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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 07:31 PM
Response to Reply #98
100. Indeed!
As a letter writer on Glenn Greenwald's site said so eloquently today in a letter to Obama...

"Please do not make the mistake of believing that our commitment to you is stronger than our commitment to our values. We were for civil liberties and social justice before we were for you. Do not make us choose between our ideals or you, because, in your most recent actions we do not see the ideals you told us that you would champion."

http://letters.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/04/13/o...

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  -Enough with the Strawman arguments against those who protest Obama's policies and appointments debbierlus  Apr-12-09 04:53 PM   #0 
  - I find this old post of yours very telling  NJmaverick   Apr-12-09 05:46 PM   #1 
  - "Go John Hedge Fund Edwards!"  FrenchieCat   Apr-12-09 06:12 PM   #6 
  - give it up  Two Americas   Apr-12-09 06:35 PM   #12 
  - If someone is going to be anti-capitalist to this extent,  FrenchieCat   Apr-12-09 06:40 PM   #15 
     - Edwards earned his money as a plaintiff's attorney representing ordinary victims of  JDPriestly   Apr-13-09 05:04 PM   #91 
     - "Step away from the primary..."  niceypoo   Apr-13-09 05:47 PM   #93 
  - Obama is now working for the hedge funds. At least Edwards was  JDPriestly   Apr-13-09 04:59 PM   #89 
  - Dragging out stuff from the primaries is a really cheap, pathetic tactic.  girl gone mad   Apr-12-09 06:22 PM   #8 
  - I like your screen name.  NJmaverick   Apr-12-09 06:55 PM   #19 
  - the post is perfectly reasonable  Skittles   Apr-12-09 07:34 PM   #31 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Apr-12-09 06:29 PM   #9 
  - no crime there  Two Americas   Apr-12-09 06:33 PM   #10 
  - that is the MO of more than a few Obama supporters here  dsc   Apr-12-09 06:36 PM   #13 
  - A certain strain of fragile-egoed personality cultists seem to assume others are similarly afflicted  PurityOfEssence   Apr-12-09 08:58 PM   #58 
     - Eloquently put.  Hawkowl   Apr-12-09 11:51 PM   #62 
  - When someone doesn't like our President, I think it tends to cloud their judgment  NJmaverick   Apr-12-09 06:57 PM   #21 
     - that makes no sense  Two Americas   Apr-12-09 07:38 PM   #33 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-13-09 01:10 AM   #68 
     - Oh, NJM, I like your style. What you said! nt  Flying Dream Blues   Apr-12-09 09:01 PM   #59 
     - So you disregard anything said by anyone who's ever been critical of Obama  LooseWilly   Apr-13-09 04:49 PM   #88 
     - Couldn't liking someone also cloud one's judgment?  Forkboy   Apr-15-09 02:44 AM   #113 
  - How quaintly McCarthyesque.eom  Reterr   Apr-12-09 08:04 PM   #52 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-13-09 12:04 AM   #65 
     - This is the stupidest post i have ever read on DU.  Every Man A King   Apr-13-09 01:06 AM   #67 
  - And, of course,  LWolf   Apr-12-09 05:56 PM   #2 
  - Of course there is a difference between prefering someone else  NJmaverick   Apr-12-09 05:59 PM   #3 
     - Don't let coherence or any kind of point get in YOUR way.  LWolf   Apr-12-09 06:59 PM   #23 
        - Sorry to burst your bubble, but pointing out the glaring flaws in your statements  NJmaverick   Apr-12-09 07:00 PM   #24 
           - .  LWolf   Apr-13-09 07:16 AM   #69 
  - Scold us! Don't stop!  saltpoint   Apr-12-09 06:01 PM   #4 
  - IT'S ONLY A 4 YEAR ADMINISTRATION!!111!!  leftstreet   Apr-12-09 06:05 PM   #5 
  - K & R  Faryn Balyncd   Apr-12-09 06:22 PM   #7 
  - "This type of behavior is disturbingly reminiscent of those who blindly supported Bush" Strawman  ProSense   Apr-12-09 06:34 PM   #11 
  - it is  Two Americas   Apr-12-09 06:39 PM   #14 
  - "A straw man is a mis-characterization of someone else's opinion." So  ProSense   Apr-12-09 06:42 PM   #16 
  - of course not  Two Americas   Apr-12-09 07:39 PM   #34 
  - Your 6th grade English teacher, were he or she still alive, would send the  saltpoint   Apr-12-09 06:58 PM   #22 
     - whatever that means  Two Americas   Apr-12-09 07:42 PM   #37 
        - LOL. You are always veering into these one-minded corners, TA.  saltpoint   Apr-12-09 07:43 PM   #38 
           - too cryptic for me  Two Americas   Apr-12-09 07:50 PM   #46 
              - You're a gas.  saltpoint   Apr-12-09 07:51 PM   #47 
  - You don't seem to know what a strawman is  NJmaverick   Apr-12-09 07:08 PM   #25 
     - here ya go  Two Americas   Apr-12-09 07:41 PM   #36 
  - Ooh....Goody! All the Obama haters all in one thread!  FrenchieCat   Apr-12-09 06:43 PM   #17 
  - Idiocy  Hawkowl   Apr-12-09 11:56 PM   #63 
  - the OP is a consistent Obama hater.  berni_mccoy   Apr-12-09 11:58 PM   #64 
     - Nonsense  Hawkowl   Apr-13-09 12:33 AM   #66 
     - HAHAHAAHAHA  berni_mccoy   Apr-13-09 08:35 AM   #71 
     - Evidently, non worship is hatred.  Dr.Phool   Apr-13-09 03:38 PM   #80 
     - She is an enemy of the people. n/t  QC   Apr-13-09 07:58 AM   #70 
  - You and some others have become really obnoxious.  sniffa   Apr-13-09 06:24 PM   #95 
     - Understatement of the year on that one.  Forkboy   Apr-15-09 02:47 AM   #114 
  - There's little chance of DU 'standing united' anytime soon.  Danger Mouse   Apr-12-09 06:44 PM   #18 
  - Soon? Ever.  Common Sense Party   Apr-13-09 04:07 PM   #83 
  - Some people don't want to stop.  Starry Messenger   Apr-12-09 06:56 PM   #20 
  - You are right, some people don't know when to stop.  ProSense   Apr-12-09 07:15 PM   #26 
     - I think the calls to have Obama fired are pretty silly too.  Starry Messenger   Apr-12-09 07:27 PM   #29 
     - Exactly:  ProSense   Apr-12-09 07:39 PM   #35 
        - I guess all we can do is alert and pray to Skinner.  Starry Messenger   Apr-12-09 07:45 PM   #39 
     - A lot of that list is the same on the vote to give bush the power to invade Iraq.  Stinky The Clown   Apr-12-09 07:32 PM   #30 
        - What about the others?  ProSense   Apr-12-09 07:38 PM   #32 
        - No its not  Stinky The Clown   Apr-12-09 07:53 PM   #49 
        - "The issue on this board is not policy."  Number23   Apr-12-09 07:59 PM   #51 
           - What part of .......  Stinky The Clown   Apr-12-09 08:05 PM   #53 
              - Love how your criticism is confined only to those who have his back  Number23   Apr-12-09 08:16 PM   #55 
                 - I'll give you that ... and to be fair, they probably ought to be lumped in there, too.  Stinky The Clown   Apr-12-09 08:36 PM   #57 
  - what is the point of this post? are you complaining about name-calling (and, where are you?)  kid a   Apr-12-09 07:23 PM   #27 
  - Well stated  HughMoran   Apr-12-09 07:48 PM   #42 
  - Well, being as you are obviously talking about my OP ...  NanceGreggs   Apr-12-09 07:25 PM   #28 
  - NANCE= win. OP = fail  Teaser   Apr-12-09 07:47 PM   #41 
  - Seconded.  saltpoint   Apr-12-09 07:48 PM   #43 
  - Fail with 32 recommendations?  apr09   Apr-13-09 09:28 AM   #72 
     - Okay....FAIL X 32.  Bobbie Jo   Apr-13-09 03:21 PM   #78 
  - Well said!  Spazito   Apr-12-09 07:48 PM   #44 
  - Nance, You Rock Girl! n/t  firedupdem   Apr-12-09 07:49 PM   #45 
  - (the president) has to decide whose testimony, or presentation of the facts and the likely outcome  HughMoran   Apr-12-09 07:52 PM   #48 
  - I agree... but I'm curious to know what about Geithner's plan seemed more compelling.  LooseWilly   Apr-13-09 07:21 PM   #99 
  - I'm very interested in these stats, studies, reports and peer-reviewed publications  Imperialism Inc.   Apr-12-09 10:38 PM   #60 
  - Nancy, Nancy, Nancy.  Dr.Phool   Apr-13-09 03:47 PM   #81 
     - I think it was NOT getting that pony ...  NanceGreggs   Apr-13-09 04:42 PM   #86 
  - ENOUGH WITH OTHER POSTS!  Teaser   Apr-12-09 07:46 PM   #40 
  - Do-Do. That's not a fragment from a late 50s pop chorus. It's a  saltpoint   Apr-12-09 07:55 PM   #50 
  - NAZI!!1  progressoid   Apr-12-09 08:07 PM   #54 
  - The OP appears to have ducked out.  saltpoint   Apr-12-09 08:19 PM   #56 
  - Every top economist?  muryan   Apr-12-09 11:34 PM   #61 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-13-09 12:00 PM   #73 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-13-09 12:22 PM   #74 
  - tough shit. Your incessant whining is tedious and your false arguments  cali   Apr-13-09 12:23 PM   #75 
  - K&R  katandmoon   Apr-13-09 02:37 PM   #76 
  - RECOMMEND  xchrom   Apr-13-09 03:17 PM   #77 
  - Obama wants us to force him to be more progressive, IMHO.  grahamhgreen   Apr-13-09 03:38 PM   #79 
  - I thought we did that when we elected him?  Dr.Phool   Apr-13-09 03:50 PM   #82 
     - He only went to the left on a very few issues during the primaries.  jsamuel   Apr-13-09 04:43 PM   #87 
  - Yes, lets call for an end to dissent against those who dissent  mkultra   Apr-13-09 04:09 PM   #84 
  - Fine, guys. If you approve our treasury being stolen by corporations  debbierlus   Apr-13-09 04:32 PM   #85 
  - Excellent Post  pmorlan1   Apr-13-09 05:02 PM   #90 
  - But he is using all of the same policys and people ..like wire tapping etc  april   Apr-13-09 05:42 PM   #92 
  - Same Anti-Obama Complainers - Different Day  JimGinPA   Apr-13-09 05:50 PM   #94 
  - Not anti-Obama. We are pro-constitution, anti-wire tap/torture, Pro people, Anti- Corrupt Banksters  grahamhgreen   Apr-13-09 07:18 PM   #97 
     - Save Your Holier-Than-Thou Bullshit...  JimGinPA   Apr-13-09 08:21 PM   #102 
        - Jeesh...  Luminous Animal   Apr-13-09 08:38 PM   #104 
        - U hav no game  grahamhgreen   Apr-14-09 07:33 PM   #106 
           - Don't U Have Some Teabag Party Planning To Get To?  JimGinPA   Apr-14-09 07:40 PM   #107 
              - Like I said... Single payer not for profit health care, an end to the Bush wars, No Bailout  grahamhgreen   Apr-14-09 07:47 PM   #110 
                 - You're Welcome To Keep Kicking This Trash Thread Forever If It Suits You  JimGinPA   Apr-14-09 07:51 PM   #111 
                    - I actually want to convince you to get excited about the possibility of lobbying Obama to be one of  grahamhgreen   Apr-14-09 07:57 PM   #112 
  - Anyone remember Bush hater?  Luminous Animal   Apr-13-09 06:32 PM   #96 
  - Do you remember "Bush Derangement Syndrome"?  QC   Apr-13-09 07:21 PM   #98 
     - Indeed!  Luminous Animal   Apr-13-09 07:31 PM   #100 
     - Poutrage! She must not have gotten her pony!  QC   Apr-13-09 08:03 PM   #101 
     - If the shoe fits...  JimGinPA   Apr-13-09 08:22 PM   #103 
  - There is no hope & change. Connect the dots people.  earth mom   Apr-14-09 02:15 AM   #105 
     - Never give up.  grahamhgreen   Apr-14-09 07:41 PM   #108 
     - earth to mom...  kid a   Apr-14-09 07:42 PM   #109 
 

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