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Mon May-18-09 02:16 AM
Response to Reply #21 |
| 37. Yeah, I'd still vote for him |
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but I'm just not as optimistic as I was at first
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| -The Record So Far, Have We Been Deceived? |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 01:14 AM |
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Well, the stem cell thing is pretty cool n/t |
leftstreet |
May-18-09 01:19 AM |
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LOL!! That speech fucked you up today? n/t |
firedupdem |
May-18-09 01:19 AM |
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This is the same stuff I've seen RWers use. Pushing the, "guilt by association" meme. |
vaberella |
May-18-09 01:19 AM |
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Yes, it does echo the substance of the opposition's arguments. |
MADem |
May-18-09 01:27 AM |
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Took me most of the day |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 01:45 AM |
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I can be specific--the record "so far"--he's been in the job, what, under four months? |
MADem |
May-18-09 02:00 AM |
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"Four months" has nothing to do with answering his question. |
ThomCat |
May-18-09 02:10 AM |
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I answered it just below, in post sixty three, to suit you. |
MADem |
May-18-09 07:29 AM |
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it directly applies to the "gitmo closed in a year" slam |
mkultra |
May-18-09 09:36 AM |
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I can definitely concede the intelligence point |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 02:24 AM |
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4 months, 4 years |
tavalon |
May-18-09 06:56 AM |
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Do it with us or be quiet.??? |
MADem |
May-18-09 07:17 AM |
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Yes, do it with us or be quiet. That is what I said. |
tavalon |
May-18-09 07:23 AM |
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The complaints in the OP are bullshit, for the reasons I have stated. |
MADem |
May-18-09 07:43 AM |
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You'll have to try harder. |
moodforaday |
May-18-09 08:44 PM |
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May-18-09 10:03 PM |
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Sorry you think this way. |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 11:06 PM |
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Nothing wrong with pointing out genuine differences. But bullshit |
MADem |
May-18-09 11:10 PM |
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So you seriously don't see any problems |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 11:39 PM |
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I didn't say that. But this litany of non-sins is total bullshit. |
MADem |
May-18-09 11:51 PM |
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I would like her a LOT better |
Kalun D |
May-19-09 12:00 AM |
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That's pretty idiotic. Greenpeace doesn't pollute. I'd rather have someone who |
MADem |
May-19-09 12:06 AM |
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You are assuming a lot |
Kalun D |
May-19-09 12:16 AM |
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May-19-09 09:52 AM |
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real criticism |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 08:18 PM |
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May-18-09 10:06 PM |
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GOOD |
Kalun D |
May-19-09 03:13 AM |
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That's good... |
Life Long Dem |
May-18-09 03:34 PM |
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Thank you for your time with this. |
truedelphi |
May-19-09 01:11 AM |
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You're welcome |
Kalun D |
May-19-09 02:22 AM |
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And they are fond of saying he is not a legitimate, born in America citizen |
truedelphi |
May-19-09 01:24 PM |
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These are the promises he made to us, his base, that he has |
ThomCat |
May-18-09 01:30 AM |
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Wait... |
vaberella |
May-18-09 01:32 AM |
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The promise |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 02:37 AM |
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So the FED has lobbyists? WTH? |
vaberella |
May-18-09 02:45 AM |
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The pledge was |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 08:10 PM |
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the fed is not a private bank |
mkultra |
May-18-09 09:39 AM |
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quasi--having some resemblance |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 09:46 PM |
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Does this seem accurate to you? |
firedupdem |
May-18-09 01:36 AM |
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I remember the talk about the bill before it was released |
ThomCat |
May-18-09 01:44 AM |
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He went to Hawaii on his own dime with his family during Christmas.. |
firedupdem |
May-18-09 01:47 AM |
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The vacation ... |
RoyGBiv |
May-18-09 01:54 AM |
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the reference |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 02:33 AM |
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Then you have your facts confused ... |
RoyGBiv |
May-18-09 02:34 AM |
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but you can't say |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 02:41 AM |
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Here's the deal ... |
RoyGBiv |
May-18-09 08:42 AM |
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Your word count |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 08:24 PM |
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You probably don't remember it because it didn't happen. |
Doremus |
May-18-09 08:11 AM |
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Actually, not ... |
RoyGBiv |
May-18-09 01:53 AM |
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Be specific |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 02:26 AM |
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the bank bailout is a glaring hole in your diatribe |
mkultra |
May-18-09 09:40 AM |
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??? |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 08:27 PM |
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had nothing to do with the financial industry... |
stillcool |
May-18-09 09:43 PM |
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LOL |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 09:49 PM |
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No...it is government money.. |
stillcool |
May-18-09 10:02 PM |
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Looked at the deficit and debt lately? |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 11:11 PM |
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If you want to continue to argue.. |
stillcool |
May-19-09 10:19 AM |
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Ah yes, trying to compare DU'ers we don't agree with as "right wingers" |
slay |
May-18-09 06:35 AM |
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This from someone who has a picture of that thing |
Generator |
May-18-09 08:22 PM |
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Oh I'm fully aware of who Tweety is... |
vaberella |
May-18-09 09:07 PM |
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I stopped reading at George Mitchell, top lobbyist...... |
FrenchieCat |
May-18-09 01:23 AM |
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Why? |
ThomCat |
May-18-09 01:34 AM |
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Because it's false? |
RoyGBiv |
May-18-09 01:50 AM |
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What in that OP is false? |
ThomCat |
May-18-09 02:02 AM |
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George Mitchell ... |
RoyGBiv |
May-18-09 02:09 AM |
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Wrong |
SpartanDem |
May-18-09 03:41 PM |
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Thanks for the insult. It isn't appreciated, but then |
FrenchieCat |
May-18-09 01:59 AM |
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As often as you insult people |
ThomCat |
May-18-09 02:11 AM |
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Prove it! |
FrenchieCat |
May-18-09 02:31 AM |
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In this very thread |
CrawlingChaos |
May-18-09 03:11 PM |
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You are saying these things, |
FrenchieCat |
May-18-09 03:49 PM |
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LOL! |
CrawlingChaos |
May-18-09 04:06 PM |
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There you go, corrected. |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 01:41 AM |
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Okay. I'm just going to pick out one little thing: The Crash of '29 was intentional? |
Zynx |
May-18-09 01:30 AM |
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May-18-09 02:00 AM |
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Webster G. Tarpley |
RoyGBiv |
May-18-09 02:33 AM |
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Well if you have anything other than ad-hominem |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 02:40 AM |
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Ah, I was expecting this ... |
RoyGBiv |
May-18-09 09:05 AM |
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when you have anything other than ad hominem |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 09:38 PM |
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When you can provide a critique ... |
RoyGBiv |
May-19-09 01:29 AM |
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You argue |
Kalun D |
May-19-09 02:28 AM |
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That didn't take as long as I expected ... |
RoyGBiv |
May-19-09 03:04 AM |
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May-18-09 02:48 AM |
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May-19-09 02:16 AM |
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wanna go fishing? n/t |
rufus dog |
May-18-09 01:32 AM |
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thank you |
omega minimo |
May-18-09 01:36 AM |
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Thank you! And people defend this tripe! n/t |
firedupdem |
May-18-09 01:38 AM |
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it all |
omega minimo |
May-18-09 01:41 AM |
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Personally I am not making the decision you made till he has some time to show what he will do |
RandomThoughts |
May-18-09 01:54 AM |
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Yeah, I'd still vote for him |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 02:16 AM |
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Leon Panetta, top lobbyist for Wall Street, appointed head of CIA. |
firedupdem |
May-18-09 01:55 AM |
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I remember him as a stunningly perceptive legislator from Monterey CA. |
MADem |
May-18-09 02:04 AM |
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Thanks...I was pretty sleepy reading this but I was sure he wasn't |
firedupdem |
May-18-09 08:57 AM |
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Should have Wiki'd all these guys |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 02:11 AM |
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You have it right. |
ThomCat |
May-18-09 01:56 AM |
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No, he isn't ... |
RoyGBiv |
May-18-09 02:01 AM |
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What really got me |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 02:14 AM |
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Okay ... |
RoyGBiv |
May-18-09 02:16 AM |
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Skepticism? |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 02:20 AM |
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Revisionist history! Intellectually dishonest! |
FrenchieCat |
May-18-09 02:38 AM |
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At the time of the phone calls |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 02:55 AM |
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"At the time of the phone calls"? wtf? |
FrenchieCat |
May-18-09 03:11 AM |
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Something they had to pass? |
CrawlingChaos |
May-18-09 04:23 AM |
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You don't know what there was ample time for, you just think you do..... |
FrenchieCat |
May-18-09 05:01 AM |
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Obviously there was ample time... |
CrawlingChaos |
May-18-09 06:13 AM |
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They recapitalized... |
FrenchieCat |
May-18-09 06:55 AM |
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I almost can't believe you're serious |
CrawlingChaos |
May-18-09 02:47 PM |
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Why do you think all of the nations.. |
stillcool |
May-18-09 09:48 PM |
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The citizens of those nations don't seem to think so |
CrawlingChaos |
May-18-09 10:47 PM |
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that has to do with job loss... |
stillcool |
May-19-09 10:20 AM |
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constituants calling to complain about somethign is not the same as a public poll... |
dionysus |
May-18-09 07:52 PM |
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bank bailout was pre-obama. stop changing history. |
mkultra |
May-18-09 09:44 AM |
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I disagree |
CrawlingChaos |
May-18-09 02:50 PM |
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Barney Frank head of the banking committee.. |
stillcool |
May-18-09 09:52 PM |
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Yes, he certainly did |
CrawlingChaos |
May-18-09 10:42 PM |
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I'm so sorry that you are disappointed... |
stillcool |
May-19-09 10:27 AM |
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if you took the time to dig a little you would find his facts are corrupt. |
mkultra |
May-18-09 09:45 AM |
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Or the other option; they suddenly decide that single payer was always a bad |
Lorien |
May-18-09 09:56 PM |
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Agree |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 10:01 PM |
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no. I haven't been deceived. |
cali |
May-18-09 04:38 AM |
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No. nt |
CBR |
May-18-09 05:34 AM |
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I'm not sure what I find more astounding |
wyldwolf |
May-18-09 06:39 AM |
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Just a skim of it is ridiciculous... |
firedupdem |
May-18-09 08:56 AM |
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May-19-09 02:12 AM |
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That's a good question ... |
RoyGBiv |
May-18-09 10:45 AM |
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May-18-09 06:39 AM |
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the obama haters the obama haters the obama cheerleaders |
cali |
May-18-09 07:23 AM |
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No |
Peacetrain |
May-18-09 09:07 AM |
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Laughably inaccurate and self-contradictory |
HamdenRice |
May-18-09 09:09 AM |
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So then you admit |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 09:18 PM |
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I am not |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 09:35 PM |
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Wrong, wrong and uh, wrong |
HamdenRice |
May-19-09 07:23 AM |
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My turn to point out a howler... |
redqueen |
May-18-09 09:17 AM |
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You're right of course |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 09:57 PM |
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Robert Gates has not been bad at all. He even approved of the torture memos being released. |
Jennicut |
May-18-09 09:18 AM |
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Not really. |
vaberella |
May-18-09 09:51 AM |
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Well then this entire post |
Jennicut |
May-18-09 09:53 AM |
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Not your entire post. |
vaberella |
May-18-09 10:02 AM |
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May-18-09 10:03 AM |
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I agree! I didn't follow any of his campaign either but expected an ultra-progressive! Nader 2012!! |
GarbagemanLB |
May-18-09 09:20 AM |
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This looks like a reTHUGlican email I received the other week! |
trayfoot |
May-18-09 09:28 AM |
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May-18-09 09:31 AM |
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you had to "walk through it" to recognize |
omega minimo |
May-18-09 02:55 PM |
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Lawyer weasle speak |
Kalun D |
May-19-09 12:57 AM |
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So Robert Gates is evil, Greenspan's opinion matters, and Obama caused this crash just like '29. |
Occam Bandage |
May-18-09 09:45 AM |
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No, Robert Gates is a fucking angel. |
moodforaday |
May-18-09 08:23 PM |
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Rumsfeld certainly has experience.. |
stillcool |
May-18-09 09:59 PM |
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TV is not a source of "education" |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 10:44 PM |
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You had a good run of four grievances that bothered you during the campaign |
MadBadger |
May-18-09 02:58 PM |
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If anyone has been had, you did it to yourself by projecting |
TheKentuckian |
May-18-09 03:08 PM |
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GOP talking points. |
AZBlue |
May-18-09 06:16 PM |
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. |
omega minimo |
May-18-09 06:50 PM |
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Yes, because the GOP truly cares |
moodforaday |
May-18-09 08:25 PM |
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no self-respecting Obama-hater would endorse this mess. |
Vattel |
May-18-09 08:12 PM |
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May-18-09 10:09 PM |
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The Dems are in power? Seems to me that the big corporations-especially |
Lorien |
May-18-09 09:51 PM |
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Gosh darn it |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 11:47 PM |
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when have we ever punished the repigs? |
MisterK |
May-18-09 10:09 PM |
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They spent $70 MILLION |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 11:50 PM |
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You've got at least 4 points here which took place before he was even President; |
tranche |
May-18-09 10:10 PM |
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"got caught sending memo's to corporate leaders" |
ProSense |
May-18-09 10:17 PM |
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Disgusting huh? I found so many errors it was ridiculous... |
firedupdem |
May-18-09 11:55 PM |
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You found ONE |
Kalun D |
May-19-09 02:39 AM |
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yes, yes. sainted you knows the "truth" |
cali |
May-19-09 10:44 AM |
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Never said they weren't |
Kalun D |
May-18-09 11:53 PM |
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Did you ever see Invasion of the Body Snatchers? |
leftofthedial |
May-19-09 12:02 AM |
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Stunned to see this still near the top of the forum. |
JeffR |
May-19-09 12:19 AM |
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What a lot of work you went to typing in this load of piffle. |
mwb970 |
May-19-09 05:54 AM |
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That list is an interesting read. |
leftofthedial |
May-19-09 01:36 PM |
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Don't worry. Obama is playing chess. |
invictus |
May-19-09 01:38 PM |
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Do you have sourcing links to all the alleged quotes in the OP? I find your spin deceptive. |
ClarkUSA |
May-19-09 01:44 PM |
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Locking |
muriel_volestrangler |
May-19-09 02:25 PM |
#172 |