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| 116. There's a poll right now asking what we hate most about DU. |
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My choice, which isn't in the poll, but IS in your OP, is the simplistic, binary, either/or thinking that belongs in grade school, not among supposedly intelligent people.
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| -Obama haters: He is as good as it's going to get. |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 02:02 AM |
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Yeah... Obama's "bar" has been set to... |
Puzzler |
Apr-04-09 02:10 AM |
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Yep. |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 02:11 AM |
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"he's still beating it" |
Oregone |
Apr-04-09 02:39 AM |
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Well, to begin with ........... |
Exilednight |
Apr-04-09 03:59 PM |
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Yes, credit Obama with a "jobless" recovery... |
Oregone |
Apr-04-09 04:48 PM |
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It's not a jobless recovery ............... |
Exilednight |
Apr-05-09 04:20 AM |
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Interesting how that bar moves |
Posteritatis |
Apr-04-09 04:48 PM |
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I stay in that mindset. He's doing a great job. I refuse to tear |
firedupdem |
Apr-04-09 02:11 AM |
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Yep. |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 02:23 AM |
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GLBTs have to wait... |
friedgreentomatoes |
Apr-04-09 12:50 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Apr-04-09 12:52 PM |
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That is similar to how I see it... |
butterfly77 |
Apr-04-09 02:35 PM |
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Giving the "Obama haters" meme more power is self defeating |
Mithreal |
Apr-04-09 03:08 PM |
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Not all are tearing him down with BS. |
Deja Q |
Apr-04-09 09:40 AM |
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Yup. Recommended. |
NYC_SKP |
Apr-04-09 02:22 AM |
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I'm just happy to be |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 02:25 AM |
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The best kind! |
NYC_SKP |
Apr-04-09 02:36 AM |
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check your pm n/t |
firedupdem |
Apr-04-09 02:31 AM |
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He's better than it's ever been |
sandnsea |
Apr-04-09 02:28 AM |
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There are no Obama haters here |
tkmorris |
Apr-04-09 02:35 AM |
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Absolutely agree. The op seeks to divide our community. |
Mithreal |
Apr-04-09 02:56 PM |
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lol.... |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 03:09 PM |
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lol..... |
Mithreal |
Apr-04-09 03:47 PM |
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"as good as it's going to get" -- FDRs leftist opponents thankfully didn't believe that |
Oregone |
Apr-04-09 02:37 AM |
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OK, tough guy, who is waiting in the wings who is any better?? |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 02:41 AM |
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Soo.....this, is, it? |
Oregone |
Apr-04-09 02:44 AM |
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Nope. |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 02:50 AM |
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I thought you were talking about those who criticize period |
Oregone |
Apr-04-09 02:55 AM |
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Yep - I think he's got a fucked up economic team..... |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 03:06 AM |
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I think the "haters" aren't hating, they're just hoping for better... |
LooseWilly |
Apr-04-09 03:03 AM |
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Well.... |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 03:23 AM |
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hehe... I actually said I didn't want to hear about those. |
LooseWilly |
Apr-04-09 04:44 AM |
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Yawn. |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 11:37 AM |
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its the same ole song and dance |
iamthebandfanman |
Apr-04-09 05:09 AM |
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So far so good... |
teknomanzer |
Apr-04-09 02:58 AM |
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As someone whom has been very critical and whom might be tarred or mistaken for a "hater" (I am not) |
w4rma |
Apr-04-09 02:59 AM |
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Ding Ding Ding we have a winner..... |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 03:26 AM |
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We just got that in the stimulus |
sandnsea |
Apr-04-09 04:40 AM |
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Just for the record, we got $120 billion for public works |
jonestonesusa |
Apr-04-09 05:50 PM |
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Uhhm, the "whom"s are misplaced. |
LooseWilly |
Apr-04-09 05:09 AM |
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I think you should lay off the grammar obsession and work on your syntax |
Runcible Spoon |
Apr-04-09 08:19 PM |
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Seconded, what you say is very much a reality. |
Deja Q |
Apr-04-09 09:39 AM |
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Says who? |
Egnever |
Apr-04-09 01:05 PM |
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Did you expect it to turn arround in a month? |
Egnever |
Apr-04-09 01:03 PM |
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The Obama haters will simply do what they always do when confr:onted |
cali |
Apr-04-09 04:20 AM |
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"Who's saying these terrible things about Obama?one?!" and my favorite... |
Number23 |
Apr-04-09 04:46 AM |
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they're here. a small hardcore minority |
cali |
Apr-04-09 06:18 AM |
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Yep. My mom used to warn me against cutting off my nose to spite my face.... |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 11:42 AM |
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Hate much? |
dcindian |
Apr-04-09 05:25 AM |
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nope, sorry. don't hate anyone. |
cali |
Apr-04-09 06:19 AM |
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Thank God you've never passed any judgments on people here. |
Forkboy |
Apr-04-09 07:17 PM |
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i'm a brownbooted jackshirter, myself... |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 11:40 AM |
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bwahaha |
iamthebandfanman |
Apr-04-09 05:06 AM |
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Punctuation and spelling really help an insult. Gibberish detracts from the |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 11:45 AM |
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waiting for what? |
dcindian |
Apr-04-09 05:32 AM |
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Some here act like spoiled 16 yr old brats, crying over their new Porsche cuz they wanted a Ferrari. |
phleshdef |
Apr-04-09 05:42 AM |
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Yep. |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 11:45 AM |
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And why that isn't abundantly clear to everyone.... |
Clio the Leo |
Apr-04-09 06:58 AM |
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I want him to succeed. But keeping the crooks in charge of |
Skwmom |
Apr-04-09 06:58 AM |
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'haters'? Hyperbole is a cheap tactic. |
Bluenorthwest |
Apr-04-09 07:03 AM |
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you must be insulated from slang. |
mkultra |
Apr-04-09 11:43 AM |
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BWAHAHAhhah ahahH ah AHA AH |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 11:54 AM |
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I suppose you're right. Best just let people |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 11:52 AM |
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Dear fucking God |
AllentownJake |
Apr-04-09 07:20 AM |
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Seriesly |
LostinVA |
Apr-04-09 08:37 AM |
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you are incorrect |
mkultra |
Apr-04-09 11:43 AM |
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yep. and the bullshit daily affirmation posts like this one only help to encourage them.. |
frylock |
Apr-04-09 04:49 PM |
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Given the shits the GOP believes are presidential materiel, |
old mark |
Apr-04-09 08:00 AM |
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Comparing Obama to Palin, Pawlenty, or Jindal, there's no contest. |
Deja Q |
Apr-04-09 09:41 AM |
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I think this is why we are seeing Newt resurrected - the GOP's |
old mark |
Apr-04-09 12:08 PM |
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The best ever--which he may be--may not be good enough. |
Orsino |
Apr-04-09 08:07 AM |
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I certainly understand that impulse.....I sweat everything he's doing, too. |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 11:59 AM |
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Gawd bless Amurka! |
leftofthedial |
Apr-04-09 08:28 AM |
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Aw, how sweet. |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 12:03 PM |
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wtf?! |
frylock |
Apr-04-09 04:52 PM |
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I hope Obama gets better ... |
GeorgeGist |
Apr-04-09 09:36 AM |
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Obama's Worst Day As President---- |
Paladin |
Apr-04-09 10:11 AM |
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I doubt the Obama haters will listen |
NJmaverick |
Apr-04-09 11:11 AM |
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Yep - you're right about that. |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 12:05 PM |
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thats what they are hoping frankly. |
mkultra |
Apr-04-09 11:38 AM |
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Yes, and that is exactly why |
LWolf |
Apr-04-09 11:44 AM |
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I can remember Republicans calling people a Bush hater when |
slipslidingaway |
Apr-04-09 11:47 AM |
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Well.... |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 12:13 PM |
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And I'm talking about those who point out weaknesses and |
slipslidingaway |
Apr-04-09 12:28 PM |
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If this is as good as it gets, we'll never live up to the potential promised by our Constitution... |
polichick |
Apr-04-09 11:59 AM |
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I agree with every statement you made except the last one. |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 12:17 PM |
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I've never come across such people here... |
polichick |
Apr-04-09 12:29 PM |
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By some maybe... |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 12:52 PM |
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imo Obama is as strong as we make him - our actions (calls, letters, protests)... |
polichick |
Apr-04-09 12:56 PM |
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Yes, it's a binary choice. Palin or Obama, NO other options. |
Lyric |
Apr-04-09 12:31 PM |
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So if Palin was presented differently you would find her what??? |
Peacetrain |
Apr-04-09 12:46 PM |
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What are you talking about? |
Lyric |
Apr-04-09 12:53 PM |
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No kidding |
Reterr |
Apr-04-09 12:57 PM |
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Funny - I implied none of that in my OP. |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 12:59 PM |
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I think a problem here is that no one knows on the internet who is addressing who |
Reterr |
Apr-04-09 01:07 PM |
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Not sure why there's such a propensity toward hyperbole |
depakid |
Apr-04-09 01:12 PM |
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Again, why read what I wrote when you can just make shit up?? |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 02:00 PM |
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Why use words like "haters" |
depakid |
Apr-04-09 02:34 PM |
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You know what?? You're right. |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 02:39 PM |
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How about just being cool |
depakid |
Apr-04-09 02:56 PM |
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K&R nt |
Laurab |
Apr-04-09 01:16 PM |
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Obama can and should be pushed but ignore that it boils down to |
TheKentuckian |
Apr-04-09 01:45 PM |
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You just said it more eloquently than I did. Thanks!!! |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 02:02 PM |
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Rereading "Team of Rivals" it is interesting to see Fredric Douglas' |
grantcart |
Apr-04-09 02:29 PM |
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Yep. You are absolutely spot on with this Grantcart - |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 02:41 PM |
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Thank you for this post, grantcart. |
Undercurrent |
Apr-04-09 04:13 PM |
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Endorsed. Great post, grantcart. |
saltpoint |
Apr-05-09 04:39 AM |
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Well said! |
Spazito |
Apr-05-09 12:12 PM |
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Well that's an OP bound to lead to productive discussion. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-04-09 03:40 PM |
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I smile and keep reading |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 04:04 PM |
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+1 |
LostinVA |
Apr-04-09 04:18 PM |
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that is what's so depressing |
Skittles |
Apr-04-09 04:20 PM |
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Your thread title is reminiscent of the BushBots of 2002. |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-04-09 04:28 PM |
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Eventuall this accusation comes out...... |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 05:38 PM |
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No, your word usage - tactics - are meant to stifle dissent. It's just plain wrong. nt. |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-04-09 06:30 PM |
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Dissent is patriotic! |
BlooInBloo |
Apr-04-09 08:30 PM |
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Bingo, its becuase the most sever critics are really just being self indulgent |
mkultra |
Apr-04-09 11:50 PM |
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It's never as good as its going to get, it stops getting better when we stop pushing our leaders. |
Political Heretic |
Apr-04-09 05:07 PM |
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You are exactly right about pushing leaders. |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 05:46 PM |
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That's such a profound minority though, and I feel like any criticism gets lumped into this |
Political Heretic |
Apr-04-09 06:01 PM |
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I guess I could have been more specific. |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-09 06:12 PM |
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There's a poll right now asking what we hate most about DU. |
Forkboy |
Apr-04-09 07:19 PM |
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So for you the |
cliffordu |
Apr-05-09 11:17 AM |
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Chicago Tribune (4/5/09): Obama wows a worried world |
steven johnson |
Apr-04-09 08:54 PM |
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A year and a half or so ago there was talk aplenty that Barack Obama |
saltpoint |
Apr-05-09 04:36 AM |
#122 |
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