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| 67. Maybe it's an attempt to undo the "victim" role |
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She wasn't just stung by criticism when she chose to stay with her cheating husband, but found herself to be yet another woman victimized by a man who seemed to find power to be a much greater priority than fidelity. Maybe she's just "representin'" and sending a message to other wives that it's never too late to take back their self worth as well as to men to quit being such weak (or is it vain?) fuckers that they think they can get away with this. How many wives of powerful men have been treated this way? It just seems to come with the territory. Think of all the political wives who've been jettisoned for other (often younger) women and even more who've simply put up with the cheating bullshit because it's accepted as coming with the territory.
I can also kind of relate to the need to set the example for your kids. My ex wasn't a cheating arsehole, just an arsehole, but I reached a point where I realized that in tolerating his emotionally abusive bullshit, I was setting a horrible example for my kids. They've since thanked me for finding the strength to get out and assert myself. My daughter, especially, needed to see what a strong woman was.
Of course, not having read the book I can only speculate from my own POV, but it doesn't seem fair to criticize without having done so.
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| -Why did Elizabeth Edwards write her new book? |
cali |
May-04-09 07:02 AM |
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A Woman on the Verge of Divorce Needs Some Lawyer Money |
Demeter |
May-04-09 07:05 AM |
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She has plenty of money for a lawyer. |
cali |
May-04-09 07:06 AM |
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She's not getting a divorce. Maybe she wants her side out before she dies? |
WI_DEM |
May-04-09 12:02 PM |
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Not really - the lawyer will fo it on sp[ec and get the money later |
AngryAmish |
May-04-09 12:16 PM |
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Maybe she wanted to get her side out... |
MinneapolisMatt |
May-04-09 07:07 AM |
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maybe. it just seems weird to write something |
cali |
May-04-09 07:10 AM |
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Maybe she wants her kids to read it someday, knowing that they will |
pnwmom |
May-04-09 12:04 PM |
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Could be. When you reach the point of having nothing to lose, truth becomes more important |
havocmom |
May-04-09 08:09 AM |
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Yup, happened in my 1st marriage |
stevenleser |
May-04-09 01:56 PM |
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but it hurts her rather than helps her |
karynnj |
May-04-09 11:04 AM |
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Why does it hurt her? she is just being honest. |
WI_DEM |
May-04-09 12:03 PM |
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Is she really? |
Medusa |
May-05-09 03:22 PM |
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She's devastated and she's telling the story she WANTS to believe . . . |
The Hope Mobile |
May-06-09 10:39 PM |
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The truth sometimes hurts |
havocmom |
May-04-09 03:35 PM |
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'truth' doesn't hurt liars AT ALL! |
elleng |
May-05-09 12:14 AM |
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No, many liars are VERY concerned with image and truth bashes image |
havocmom |
May-05-09 08:22 AM |
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read the title of the book |
jules1962 |
May-06-09 06:51 AM |
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So she can ask her husband to help proofread and stuff... |
Ian David |
May-04-09 07:12 AM |
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Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner! |
Tutankhamun |
May-06-09 10:29 PM |
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One word,,,,,Closure |
lazer47 |
May-04-09 07:22 AM |
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I don't see how this book provides closure for her |
cali |
May-04-09 07:24 AM |
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Truth telling can be a comfort. |
havocmom |
May-04-09 08:11 AM |
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Then tell it to your friends |
Inuca |
May-05-09 11:33 AM |
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I agree. This need to splat your personal experiences all over |
tsuki |
May-04-09 10:19 AM |
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It will provide her voice to Jack and Emma when she is gone. |
pnwmom |
May-04-09 12:05 PM |
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As I said above before reading your message |
Inuca |
May-05-09 11:37 AM |
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Naw, this will open more than it closes. |
Captain Hilts |
May-04-09 07:58 AM |
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To call the paramour "Pathetic" in the public square, perhaps? |
MADem |
May-04-09 07:22 AM |
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Refusal to acknowledge one's child |
Adelante |
May-04-09 07:38 AM |
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There are more than a few contenders for father of that child. n/t |
quiller4 |
May-04-09 12:23 PM |
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Says you. How many visited the kid at 3:00 a.m. before trying to leave through the basement? |
WinkyDink |
May-04-09 07:08 PM |
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John has asked her to take a paternity test |
hyphenate |
May-04-09 11:37 PM |
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She has denied that Edwards is the father. |
quiller4 |
May-05-09 08:30 PM |
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Calling her pathetic is pathetic.... |
Baby Snooks |
May-04-09 08:04 AM |
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Well, she's pathetic then, because she calls Rielle Hunter "pathetic" in the book. NT |
MADem |
May-04-09 08:25 AM |
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Rielle Hunter is pathetic but Elizabeth Edwards doesn't |
quiller4 |
May-04-09 12:20 PM |
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I haven't read the book, so it's really not for me to say. |
MADem |
May-04-09 10:10 PM |
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Another vote for Rielle Hunter is pathetic. |
avaistheone1 |
May-05-09 09:11 AM |
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because she might need her own money when this probe starts |
a kennedy |
May-04-09 07:28 AM |
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Elizabeth is a savvy lawyer |
cali |
May-04-09 07:33 AM |
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you don't know. being a full time mom |
mopinko |
May-04-09 09:58 AM |
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Hey, mop. |
elleng |
May-05-09 12:16 AM |
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hey back at ya |
mopinko |
May-05-09 09:30 AM |
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'her own money' we have no idea about. |
elleng |
May-05-09 12:12 AM |
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Agreed. |
TuxedoKat |
May-04-09 07:36 AM |
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She believes she was something of worth to say about resiliance |
stray cat |
May-04-09 07:40 AM |
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could be, but couldn't she have |
cali |
May-04-09 07:42 AM |
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How much detail of the affair is there in the book? It certainly qualifies as a difficult time |
stray cat |
May-04-09 07:44 AM |
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Not enough, apparently. It's a "short book" they say. |
MADem |
May-04-09 07:49 AM |
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If she doesn't write her story, someone else will. That's why celebs often do these now. |
Captain Hilts |
May-04-09 07:47 AM |
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Elizabeth Edwards is no Katherine Hepburn.... |
Baby Snooks |
May-04-09 08:11 AM |
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It's more complicated than that. But prominent folks are wise to get their view out there. |
Captain Hilts |
May-04-09 10:22 AM |
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Spencer Tracy... |
Baby Snooks |
May-04-09 11:44 AM |
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He always struck me |
TuxedoKat |
May-04-09 07:03 PM |
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That is a pretty gender biased thing to say, dontcha think? |
stevenleser |
May-04-09 07:15 PM |
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I agree with the money reason given above. nt |
Saturday |
May-04-09 07:52 AM |
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She wrote a book after the campaign too |
sandnsea |
May-04-09 07:52 AM |
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Sometimes people write these because they're bored shitless on campagin planes, etc. |
Captain Hilts |
May-04-09 07:58 AM |
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That was all political |
karynnj |
May-04-09 11:17 AM |
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Wow, I didn't know she did that to the Kerrys |
ellacott |
May-04-09 01:05 PM |
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The Kerrys are |
Cha |
May-04-09 04:51 PM |
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My views of her first book are the same as yours. I didn't like her nearly as much after I read it. |
Diane R |
May-05-09 01:21 PM |
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Call Me Naive, But |
abluelady |
May-04-09 08:04 AM |
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good points. When life brings pain, many try to make the pain serve a purpose |
havocmom |
May-04-09 08:14 AM |
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I think you are right. The job of a writer is to explore reality. |
JDPriestly |
May-04-09 11:14 AM |
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If I could only recommend a reply... |
gardenista |
May-04-09 04:44 PM |
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Attention |
dancingme |
May-04-09 08:10 AM |
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I don't know..... |
Klukie |
May-04-09 08:26 AM |
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You have hit the nail on the head, IMHO. |
classof56 |
May-04-09 09:39 AM |
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Before we speculate... |
deerheadgal |
May-04-09 08:42 AM |
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I don't need to.... |
Baby Snooks |
May-04-09 10:14 AM |
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Exactly. When a man cheats on his wife, IMO, the "other woman" is not to blame, it's him. |
ShortnFiery |
May-05-09 11:38 PM |
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I think she was really stung by all the criticism from her fellow liberals on her |
CTyankee |
May-04-09 09:15 AM |
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I think Elizabeth is a very sweet and classy person. |
avaistheone1 |
May-06-09 01:43 AM |
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In my view, to set the record straight while she has the chance. |
Beacool |
May-04-09 09:51 AM |
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she doesn't have to publish now to do that. |
cali |
May-04-09 10:05 AM |
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True........ |
Beacool |
May-04-09 10:43 AM |
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She knows that talking about her husband cheating will make people buy the book? |
Mass |
May-04-09 10:24 AM |
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Confusion - bewilderment that she and JRE fell so far so fast |
karynnj |
May-04-09 11:03 AM |
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yes, it does look as if she lied.in August |
cali |
May-04-09 11:44 AM |
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I don't either - |
karynnj |
May-04-09 11:52 AM |
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Writing the book |
Adelante |
May-04-09 12:04 PM |
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She probably didn't trust her husband to tell the story after she's gone |
marshall |
May-04-09 11:29 AM |
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Self expression? |
Politicub |
May-04-09 11:54 AM |
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Regarding the whole "want to have my side of the story out" |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
May-04-09 11:54 AM |
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actually, from what I've read she is terminally ill. Money won't change that. |
sohndrsmith |
May-05-09 10:37 PM |
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It probably is as simple as wanting to get her view of the story out. n/t |
AtomicKitten |
May-04-09 12:17 PM |
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I don't know, but she is entitled. |
Political Heretic |
May-04-09 12:25 PM |
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no one is saying she doesn't have the right to do it. |
cali |
May-04-09 12:28 PM |
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I know, I understand the point you are making. |
Political Heretic |
May-04-09 12:37 PM |
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I think we will hear about alot of other things than the affair. Elizabeth Edwards is a formidable |
applegrove |
May-04-09 01:15 PM |
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Sometimes brutal, public honesty... |
LanternWaste |
May-04-09 01:18 PM |
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Maybe it's an attempt to undo the "victim" role |
buzzycrumbhunger |
May-04-09 01:29 PM |
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The big question is... |
zulchzulu |
May-04-09 02:40 PM |
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Because she simply craves the attention. |
beachmom |
May-04-09 05:00 PM |
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bingo! |
dancingme |
May-04-09 06:01 PM |
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Bingo twice. |
Diane R |
May-05-09 01:51 PM |
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I think you hit it on the nail |
karynnj |
May-06-09 07:45 AM |
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$he's just trying to get her $ide of the $tory out there. nt |
Occam Bandage |
May-04-09 05:09 PM |
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nah, I don't think she's doing it for the money |
cali |
May-04-09 06:03 PM |
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I think she's very angry and very bitter. |
MoonRiver |
May-04-09 06:07 PM |
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Angry and bitter, but self deluded enough to cover it with a ton of sugar coating |
karynnj |
May-05-09 09:06 AM |
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Dying does things... |
JuniperLea |
May-04-09 06:15 PM |
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John and Elizabeth rock! Always have, always will! n/t |
balantz |
May-04-09 06:49 PM |
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keep the faith. |
cali |
May-04-09 07:15 PM |
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Well ........ there current relationship does sound rocky |
karynnj |
May-05-09 08:49 AM |
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The truth shall set you free. |
WinkyDink |
May-04-09 07:10 PM |
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I think she may have done this for a variety of reasons |
Grateful for Hope |
May-04-09 07:12 PM |
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My opinion - Greed |
Debi |
May-04-09 07:18 PM |
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I don't know if it's greed or what |
Adelante |
May-05-09 06:10 AM |
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Thanks |
Debi |
May-05-09 10:22 AM |
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Greed may be too strong a word... |
Orsino |
May-05-09 06:44 AM |
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'value and honesty' |
Debi |
May-05-09 10:22 AM |
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It matters what she knew, and what she covered up. |
Orsino |
May-05-09 11:28 AM |
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Just one of many articles says she knew in December of 2006 |
Debi |
May-05-09 12:19 PM |
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Again: knew what, exactly? |
Orsino |
May-05-09 12:43 PM |
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Wait...so you don't believe that news of the affair had come out during the campaign |
Debi |
May-05-09 12:56 PM |
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I don't demand fidelity of candidates... |
Orsino |
May-05-09 01:25 PM |
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Yes, indeed. |
avaistheone1 |
May-06-09 01:18 PM |
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I believee that a lot of people on this thread are being very judgmental. |
juajen |
May-06-09 12:43 AM |
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Catharsis maybe. |
polichick |
May-04-09 07:19 PM |
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Because she could. |
hyphenate |
May-04-09 11:29 PM |
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Is this the ***OFFICIAL*** diehard Edwards supporters throw-Elizabeth-under-the-bus thread? |
smalll |
May-05-09 02:15 AM |
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no, it's clearly not that. |
cali |
May-05-09 06:41 AM |
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people write books for two reasons |
Teaser |
May-05-09 06:14 AM |
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A small rewrite of your first reason |
Inuca |
May-05-09 11:39 AM |
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Excerpt in Time: How I Survived John's Affair |
Adelante |
May-05-09 08:07 AM |
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It is clear that she is still in denial and still whitewashing JRE |
karynnj |
May-05-09 08:48 AM |
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Agree |
Adelante |
May-05-09 08:53 AM |
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No contest - |
karynnj |
May-05-09 09:11 AM |
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This fragment is rather painful and sad to read |
Inuca |
May-05-09 11:07 AM |
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You know what I take away from these two paragraphs. EE blames the mistress and herself for getting |
rvablue |
May-05-09 12:39 PM |
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I know, it's just bizarre nt |
Adelante |
May-05-09 12:54 PM |
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It's depressing that on the one hand she says the whole think makes her sick |
XemaSab |
May-05-09 12:51 PM |
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Opportunism. |
joshcryer |
May-05-09 10:54 AM |
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It's become very obvious that she possesses very little of the |
deaniac21 |
May-05-09 12:11 PM |
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you're kidding, right? |
cali |
May-05-09 12:16 PM |
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I think they may be running equally for the 'most class' trophy |
Debi |
May-05-09 12:23 PM |
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Yeah, it's superclassy to run for your party's nomination knowing full well that you have a ten ton |
rvablue |
May-05-09 12:36 PM |
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I suggested catharsis above, but she may also have needed it to be public... |
polichick |
May-05-09 12:13 PM |
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I do feel bad for her on some level but at the same time airing your dirty laundry in public in |
Jennicut |
May-05-09 12:28 PM |
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Why not? The story was already public. She has the right to air her side of the story. |
PresidentObama |
May-05-09 06:10 PM |
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Maybe it was for relief? |
laylah |
May-05-09 06:17 PM |
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to hurt and embarrass him the way he hurt and embarrassed her? |
renate |
May-05-09 07:02 PM |
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Maybe it offered some kind of catharsis. |
The Velveteen Ocelot |
May-05-09 07:20 PM |
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Maybe she knows how much she is loved and just wanted to share her story with her fans, |
jillan |
May-05-09 11:16 PM |
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I have no idea. nt |
ZombieHorde |
May-06-09 06:17 AM |
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I don't know why EE wrote her book but it is the wrong thing for her to be talking about. |
DURHAM D |
May-06-09 01:02 PM |
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I've actually lost a bit of respect for Elizabeth over this, |
Blue_In_AK |
May-06-09 01:39 PM |
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I understand your thinking on this, but I have to say, if I were her, I'd be feeling vindictive too. |
ObamaKerryDem |
May-06-09 01:58 PM |
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Lost respect? Why? You said yourself, she has the right to tell her side of the story. |
PresidentObama |
May-06-09 05:09 PM |
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it does stir the whole thing up |
cali |
May-06-09 05:16 PM |
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She has a right to get her side of the story out. |
PresidentObama |
May-06-09 06:40 PM |
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I only speak for myself, |
Blue_In_AK |
May-06-09 05:27 PM |
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Well I respect your opinion, but I have to ask again--why? |
PresidentObama |
May-06-09 06:41 PM |
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the whole thing had died down |
cali |
May-06-09 06:44 PM |
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She had the right to her side of the story. JE is being investigated, it was going to be fresh news |
PresidentObama |
May-07-09 11:18 AM |
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I've been in her situation |
Blue_In_AK |
May-06-09 10:00 PM |
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Again, the investigation is getting just as much press, if not more. |
PresidentObama |
May-07-09 11:19 AM |
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Catharis....IMO. n/t |
Hepburn |
May-06-09 10:04 PM |
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To express herself. Also, there are a lot of people who |
elshiva |
May-06-09 11:05 PM |
#159 |