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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 02:16 AM
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37. Yeah, I'd still vote for him
but I'm just not as optimistic as I was at first
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  -The Record So Far, Have We Been Deceived? Kalun D  May-18-09 01:14 AM   #0 
  - Well, the stem cell thing is pretty cool n/t  leftstreet   May-18-09 01:19 AM   #1 
  - LOL!! That speech fucked you up today? n/t  firedupdem   May-18-09 01:19 AM   #2 
  - This is the same stuff I've seen RWers use. Pushing the, "guilt by association" meme.  vaberella   May-18-09 01:19 AM   #3 
  - Yes, it does echo the substance of the opposition's arguments.  MADem   May-18-09 01:27 AM   #5 
  - Took me most of the day  Kalun D   May-18-09 01:45 AM   #17 
     - I can be specific--the record "so far"--he's been in the job, what, under four months?  MADem   May-18-09 02:00 AM   #26 
     - "Four months" has nothing to do with answering his question.  ThomCat   May-18-09 02:10 AM   #32 
     - I answered it just below, in post sixty three, to suit you.  MADem   May-18-09 07:29 AM   #66 
     - it directly applies to the "gitmo closed in a year" slam  mkultra   May-18-09 09:36 AM   #80 
     - I can definitely concede the intelligence point  Kalun D   May-18-09 02:24 AM   #39 
     - 4 months, 4 years  tavalon   May-18-09 06:56 AM   #62 
        - Do it with us or be quiet.???  MADem   May-18-09 07:17 AM   #63 
        - Yes, do it with us or be quiet. That is what I said.  tavalon   May-18-09 07:23 AM   #65 
        - The complaints in the OP are bullshit, for the reasons I have stated.  MADem   May-18-09 07:43 AM   #67 
           - You'll have to try harder.  moodforaday   May-18-09 08:44 PM   #112 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   May-18-09 10:03 PM   #128 
                 - Sorry you think this way.  Kalun D   May-18-09 11:06 PM   #137 
                    - Nothing wrong with pointing out genuine differences. But bullshit  MADem   May-18-09 11:10 PM   #138 
                       - So you seriously don't see any problems  Kalun D   May-18-09 11:39 PM   #140 
                          - I didn't say that. But this litany of non-sins is total bullshit.  MADem   May-18-09 11:51 PM   #143 
                             - I would like her a LOT better  Kalun D   May-19-09 12:00 AM   #146 
                                - That's pretty idiotic. Greenpeace doesn't pollute. I'd rather have someone who  MADem   May-19-09 12:06 AM   #148 
                                   - You are assuming a lot  Kalun D   May-19-09 12:16 AM   #149 
                                      - Deleted message  Name removed   May-19-09 09:52 AM   #163 
        - real criticism  Kalun D   May-18-09 08:18 PM   #106 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   May-18-09 10:06 PM   #129 
        - GOOD  Kalun D   May-19-09 03:13 AM   #160 
     - That's good...  Life Long Dem   May-18-09 03:34 PM   #97 
     - Thank you for your time with this.  truedelphi   May-19-09 01:11 AM   #152 
        - You're welcome  Kalun D   May-19-09 02:22 AM   #156 
           - And they are fond of saying he is not a legitimate, born in America citizen  truedelphi   May-19-09 01:24 PM   #168 
  - These are the promises he made to us, his base, that he has  ThomCat   May-18-09 01:30 AM   #6 
  - Wait...  vaberella   May-18-09 01:32 AM   #9 
  - The promise  Kalun D   May-18-09 02:37 AM   #45 
     - So the FED has lobbyists? WTH?  vaberella   May-18-09 02:45 AM   #49 
     - The pledge was  Kalun D   May-18-09 08:10 PM   #104 
     - the fed is not a private bank  mkultra   May-18-09 09:39 AM   #81 
        - quasi--having some resemblance  Kalun D   May-18-09 09:46 PM   #118 
  - Does this seem accurate to you?  firedupdem   May-18-09 01:36 AM   #11 
  - I remember the talk about the bill before it was released  ThomCat   May-18-09 01:44 AM   #16 
  - He went to Hawaii on his own dime with his family during Christmas..  firedupdem   May-18-09 01:47 AM   #18 
  - The vacation ...  RoyGBiv   May-18-09 01:54 AM   #22 
  - the reference  Kalun D   May-18-09 02:33 AM   #43 
     - Then you have your facts confused ...  RoyGBiv   May-18-09 02:34 AM   #44 
        - but you can't say  Kalun D   May-18-09 02:41 AM   #48 
           - Here's the deal ...  RoyGBiv   May-18-09 08:42 AM   #69 
              - Your word count  Kalun D   May-18-09 08:24 PM   #109 
  - You probably don't remember it because it didn't happen.  Doremus   May-18-09 08:11 AM   #68 
  - Actually, not ...  RoyGBiv   May-18-09 01:53 AM   #20 
     - Be specific  Kalun D   May-18-09 02:26 AM   #40 
        - the bank bailout is a glaring hole in your diatribe  mkultra   May-18-09 09:40 AM   #82 
           - ???  Kalun D   May-18-09 08:27 PM   #111 
              - had nothing to do with the financial industry...  stillcool   May-18-09 09:43 PM   #117 
                 - LOL  Kalun D   May-18-09 09:49 PM   #120 
                    - No...it is government money..  stillcool   May-18-09 10:02 PM   #127 
                       - Looked at the deficit and debt lately?  Kalun D   May-18-09 11:11 PM   #139 
                          - If you want to continue to argue..  stillcool   May-19-09 10:19 AM   #164 
  - Ah yes, trying to compare DU'ers we don't agree with as "right wingers"  slay   May-18-09 06:35 AM   #58 
  - This from someone who has a picture of that thing  Generator   May-18-09 08:22 PM   #107 
     - Oh I'm fully aware of who Tweety is...  vaberella   May-18-09 09:07 PM   #113 
  - I stopped reading at George Mitchell, top lobbyist......  FrenchieCat   May-18-09 01:23 AM   #4 
  - Why?  ThomCat   May-18-09 01:34 AM   #10 
  - Because it's false?  RoyGBiv   May-18-09 01:50 AM   #19 
  - What in that OP is false?  ThomCat   May-18-09 02:02 AM   #29 
     - George Mitchell ...  RoyGBiv   May-18-09 02:09 AM   #31 
     - Wrong  SpartanDem   May-18-09 03:41 PM   #98 
  - Thanks for the insult. It isn't appreciated, but then  FrenchieCat   May-18-09 01:59 AM   #25 
     - As often as you insult people  ThomCat   May-18-09 02:11 AM   #34 
        - Prove it!  FrenchieCat   May-18-09 02:31 AM   #41 
           - In this very thread  CrawlingChaos   May-18-09 03:11 PM   #96 
              - You are saying these things,  FrenchieCat   May-18-09 03:49 PM   #99 
                 - LOL!  CrawlingChaos   May-18-09 04:06 PM   #100 
  - There you go, corrected.  Kalun D   May-18-09 01:41 AM   #15 
  - Okay. I'm just going to pick out one little thing: The Crash of '29 was intentional?  Zynx   May-18-09 01:30 AM   #7 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-18-09 02:00 AM   #27 
  - Webster G. Tarpley  RoyGBiv   May-18-09 02:33 AM   #42 
     - Well if you have anything other than ad-hominem  Kalun D   May-18-09 02:40 AM   #47 
     - Ah, I was expecting this ...  RoyGBiv   May-18-09 09:05 AM   #72 
        - when you have anything other than ad hominem  Kalun D   May-18-09 09:38 PM   #116 
           - When you can provide a critique ...  RoyGBiv   May-19-09 01:29 AM   #153 
              - You argue  Kalun D   May-19-09 02:28 AM   #157 
                 - That didn't take as long as I expected ...  RoyGBiv   May-19-09 03:04 AM   #159 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   May-18-09 02:48 AM   #50 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-19-09 02:16 AM   #155 
  - wanna go fishing? n/t  rufus dog   May-18-09 01:32 AM   #8 
  - thank you  omega minimo   May-18-09 01:36 AM   #12 
     - Thank you! And people defend this tripe! n/t  firedupdem   May-18-09 01:38 AM   #13 
        - it all  omega minimo   May-18-09 01:41 AM   #14 
  - Personally I am not making the decision you made till he has some time to show what he will do  RandomThoughts   May-18-09 01:54 AM   #21 
  - Yeah, I'd still vote for him  Kalun D   May-18-09 02:16 AM   #37 
  - Leon Panetta, top lobbyist for Wall Street, appointed head of CIA.  firedupdem   May-18-09 01:55 AM   #23 
  - I remember him as a stunningly perceptive legislator from Monterey CA.  MADem   May-18-09 02:04 AM   #30 
  - Thanks...I was pretty sleepy reading this but I was sure he wasn't  firedupdem   May-18-09 08:57 AM   #71 
  - Should have Wiki'd all these guys  Kalun D   May-18-09 02:11 AM   #33 
  - You have it right.  ThomCat   May-18-09 01:56 AM   #24 
  - No, he isn't ...  RoyGBiv   May-18-09 02:01 AM   #28 
  - What really got me  Kalun D   May-18-09 02:14 AM   #35 
     - Okay ...  RoyGBiv   May-18-09 02:16 AM   #36 
        - Skepticism?  Kalun D   May-18-09 02:20 AM   #38 
           - Revisionist history! Intellectually dishonest!  FrenchieCat   May-18-09 02:38 AM   #46 
           - At the time of the phone calls  Kalun D   May-18-09 02:55 AM   #51 
              - "At the time of the phone calls"? wtf?  FrenchieCat   May-18-09 03:11 AM   #52 
              - Something they had to pass?  CrawlingChaos   May-18-09 04:23 AM   #53 
                 - You don't know what there was ample time for, you just think you do.....  FrenchieCat   May-18-09 05:01 AM   #55 
                    - Obviously there was ample time...  CrawlingChaos   May-18-09 06:13 AM   #57 
                       - They recapitalized...  FrenchieCat   May-18-09 06:55 AM   #61 
                       - I almost can't believe you're serious  CrawlingChaos   May-18-09 02:47 PM   #91 
                       - Why do you think all of the nations..  stillcool   May-18-09 09:48 PM   #119 
                          - The citizens of those nations don't seem to think so  CrawlingChaos   May-18-09 10:47 PM   #136 
                             - that has to do with job loss...  stillcool   May-19-09 10:20 AM   #165 
              - constituants calling to complain about somethign is not the same as a public poll...  dionysus   May-18-09 07:52 PM   #103 
           - bank bailout was pre-obama. stop changing history.  mkultra   May-18-09 09:44 AM   #83 
              - I disagree  CrawlingChaos   May-18-09 02:50 PM   #92 
                 - Barney Frank head of the banking committee..  stillcool   May-18-09 09:52 PM   #122 
                    - Yes, he certainly did  CrawlingChaos   May-18-09 10:42 PM   #134 
                       - I'm so sorry that you are disappointed...  stillcool   May-19-09 10:27 AM   #166 
  - if you took the time to dig a little you would find his facts are corrupt.  mkultra   May-18-09 09:45 AM   #85 
  - Or the other option; they suddenly decide that single payer was always a bad  Lorien   May-18-09 09:56 PM   #123 
     - Agree  Kalun D   May-18-09 10:01 PM   #126 
  - no. I haven't been deceived.  cali   May-18-09 04:38 AM   #54 
  - No. nt  CBR   May-18-09 05:34 AM   #56 
  - I'm not sure what I find more astounding  wyldwolf   May-18-09 06:39 AM   #59 
  - Just a skim of it is ridiciculous...  firedupdem   May-18-09 08:56 AM   #70 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-19-09 02:12 AM   #154 
  - That's a good question ...  RoyGBiv   May-18-09 10:45 AM   #90 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-18-09 06:39 AM   #60 
  - the obama haters the obama haters the obama cheerleaders  cali   May-18-09 07:23 AM   #64 
  - No  Peacetrain   May-18-09 09:07 AM   #73 
  - Laughably inaccurate and self-contradictory  HamdenRice   May-18-09 09:09 AM   #74 
  - So then you admit  Kalun D   May-18-09 09:18 PM   #114 
  - I am not  Kalun D   May-18-09 09:35 PM   #115 
     - Wrong, wrong and uh, wrong  HamdenRice   May-19-09 07:23 AM   #162 
  - My turn to point out a howler...  redqueen   May-18-09 09:17 AM   #75 
  - You're right of course  Kalun D   May-18-09 09:57 PM   #124 
  - Robert Gates has not been bad at all. He even approved of the torture memos being released.  Jennicut   May-18-09 09:18 AM   #76 
  - Not really.  vaberella   May-18-09 09:51 AM   #86 
     - Well then this entire post  Jennicut   May-18-09 09:53 AM   #87 
        - Not your entire post.  vaberella   May-18-09 10:02 AM   #88 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   May-18-09 10:03 AM   #89 
  - I agree! I didn't follow any of his campaign either but expected an ultra-progressive! Nader 2012!!  GarbagemanLB   May-18-09 09:20 AM   #77 
  - This looks like a reTHUGlican email I received the other week!  trayfoot   May-18-09 09:28 AM   #78 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-18-09 09:31 AM   #79 
  - you had to "walk through it" to recognize  omega minimo   May-18-09 02:55 PM   #93 
  - Lawyer weasle speak  Kalun D   May-19-09 12:57 AM   #151 
  - So Robert Gates is evil, Greenspan's opinion matters, and Obama caused this crash just like '29.  Occam Bandage   May-18-09 09:45 AM   #84 
  - No, Robert Gates is a fucking angel.  moodforaday   May-18-09 08:23 PM   #108 
  - Rumsfeld certainly has experience..  stillcool   May-18-09 09:59 PM   #125 
  - TV is not a source of "education"  Kalun D   May-18-09 10:44 PM   #135 
  - You had a good run of four grievances that bothered you during the campaign  MadBadger   May-18-09 02:58 PM   #94 
  - If anyone has been had, you did it to yourself by projecting  TheKentuckian   May-18-09 03:08 PM   #95 
  - GOP talking points.  AZBlue   May-18-09 06:16 PM   #101 
  - .  omega minimo   May-18-09 06:50 PM   #102 
  - Yes, because the GOP truly cares  moodforaday   May-18-09 08:25 PM   #110 
  - no self-respecting Obama-hater would endorse this mess.  Vattel   May-18-09 08:12 PM   #105 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-18-09 10:09 PM   #130 
  - The Dems are in power? Seems to me that the big corporations-especially  Lorien   May-18-09 09:51 PM   #121 
  - Gosh darn it  Kalun D   May-18-09 11:47 PM   #141 
  - when have we ever punished the repigs?  MisterK   May-18-09 10:09 PM   #131 
  - They spent $70 MILLION  Kalun D   May-18-09 11:50 PM   #142 
  - You've got at least 4 points here which took place before he was even President;  tranche   May-18-09 10:10 PM   #132 
  - "got caught sending memo's to corporate leaders"  ProSense   May-18-09 10:17 PM   #133 
  - Disgusting huh? I found so many errors it was ridiculous...  firedupdem   May-18-09 11:55 PM   #145 
     - You found ONE  Kalun D   May-19-09 02:39 AM   #158 
        - yes, yes. sainted you knows the "truth"  cali   May-19-09 10:44 AM   #167 
  - Never said they weren't  Kalun D   May-18-09 11:53 PM   #144 
  - Did you ever see Invasion of the Body Snatchers?  leftofthedial   May-19-09 12:02 AM   #147 
  - Stunned to see this still near the top of the forum.  JeffR   May-19-09 12:19 AM   #150 
  - What a lot of work you went to typing in this load of piffle.  mwb970   May-19-09 05:54 AM   #161 
  - That list is an interesting read.  leftofthedial   May-19-09 01:36 PM   #169 
  - Don't worry. Obama is playing chess.  invictus   May-19-09 01:38 PM   #170 
  - Do you have sourcing links to all the alleged quotes in the OP? I find your spin deceptive.  ClarkUSA   May-19-09 01:44 PM   #171 
  - Locking  muriel_volestrangler   May-19-09 02:25 PM   #172 
 

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