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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 09:44 AM
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32. Obama is center-right


When examining the chart it's important to note that although most of the candidates seem quite different, in substance they occupy a relatively restricted area within the universal political spectrum. Democracies with a system of proportional representation give expression to a wider range of political views. While Cynthia McKinney and Ralph Nader are depicted on the extreme left in an American context, they would simply be mainstream social democrats within the wider political landscape of Europe. Similarly, Obama is popularly perceived as a leftist in the United States while elsewhere in the west his record is that of a moderate conservative. For example, in the case of the death penalty he is not an uncompromising abolitionist, while mainstream conservatives in all other western democracies are deeply opposed to capital punishment. The Democratic party's presidential candidate also reneged on his commitment to oppose the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. He sided with the ultra conservative bloc in the Supreme Court against the Washington DC handgun ban and for capital punishment in child rape cases. He supports President Bush's faith-based initiatives and is reported in Fortune to have said that NAFTA isn't so bad. Despite all this, some angry emailers tell us that Obama is a dangerous socialist who belongs on the extreme left of our chart. In an apparently close race, genuine leftists McKinney and Nader may attract sufficient votes from Obama to deliver McCain to the Oval Office.


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  -Is claiming Obama isn't a "progressive" exclusionary? liberalpragmatist  May-02-09 11:45 AM   #0 
  - Such crap is while I'm proud to never call myself a "true progressive"...  BlooInBloo   May-02-09 11:47 AM   #1 
  - Obama is not a progressive, nor is he a liberal  Somawas   May-02-09 11:53 AM   #2 
  - "Center-right" in relation to what?  liberalpragmatist   May-02-09 12:03 PM   #3 
  - Nixon would be considered a liberal today.  bananas   May-04-09 09:30 AM   #31 
  - "So Obama is cnter-right. Look it up. See where his dot is at"  Political Tiger   May-02-09 12:03 PM   #4 
  - Well, but won't it depend  polmaven   May-02-09 01:57 PM   #10 
  - Let your political compass be defined by the right wing.  Somawas   May-02-09 03:14 PM   #11 
     - I DON'T let it be defined by a WEB SITE  Political Tiger   May-02-09 03:25 PM   #12 
     - So am I, for that matter.  Somawas   May-02-09 10:32 PM   #14 
        - Why not just rely on his record. You don't need subjective political commentary  Liberal_Stalwart71   May-03-09 10:03 PM   #27 
     - Why people continue to call him a liberal is beyond me. There is nothing in his record,  Liberal_Stalwart71   May-03-09 08:43 AM   #18 
        - Well, he sure as hell isn't right-wing.  TwilightZone   May-03-09 09:50 PM   #23 
           - Thank God he isn't. He's a Centrist. And I think in many ways a pragmatist.  Liberal_Stalwart71   May-03-09 10:09 PM   #28 
           - Obama is center-right  bananas   May-04-09 09:44 AM   #32 
  - Sure he is...  TwilightZone   May-02-09 12:55 PM   #5 
  - President Obama in NOT a "Left Liberal"  LostinVA   May-03-09 08:01 AM   #17 
  - People keep saying that....  TwilightZone   May-03-09 09:42 PM   #22 
  - Thank you!, I always use that site when some idiot calls Obama "center-right"  Odin2005   May-03-09 09:57 PM   #25 
  - What you said -- +1  LostinVA   May-03-09 08:00 AM   #16 
  - I doubt Obama cares what people call him  Adelante   May-02-09 01:17 PM   #6 
  - I couldn't agree more!  Undercurrent   May-02-09 01:33 PM   #8 
     - If Obama is able to move something along a 1/2 mile instead of the mile he wants  Adelante   May-02-09 01:49 PM   #9 
  - he specifically denies being one  Enrique   May-02-09 01:22 PM   #7 
  - To make matters worse, he called himself a Clinton Democrat which to me means that he is a  Liberal_Stalwart71   May-03-09 08:46 AM   #19 
  - No, but opposition to marriage equality sure as hell is.  Orsino   May-02-09 07:10 PM   #13 
  - based on his actions and stated positions Obama occupies the ideological postion as Bill Clinton  wyldwolf   May-03-09 07:05 AM   #15 
  - Obma is to the left of Bill.  Odin2005   May-03-09 10:00 PM   #26 
     - Want to compare them issue by issue?  wyldwolf   May-04-09 06:10 AM   #29 
  - Both "liberal" and "progressive" are open to  LWolf   May-03-09 03:13 PM   #20 
  - Progressives usually agree with Liberal ideals.  anonymous171   May-03-09 03:17 PM   #21 
  - I call myself a Liberal and I consider Obama one too.  Odin2005   May-03-09 09:56 PM   #24 
  - I got it - you're a centrist, and so is Obama  bananas   May-04-09 09:28 AM   #30 
  - "Liberal" and "leftist" aren't interchangeable.  TwilightZone   May-04-09 10:31 AM   #33 
  - "not far left" does not equal centrist, though. "liberal" in fact implies "center-left"  Odin2005   May-04-09 02:27 PM   #34 
  - The President is a religiously conservative thinker  Bluenorthwest   May-04-09 02:47 PM   #36 
  - He opposes equal rights for all Americans  Bluenorthwest   May-04-09 02:44 PM   #35 
     - Bullshit!  Odin2005   May-04-09 04:17 PM   #37 

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