equality, so what is your  Bluenorthwest   May-18-09 01:02 PM   #52 
     - Where did I mention Obama? My point is....  ellacott   May-18-09 02:48 PM   #72 
  - Who cares?  Bobbie Jo   May-18-09 11:23 AM   #38 
  - HAHAHA dontcha love attention seeking posters???  HopeOverFear   May-18-09 02:17 PM   #70 
  - Where were you during the elections?  JuniperLea   May-18-09 11:38 AM   #41 
  - Actually, ice melting might have a lot to do with the price of strawberries  RaleighNCDUer   May-18-09 01:34 PM   #61 
     - *SNORT*  JuniperLea   May-18-09 01:38 PM   #63 
  - So Obama talks about Christianity in front of students who attend a Christian (catholic) school  LynneSin   May-18-09 11:41 AM   #42 
  - good for you! *hands you a cookie*  HopeOverFear   May-18-09 12:45 PM   #46 
  - That's too bad. You missed a good speech. The people outside  firedupdem   May-18-09 12:53 PM   #49 
  - Oh, for fuck's sake  Adelante   May-18-09 12:54 PM   #50 
  - Ah, so the part about "doubt" in that faith being the arena of civil discourse missed you  jberryhill   May-18-09 01:22 PM   #56 
  - Now that's narrow minded.  Renew Deal   May-18-09 01:32 PM   #60 
  - Oh for heaven's sake!  redwitch   May-18-09 01:36 PM   #62 
  - if someone doesn't see the difference between Obama and bu$h* .....too sad  spanone   May-18-09 01:54 PM   #68 
  - How intolerant of you. You must be proud.  Pirate Smile   May-18-09 02:19 PM   #71 
  - Where did he find him?  CJCRANE   May-18-09 04:35 PM   #77 
  - Brother...............  newinnm   May-18-09 04:46 PM   #80 
  - No, the rest of the world snickered at this:  NYCGirl   May-19-09 11:17 AM   #82 
  - He was at NOTRE DAME, Brother.  Bobbie Jo   May-19-09 11:17 AM   #83 
  - He was "on our country's business"?  cherokeeprogressive   May-19-09 12:32 PM   #88 
  - You do realize that he was speaking at a CHRISTIAN university?  Freddie Stubbs   May-19-09 12:27 PM   #87 

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