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Flashback - Are You Really Surprised? Did President Obama Really "Reconsider"?
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Edited on Tue Apr-21-09 04:46 PM by Median Democrat
Here is HuffPo's story regarding the Senate confirm on Eric Holder. Notice Holder's assurance that he would be independent (He is). Also, notice Holder's refusal to pledge not to prosecute individuals responsible for torturing detainees. So, did President Obama really "reconsider" anything? Are recent events really a big surprise?

Or, did Republicans themselves set themselves up, by making the investigation of torture and the cover up a partisan issue by shamelessly asking for such a pledge?


The debate turned partisan in its first moments, when Leahy, expressed anger that a few Republicans demanded a pledge from Holder that he wouldn't prosecute intelligence agents who participated in harsh interrogations.

Leahy singled out Texas Republican John Cornyn as one who wanted to "turn a blind eye to possible lawbreaking before investigating whether it occurred."

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  -Flashback - Are You Really Surprised? Did President Obama Really "Reconsider"? Median Democrat  Apr-21-09 04:44 PM   #0 
  - This strategy has been in the works for weeks/months. Rahm played  monmouth   Apr-21-09 04:46 PM   #1 
  - President Obama Seems To Have A Knack For Letting Republicans Overreach  Median Democrat   Apr-21-09 04:52 PM   #5 
  - Aww  Realtalk   Apr-22-09 02:07 AM   #39 
     - welcome to DU  TheBigotBasher   Apr-22-09 07:15 PM   #43 
     - And I love yours! Welcome to DU!!  AZBlue   Apr-22-09 10:11 PM   #44 
  - It should only be surprising to those who were sooooo disappointed with Obama...  JuniperLea   Apr-21-09 04:47 PM   #2 
  - They lay in wait for the next move they can criticize....  NYC_SKP   Apr-21-09 04:49 PM   #3 
     - Exactomundo!  JuniperLea   Apr-21-09 04:52 PM   #7 
  - Howard Fineman  ErinBerin84   Apr-21-09 04:49 PM   #4 
  - They can pretty much bitch, piss, and moan  Cha   Apr-21-09 04:57 PM   #10 
  - Our President - "Deliberate, critical and analytical thinker". n/t  lamp_shade   Apr-21-09 04:52 PM   #6 
  - Relieved, not satisfied.  damntexdem   Apr-21-09 04:53 PM   #8 
  - It was never reconsideration on the part of O.  vaberella   Apr-22-09 12:51 AM   #25 
  - No. He didn't reconsider. I feel he wanted the memos out there so no one would question his motives.  NoSheep   Apr-21-09 04:54 PM   #9 
  - By putting the memos out first,  wolfgirl   Apr-21-09 05:09 PM   #11 
  - I Recall FDR Making A Comment In A Similar Situation...  Median Democrat   Apr-21-09 05:43 PM   #12 
  - How appropriate! I'm sitting here every day listening to the naysayers-  NoSheep   Apr-22-09 12:29 AM   #15 
  - Absolutely. Nothing short of perfect, I'd say. wolfgirl is on it.  NoSheep   Apr-22-09 12:23 AM   #13 
  - HELL YEAH!! Exactly. It's that 5 days thing he promised. At this point he came through to me  vaberella   Apr-22-09 12:53 AM   #26 
  - Oh indeed...  Luminous Animal   Apr-22-09 12:36 AM   #21 
     - Maybe people will forget you are an Obama hater if you stop bringing it up!  NoSheep   Apr-22-09 01:22 AM   #33 
  - Don't listen to what I say, watch what I do  Samantha   Apr-22-09 12:28 AM   #14 
  - I don't think anything Obama has said contradicts his actions; a lesson, perhaps  NoSheep   Apr-22-09 12:31 AM   #17 
  - Indeed. Keep the public out of it altogether.  Luminous Animal   Apr-22-09 12:32 AM   #19 
     - Bullshit? You can take that right back into your mouth, first off.  NoSheep   Apr-22-09 12:38 AM   #23 
        - Haha!  Luminous Animal   Apr-22-09 12:45 AM   #24 
           - You, Luminous Animal, are the lowest common denominator.  NoSheep   Apr-22-09 12:57 AM   #28 
              - Casting a wide ilky net, I see.  Luminous Animal   Apr-22-09 01:01 AM   #29 
                 - Pogram? What exactly are you suggesting? Get thee to a psychiatrist.  NoSheep   Apr-22-09 01:13 AM   #31 
                    - It was a joke. The word ilk makes me do silly things...  Luminous Animal   Apr-22-09 01:22 AM   #34 
                       - Now you're starting to interest me. Would you be willing to answer why  NoSheep   Apr-22-09 01:32 AM   #35 
                          - I think I pretty much answered you  Luminous Animal   Apr-22-09 01:48 AM   #36 
                             - I happen to perceive that what you are asking for is EXACTLY what he is doing.n/t  NoSheep   Apr-22-09 03:59 PM   #41 
  - The AG is supposed to be independent...  Luminous Animal   Apr-22-09 12:31 AM   #16 
  - Smack. Yes. That sounds good.  NoSheep   Apr-22-09 12:33 AM   #20 
  - Not surprised and don't believe for one second that it was a "reconsideration"  Hellataz   Apr-22-09 12:32 AM   #18 
  - Are we really dealing with idiots here or what? I have been blown away by the negativity  NoSheep   Apr-22-09 12:36 AM   #22 
  - He never reconsidered. He had one position on the topic and he just clarified it today.  vaberella   Apr-22-09 12:55 AM   #27 
  - I have never heard him contradict himself. I fear we are dealing with  NoSheep   Apr-22-09 01:06 AM   #30 
  - I'm not surprised that Rahm flapped his lips when he ought to have kept quiet  depakid   Apr-22-09 01:16 AM   #32 
  - I was not surprised by the outcome.  Undercurrent   Apr-22-09 01:59 AM   #37 
  - I hope people realize the courage it took to release the memos in the first place  SamCooke   Apr-22-09 02:01 AM   #38 
  - I certainly see his courage. All the time  Realtalk   Apr-22-09 02:08 AM   #40 
  - I picture Obama sitting with his feet up on the desk and his hands behind his head, a smug grin  Arkana   Apr-22-09 04:17 PM   #42 

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