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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 04:03 PM
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43. It is
definitely disc rimination "when you have a pool of equally qualified candidates," and you automatically cut out all the men because you feel it's necessary to fulfill a quota (a word I'm sticking with).

If you say "we need more women on SCOTUS, so men need not apply for Souter's seat," it's discrimination. Pure and simple. Call it "corrective," "affirmative action" or whatever else makes you feel good, but if you're going to exclude white men from your list because you feel you're righting a wrong, you're engaging in discrimination - reverse or otherwise, it's discrimination.

Emotional pleading about 150 years of this and 50 years of that doesn't make discrimination right in this day and age or any other.

If you're seriously arguing that "They are all eminently qualified" and that any of them would be good picks without one being more qualfied than the rest, I'd look at age, risk factors and family histories LONG before I'd ever start to care about gender or skin tone, given that this is a lifetime appointment. If we're going to discriminate, let's do it sensibly and keep a good pick on the court for decades.
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  -Vote for your choice for SCOTUS usregimechange  May-07-09 08:07 PM   #0 
  - Curiosity... why all women?  Fearless   May-07-09 08:17 PM   #1 
  - I explained my reasoning for this already but please note that Cass Sunstein is male  usregimechange   May-07-09 08:22 PM   #2 
  - So is Deval Patrick  Zavulon   May-09-09 12:15 PM   #26 
     - Deval's my governor, and while he's a good guy I don't think he'd be a good SCOTUS justice.  Arkana   May-09-09 03:29 PM   #38 
        - Fair enough. You certainly know him better than I do. (NT)  Zavulon   May-09-09 04:04 PM   #44 
  - By all indications, it will be a woman. There is no man more qualified  tekisui   May-08-09 07:05 AM   #15 
     - If a woman is indeed the best then it's a good idea...  Fearless   May-08-09 02:11 PM   #17 
     - "I'd love to see another woman, or better yet a lesbian Hispanic woman"  jesus_of_suburbia   May-08-09 08:05 PM   #21 
     - Why?  Zavulon   May-09-09 12:09 PM   #25 
        - Why not?  Luminous Animal   May-09-09 12:58 PM   #28 
           - So you believe in quotas for SCOTUS?  Zavulon   May-09-09 01:16 PM   #30 
              - No, I believe in affirmative action for SCOTUS.  Luminous Animal   May-09-09 01:44 PM   #32 
              - There's the difference.  Zavulon   May-09-09 01:59 PM   #33 
                 - The Kos articles are authored by Armando...  Luminous Animal   May-09-09 03:22 PM   #37 
                    - Since I refuse to go on Kos's site,  Zavulon   May-09-09 03:50 PM   #42 
                       - I don't have a choice at this point...  Luminous Animal   May-09-09 04:16 PM   #45 
                          - Neither do I.  Zavulon   May-09-09 04:46 PM   #48 
              - If there appears to be a bias toward appointing men despite the high prevelance of  Zynx   May-09-09 02:08 PM   #34 
                 - Appears? Correction?  Zavulon   May-09-09 02:35 PM   #35 
                    - It is not discrimination  Luminous Animal   May-09-09 03:37 PM   #40 
                       - It is  Zavulon   May-09-09 04:03 PM   #43 
                          - So it okay if we discriminate  Luminous Animal   May-09-09 04:36 PM   #47 
                             - No, it's not okay at all, but I'm not suprised that you missed my point.  Zavulon   May-09-09 04:50 PM   #49 
  - Granholm  TexasObserver   May-07-09 08:34 PM   #3 
  - She was my #2 behind Karlan  usregimechange   May-07-09 08:36 PM   #4 
  - Oh, I forgot Sullivan, she is tied for 2nd on my list and may move to 1 before this is over  usregimechange   May-07-09 09:06 PM   #6 
  - I'm with you on that one!  annarbor   May-09-09 05:35 PM   #52 
     - I would hate to lose her in MI though  blue_onyx   May-10-09 02:31 PM   #57 
  - I didn't expect Sotomayor to do so well here but it is early in the voting  usregimechange   May-07-09 08:44 PM   #5 
  - There seemed to be a lot of folks supporting Wardlaw last I was on here...  usregimechange   May-07-09 09:24 PM   #7 
  - Can I get 5 people to rec this to the greatest so we can get more votes?  usregimechange   May-07-09 09:41 PM   #8 
  - It is getting interesting...  usregimechange   May-07-09 10:08 PM   #9 
  - Look at all of the chicks!  Number23   May-08-09 12:28 AM   #10 
  - Kagan is my first choice. Wood is the second.  Kaleva   May-08-09 12:37 AM   #11 
  - I think it is likely to be Kagan and soon  usregimechange   May-08-09 01:37 AM   #12 
     - She does seem to be seen as 'lock'.  tekisui   May-08-09 07:07 AM   #16 
        - Why? What makes her "Special K"?  JFKfanforever   May-08-09 02:16 PM   #18 
  - Granholm n/t  Corey_Baker08   May-08-09 02:11 AM   #13 
  - Sullivan or Diane Wood  Lyric   May-08-09 06:19 AM   #14 
  - My vote is for the youngest liberal available  recoveringdittohed   May-08-09 05:30 PM   #19 
  - Elena Kagan,at 49 she's young, plus she'd be the first gay SC justice  ShadowLiberal   May-08-09 06:40 PM   #20 
  - I think you've mistaken Kagen for Karlen  Kaleva   May-08-09 08:17 PM   #22 
     - Yep but not the first time that has happened  usregimechange   May-09-09 10:57 AM   #24 
        - Well Kagan is rumored to be...  liberalpragmatist   May-09-09 01:15 PM   #29 
           - lol... n/t  cwcwmack   May-09-09 05:22 PM   #51 
  - Anybody but Granholm..  fadedrose   May-08-09 08:24 PM   #23 
  - She made a mistake supporting the primary  blue_onyx   May-10-09 02:19 PM   #55 
  - Sunstein  Zavulon   May-09-09 12:19 PM   #27 
  - I like Wood, Sotomayor, Kagan, Karlan, and Granholm  liberalpragmatist   May-09-09 01:22 PM   #31 
  - Judge Reinhold  whistler162   May-09-09 02:35 PM   #36 
  - This.  Arkana   May-09-09 03:34 PM   #39 
  - Oops... meant Earl Warren.....  whistler162   May-09-09 03:42 PM   #41 
  - MI being in bad shape isn't Granholm's fault  blue_onyx   May-10-09 02:36 PM   #58 
  - Allyson K. Duncan, Federal Circuit Court Judge, 4th Cir  Supersedeas   May-09-09 04:27 PM   #46 
  - Kathleen Sullivan ftw...  cwcwmack   May-09-09 05:20 PM   #50 
  - I agree and she is catching up here.  usregimechange   May-10-09 01:58 PM   #53 
  - Other: Judge Judy  ecstatic   May-10-09 01:59 PM   #54 
  - We need a girl. Too many boys on the Court right now. Some balance  saltpoint   May-10-09 02:25 PM   #56 
  - kicking for more votes  usregimechange   May-10-09 09:33 PM   #59 
  - Whichever candidate the whore media talks about the most  Sebastian Doyle   May-11-09 02:35 AM   #60 
     - Not bad  usregimechange   May-14-09 09:11 PM   #61 

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