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Fri Apr-10-09 10:26 AM
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| 140. if your arguing against free markets |
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you have an endless task ahead of you as no social economic systems has ever worked. Despite that fact, there is no way America is going to kick capitalism. Our only path is properly regulated free markets.
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| -Why not Ralph Nader's idea to solve the financial meltdown? |
brentspeak |
Apr-08-09 07:46 PM |
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Isn't it all going to go down anyway? We're giving them a chance to pull at least some of THEIR |
patrice |
Apr-08-09 07:54 PM |
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Saint Ralph, Will Swoop Down In His Holy Corvair And Save Us All!! |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 08:21 AM |
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So who would you trust more as Treasury Sec? Wall Streets representative or Ralph Nader |
Better Believe It |
Apr-09-09 08:39 AM |
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I'd rather not have that bag of douche in charge of anything. ralph is all about ralph and his ego. |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 09:01 AM |
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You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. I've known Ralph |
salguine |
Apr-09-09 10:12 AM |
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fuck nader. ralph sold out to his ego long ago. pimping the lie that both parties are the same did |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 10:25 AM |
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I love how you engage the issues here |
kenfrequed |
Apr-09-09 10:56 AM |
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ralph knows that he only exists to sap democratic votes. if you've bought into his shtick, i feel |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 11:03 AM |
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A vote isn't "Democratic" until it is cast for a Democrat. |
Romulox |
Apr-09-09 11:05 AM |
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i do like how ralph takes money from right wingers to underminethe dems... |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 11:09 AM |
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Some Dems need to be undermined (Evan Bayh, e.g.) nt |
Romulox |
Apr-09-09 11:11 AM |
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i'm with you on that point. the 15 "conservadems" need to go. |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 11:12 AM |
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What about all of the Republican money given to Obama and John Kerry? |
Better Believe It |
Apr-09-09 11:38 AM |
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the difference would be, purposely obtuse one; |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 02:13 PM |
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The difference is that the vast majority of Obama's and Kerry's contributions came from DEMOCRATS |
karynnj |
Apr-09-09 09:06 PM |
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Hhmm. I thought a lot of right wingers contributed to Obama's campaign. |
avaistheone1 |
Apr-09-09 12:13 PM |
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oh yes, obama was totally funded by the RWers.... |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 12:52 PM |
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You are the one who used the word "totally". |
avaistheone1 |
Apr-09-09 01:42 PM |
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i don't consider anyone who supports nader to be credible... |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 01:51 PM |
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ha |
reggie the dog |
Apr-09-09 05:20 PM |
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no more so than any ralph nader advocate... |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 06:17 PM |
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Well at least Ralph Nader stands for something more than himself. |
avaistheone1 |
Apr-10-09 12:15 AM |
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what about Nader |
reggie the dog |
Apr-10-09 02:08 AM |
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maybe your to stupid to understand dilution. |
mkultra |
Apr-09-09 07:43 PM |
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"Your to stupid"! Ha ha ha! The irony is too delicious!!! LOL! |
Bonobo |
Apr-10-09 04:35 AM |
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LOLOL! |
Romulox |
Apr-10-09 07:04 AM |
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Oh really? |
kenfrequed |
Apr-09-09 11:32 AM |
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Here's a news flash for you, chick pea...There are no "Democratic" votes. There are no |
salguine |
Apr-09-09 12:03 PM |
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Apr-09-09 12:51 PM |
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Not everyone who voted for Nader is/was an idiot. I know that's |
salguine |
Apr-09-09 01:45 PM |
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if you say so... |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 01:53 PM |
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What's funny? Do you have a sensible and reasoned counter-argument, or are you |
salguine |
Apr-09-09 02:02 PM |
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naderites are funny. their holier-than-thou shtick is awesome. did you vote for him? |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 02:05 PM |
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How so? Examples? (see previous post) |
salguine |
Apr-09-09 02:10 PM |
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you're providing the evidence... |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 02:11 PM |
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Again, you offer nothing. The Emperor is naked, folks! This has become |
salguine |
Apr-09-09 02:25 PM |
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have a nice day, nader voter... |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 02:25 PM |
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Did I vote for Nader? I don't recall that. |
salguine |
Apr-09-09 02:36 PM |
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you give a pretty good impression that you did... |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 02:49 PM |
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Where? I never once said any such thing. YOU just decided I had voted for Nader. |
salguine |
Apr-09-09 02:55 PM |
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must have been your rabid defense of the guy... |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 03:01 PM |
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you have no respect for the democratic process |
reggie the dog |
Apr-09-09 05:28 PM |
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gimme instant runoff voting and i'm all for more parties. until then, not so much... |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 06:09 PM |
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well no shit |
reggie the dog |
Apr-09-09 05:23 PM |
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well |
reggie the dog |
Apr-09-09 05:22 PM |
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i would say anyone who bought the Gore = Bush lie is an idiot of the worst sort, yes |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 06:11 PM |
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. |
salguine |
Apr-09-09 07:15 PM |
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i bet you typed something nasty, in defense of nader, and didn't have the stones to let it stand... |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 07:26 PM |
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Nah, I moved it further down 'cause I accidentally posted it after the wrong comment. The |
salguine |
Apr-10-09 01:36 AM |
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seatbelts? |
reggie the dog |
Apr-09-09 05:19 PM |
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It must suck to be so misinformed and uneducated. |
jeffrey_X |
Apr-10-09 01:01 PM |
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Apr-09-09 07:06 PM |
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cool, can you please loudly state your affinity for nader and dislike for obama loud and clear for |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 07:25 PM |
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It's useless to get in the way of DU's Two-Minute-Hate ... mindless Nader-bashing is sport, here. |
TahitiNut |
Apr-09-09 01:41 PM |
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He was always the Clenis of DU |
Lilith Velkor |
Apr-09-09 05:08 PM |
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That's a whole lot easier than attacking the Wall Street crooks that Obama has hired |
Better Believe It |
Apr-09-09 05:32 PM |
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Apr-09-09 05:30 PM |
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Apr-09-09 06:12 PM |
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Apr-09-09 07:07 PM |
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I would rather have the Hamburgler than Ralph |
PBS Poll-435 |
Apr-09-09 09:03 AM |
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LoL! |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Apr-09-09 09:11 AM |
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i woudl rather have boss hog than nader |
mkultra |
Apr-09-09 07:45 PM |
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Ralph is the asshole responsible for 8 years of W. He's an arrogant |
DevonRex |
Apr-09-09 09:28 AM |
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Nader doesn't know a damn thing about this crisis or how to solve it |
Thrill |
Apr-09-09 10:39 AM |
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uhm |
kenfrequed |
Apr-09-09 11:02 AM |
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And you know this how? |
Luminous Animal |
Apr-09-09 06:19 PM |
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I'd pick Wall Street reps in a heartbeat. |
Nicholas D Wolfwood |
Apr-10-09 09:00 AM |
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Ralph hasn't had a good idea in decades. So ROFL at this. |
DevonRex |
Apr-09-09 09:27 AM |
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this thread might be more of an EPIC FAIL than the one bitching about Michelle... |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 09:30 AM |
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I think I'll hang around to see how this turns out... |
DevonRex |
Apr-09-09 09:39 AM |
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don't forget the mortons hot salt! |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 09:45 AM |
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OMG. I never heard of that before. I'm going to the store. |
DevonRex |
Apr-09-09 10:47 AM |
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Akkkkkkkkk you said the N word. nm |
rhett o rick |
Apr-09-09 09:37 AM |
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Incredible! |
ProSense |
Apr-09-09 10:49 AM |
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Well |
kenfrequed |
Apr-09-09 11:08 AM |
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Nobody hates Ralph as much as the "centrists" (see upthread). |
Romulox |
Apr-09-09 11:04 AM |
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I would hate it when he's right, except that hasn't happened in about twenty years. |
Occam Bandage |
Apr-09-09 11:05 AM |
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are you calling me a centrist? LOLOLOLOL them's fightin words... |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 11:07 AM |
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I have no clue who you are. nt |
Romulox |
Apr-09-09 11:09 AM |
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I disagree. Wall Street crooks and their political whores in both parties hate him more. |
Better Believe It |
Apr-09-09 12:12 PM |
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nader is a great anti-coorporate spokesman but he doesnt no shit about ecomonomics |
mkultra |
Apr-09-09 07:54 PM |
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A child could tell you that neoliberal economics are garbage. |
Romulox |
Apr-10-09 06:43 AM |
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if your arguing against free markets |
mkultra |
Apr-10-09 10:26 AM |
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What "free market"? The one propped up with trillions of taxpayer $$$, you mean? |
Romulox |
Apr-10-09 10:51 AM |
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the european systems are actually very similair to our own |
mkultra |
Apr-10-09 12:37 PM |
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Major difference: they don't claim to be "free markets" while funneling trillions to bankers. |
Romulox |
Apr-10-09 12:39 PM |
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but even in sweden |
mkultra |
Apr-10-09 03:03 PM |
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Are you simple? It is moronic to tout the supremacy of the "free market" under the facts that exist |
Romulox |
Apr-10-09 03:05 PM |
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a regulated free market is always better than a socialist economy. |
mkultra |
Apr-10-09 07:13 PM |
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We know damn well that even if Obama were to do everything that useless sack o' egotism asked, |
Occam Bandage |
Apr-09-09 11:04 AM |
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So might as well just give trillions in taxpayer $$$ to private equity! |
Romulox |
Apr-09-09 11:06 AM |
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Ralph has, over and again, proven he has spectacularly bad judgment, |
Occam Bandage |
Apr-09-09 11:08 AM |
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I notice that your responses to this thread don't address the substance of the matter. |
Romulox |
Apr-09-09 11:10 AM |
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Sure, it's technically possible |
Occam Bandage |
Apr-09-09 11:14 AM |
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More Ad Hominems. Can you wake me when you're through? Zzzzzz. nt |
Romulox |
Apr-09-09 11:15 AM |
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who actually has defense company stocks in his portfolio. he's a fraud |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 11:08 AM |
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Ralph. |
AtomicKitten |
Apr-09-09 11:10 AM |
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i have to hand it to ya, you did manage to bring some greens out of the woodwork! |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 11:11 AM |
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The apologists for Wall Street crooks hate Ralph Nader and other progressives |
Better Believe It |
Apr-09-09 11:41 AM |
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-1 |
MadBadger |
Apr-09-09 11:44 AM |
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uh, because ralph couldn't get elected as a dogcatcher? you guys are priceless... |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 12:50 PM |
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Naderites are freakin' hilarious. Nader himself is just irrelevant now. |
DevonRex |
Apr-09-09 12:45 PM |
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they sure are worked into a lather today! Saint Ralph 4 3ver!!! |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 12:49 PM |
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Not anymore irrelevant than John Kerry. Remember him? |
Better Believe It |
Apr-09-09 05:34 PM |
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you mean the powerful senator and chairman of congressional committees? |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 06:37 PM |
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Does he have enough power to get EFCA passed? |
Better Believe It |
Apr-09-09 07:11 PM |
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does ralph? a swing and a miss..... a poor strawman at that as well... |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 07:35 PM |
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It is not clear Obama does -so that is a pretty poor test |
karynnj |
Apr-09-09 09:12 PM |
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You're right. Wall Street crooks have a lot more influence over Congress than Ralph Nader |
Better Believe It |
Apr-10-09 08:31 AM |
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Did you think very hard before writing? |
karynnj |
Apr-10-09 09:45 AM |
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Kerry is a very senior Senator and Chair of the SFRC |
karynnj |
Apr-09-09 09:10 PM |
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The DLC'ers love to blame Ralph Nader for Chimpy's selection |
Sebastian Doyle |
Apr-09-09 01:48 PM |
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not just DLCers. he pimped the utter lie that Gore would be the same as Bush. |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 01:54 PM |
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The number of votes Nader got in Florida was a drop in the bucket |
Sebastian Doyle |
Apr-09-09 02:07 PM |
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how does your post address ralph's lies about Gore equalling Bush? |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 02:09 PM |
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The DLC platform Gore was running on wasn't much different than the platform Chimpy was running on. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Apr-09-09 02:20 PM |
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he may have appeared to have a point as far as the campaign platforms, but the next 8 years |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 02:22 PM |
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Gore wanted Florida, hence Lieberman. |
PBS Poll-435 |
Apr-09-09 02:57 PM |
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And look how well that worked |
Sebastian Doyle |
Apr-09-09 05:08 PM |
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Are you sure he didn't compare Joseph Leiberman to George Bush? |
Better Believe It |
Apr-09-09 07:13 PM |
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admirable strawman, but not a good one.... |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 07:30 PM |
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Nader bashers need to call out the rats in their own party. |
Luminous Animal |
Apr-09-09 05:43 PM |
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Gore couldn't even win his home state of Tennessee. If he had, he'd have |
change_notfinetuning |
Apr-09-09 08:04 PM |
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Nader theads are useful- let's us see who the truly clueless are |
depakid |
Apr-09-09 05:19 PM |
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Yeah, let's see who is truly |
ProSense |
Apr-09-09 07:47 PM |
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ding ding ding folks... we have ah winnah!! |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 09:06 PM |
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If Democrats had followed Nader's advice- rather than enabling and voting for Republican policies |
depakid |
Apr-09-09 09:21 PM |
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If Nader had stayed his sorry ass off the ballot in Florida 2000 |
ProSense |
Apr-09-09 09:34 PM |
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The bottom line that Democrats NEVER acknowledge- and the lesson that they never learn |
depakid |
Apr-09-09 09:58 PM |
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The bottom line is Nader is an idiot. What the hell has he learned? |
ProSense |
Apr-09-09 10:00 PM |
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Stomp feet all you like- the guy's been proven right on just about every major issue |
depakid |
Apr-09-09 10:06 PM |
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"Whereas Democrats became the stand for nothing sell out party" |
ProSense |
Apr-09-09 10:11 PM |
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No, his policies have been been right on the money |
depakid |
Apr-09-09 10:16 PM |
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" Not his fault that so many Democrats... " Not Dems fault he's a loser |
ProSense |
Apr-09-09 10:26 PM |
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Expand the number of financial institutions instead of consolidating |
slipslidingaway |
Apr-09-09 05:24 PM |
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Ralph Nader hasn't had a good idea for at least a decade. n/t |
Phx_Dem |
Apr-09-09 05:43 PM |
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Indeed. |
Luminous Animal |
Apr-09-09 05:54 PM |
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So, who is employed at the banks? Nipple and nose-pierced Café baristas with Ché hemp t-shirts? |
zulchzulu |
Apr-09-09 06:27 PM |
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rofl |
dionysus |
Apr-09-09 06:36 PM |
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I've been looking through the response for one honest engagement of the IDEAS |
Political Heretic |
Apr-09-09 09:26 PM |
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K&R. He is absolutetly right. n/t |
invictus |
Apr-09-09 09:47 PM |
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Ralph was once a giant among men for the good he did the country |
TheKentuckian |
Apr-09-09 10:17 PM |
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Unfortunately, that attitude is why the Democratic party constantly |
Raineyb |
Apr-09-09 10:35 PM |
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They swung to the right because Reagan's bullshit was bought |
TheKentuckian |
Apr-09-09 10:52 PM |
#127 |
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The data shows otherwise |
depakid |
Apr-10-09 05:05 AM |
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Did you vote for Nader? |
ProSense |
Apr-10-09 09:55 AM |
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Dead on kentuckian... Politics is the art of the possible, Nader forgot that and |
digidigido |
Apr-09-09 11:28 PM |
#128 |
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Putting aside the Nader hate, there is a very good reason |
HamdenRice |
Apr-10-09 10:52 AM |
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Of course... |
kenfrequed |
Apr-10-09 03:27 PM |
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This is the same Nader that likes Summers? |
Dawgs |
Apr-10-09 03:36 PM |
#149 |
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