Honeycombe8
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Wed May-13-09 12:11 AM
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| 12. I don't know anyone, not one person, who wants a public system only. |
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Including myself.
It sounds great, and in theory I'd be in favor of, keeping the ins. cos. (and the profit) out of the system. That makes the cost high (duh!). But I'm hearing that in practice, it doesn't work that well for things that are not ordinary exams and maintenance. There are fewer drs. There are far fewer operations, so if you need an operation, you may have to wait months or years to get one, if ever.
But if we add to the current system a public system where the govt offers public plans at reasonable rates, and then subsidizes the premium payments, that makes sense to me.
Who is slipping thru the cracks now are not the very poor. They get free medical care that you and I pay for in our taxes. It is the lower middle class, who are not poor enuf to qualify for free care, but don't have enuf $ to pay for private policy. The govt would subsidize those payments on a sliding scale. Those with enuf $ to buy a private policy, or who have employer-provided ins., would have the option of keeping that, or paying for the public plan (although it wouldn't be subsidized).
It sounds like it could work. But I'm no ins. expert, so how can I know for sure?
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| -Obama Massive Fail - Universal Single Payer Not For Profit Health Care The Only Solution |
lostnotforgotten |
May-12-09 11:40 PM |
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Heh. Obama sucks! |
babylonsister |
May-12-09 11:44 PM |
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May-12-09 11:50 PM |
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May-13-09 12:05 AM |
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May-13-09 06:23 AM |
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Every time you get in the car, you wonder: is this the ride that will take my home, my life? |
Oregone |
May-13-09 12:06 AM |
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Living if fear is worse that injecting yourself with blood flood a deiseased rat |
Grinchie |
May-13-09 02:47 AM |
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It's not gonna happen. And for good reason: the voters don't want it. |
Honeycombe8 |
May-12-09 11:55 PM |
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Wrong, Wrong, Wrong - The American Oligarchs Don't Want It |
lostnotforgotten |
May-12-09 11:56 PM |
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Reality doesn't mean we need to give up the fight for it. |
Bolo Boffin |
May-12-09 11:57 PM |
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Don't Repeat The Right Wing Oligarch Meme - The American Do Want Single Payer |
lostnotforgotten |
May-12-09 11:59 PM |
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I don't know anyone, not one person, who wants a public system only. |
Honeycombe8 |
May-13-09 12:11 AM |
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Everyone I know, with the exception of one dittohead freeper, wants |
Lorien |
May-13-09 02:04 AM |
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Perhaps you live in a Secure Gated Community. |
Grinchie |
May-13-09 03:02 AM |
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Spotted As A Health Insurance Cheerleader - How's That Working For You By The Way? |
lostnotforgotten |
May-13-09 06:29 AM |
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I'm all for it if you can assure me that it won't be like Medicaid |
ecstatic |
May-13-09 12:30 AM |
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Don't even Start A Flame War On This Issue - I Lived The Hell For 5 Years |
lostnotforgotten |
May-12-09 11:58 PM |
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sounds like our HMO but that HMO is for profit lol (starts with bluuuuuuuue) nt |
msongs |
May-13-09 12:00 AM |
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"But they narrowed it down to two candidates, neither of whom thought single-payer would be the way" |
Oregone |
May-13-09 12:09 AM |
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I voted for O. I read his campaign website, where his plans on the |
Honeycombe8 |
May-13-09 12:18 AM |
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You picked the right man. |
babylonsister |
May-13-09 12:23 AM |
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Nice of you to tell me why I voted for Obama. Sounds like |
firedupdem |
May-13-09 12:22 AM |
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Not really... |
Oregone |
May-13-09 12:35 AM |
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The MSM narrowed the race down to two candidates |
dflprincess |
May-13-09 12:16 AM |
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The horror stories are being brought to you by the same people |
dgibby |
May-13-09 12:16 AM |
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Not sure whos Navy you were in. |
Thothmes |
May-13-09 06:55 PM |
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according to an AP poll from 2007, most Americans support single-payer |
JustinL |
May-13-09 02:03 AM |
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I lived in Germany for five years |
JPettus |
May-13-09 02:43 AM |
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What Corporate talking point wagone di you fall off of? |
Grinchie |
May-13-09 02:59 AM |
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of course you would start hearing horror stories now |
livefreest |
May-13-09 03:29 AM |
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The plan is not to "radically" switch. The plan is/was to offer a public plan as an option ... |
Triana |
May-13-09 05:51 AM |
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The voters do want it |
Bluenorthwest |
May-13-09 07:06 AM |
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The horror stories are greatly exaggerated. |
subterranean |
May-13-09 03:57 PM |
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Agreed..but we need to be REALISTIC!! n/t |
vaberella |
May-13-09 01:12 AM |
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40 Million Americans Want Solutions Not Realism - Fuck Realism! |
lostnotforgotten |
May-13-09 06:24 AM |
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Let me be frank. |
vaberella |
May-13-09 09:31 AM |
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Were the Cuban's being realistic with their Healthcare reform? |
harun |
May-13-09 03:47 PM |
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I don't agree with Obama on this issue, but ... |
Puzzler |
May-13-09 01:57 AM |
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In 2003 He Was A Supporter - Those Facts Posted Here At The Very DU |
lostnotforgotten |
May-13-09 06:24 AM |
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Show me the proof... |
vaberella |
May-13-09 09:32 AM |
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Well, he wasn't a supporter in 2008... |
Puzzler |
May-13-09 12:16 PM |
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Single Payer is paid by taxes in other countries. |
FrenchieCat |
May-13-09 02:22 AM |
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How stupid do you think I am to prefer a $450 a month "premium"-- |
eridani |
May-13-09 05:44 AM |
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Tell It Eridani - Obama's Massive Fail Will Be His Legacy |
lostnotforgotten |
May-13-09 06:28 AM |
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Yawn. n/t |
BzaDem |
May-13-09 01:34 PM |
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Well, welcome to the real world where our president is not perfect and things work imperfectly. |
elocs |
May-13-09 02:54 AM |
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He Supported Single Payer Back In 2003 - He Can Support It Again |
lostnotforgotten |
May-13-09 06:27 AM |
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I think that Obama has found the realities of what he can or cannot do as president |
elocs |
May-13-09 06:52 AM |
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PEOPLE CALM DOWN |
livefreest |
May-13-09 03:34 AM |
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You Live Without Health Care Access For 5 Years And Then Tell Me To Calm Down! |
lostnotforgotten |
May-13-09 06:26 AM |
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I've lived without it for 10....so I can most definitely say "CALM DOWN!" |
vaberella |
May-13-09 09:34 AM |
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ok. point taken |
livefreest |
May-14-09 12:51 AM |
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Bullshit. Single Payer is not realistic. It would never happen with this Congress |
Thrill |
May-13-09 08:28 AM |
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Exactly. n/t |
vaberella |
May-13-09 11:02 AM |
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Shh. I'm sick and tired of your reasoned arguments and facts. n/t |
BzaDem |
May-13-09 01:41 PM |
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PROGRESSIVES MASSIVE FAIL: Believing THEIR way is the ONLY WAY. n/t |
stevenleser |
May-13-09 11:01 AM |
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the travelocity gnome sure is pissed, isn't he? |
dionysus |
May-13-09 12:18 PM |
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All Obama has to do is expand Medicare or Medicad... |
and-justice-for-all |
May-13-09 03:42 PM |
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K&R |
Wednesdays |
May-13-09 06:20 PM |
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So in your view, we shouldn't even be discussing other options? |
Hippo_Tron |
May-13-09 06:57 PM |
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