| -PROMISES, PROMISES: Obama Tax Pledge Up In Smoke |
Purveyor |
Apr-01-09 11:49 AM |
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Good, maybe a few more people will quit... |
polichick |
Apr-01-09 11:51 AM |
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They probably will |
DJ13 |
Apr-01-09 11:55 AM |
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You can tax my monkeysex all you want. |
Teaser |
Apr-01-09 11:56 AM |
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So we should tax vegetable oil? |
DJ13 |
Apr-01-09 11:57 AM |
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yes. |
Teaser |
Apr-01-09 11:58 AM |
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monkeysex? |
davidpdx |
Apr-03-09 04:46 AM |
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Truthfully, I would gladly pay an additional gas tax of about two dollars... |
polichick |
Apr-01-09 11:58 AM |
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Thats not a personal vice |
DJ13 |
Apr-01-09 12:00 PM |
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Well those aren't very bad for a person, but I'd have no problem... |
polichick |
Apr-01-09 12:08 PM |
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You do know that it costs less to care for a smoker over their lifetime than it does a nonsmoker... |
Leftist Agitator |
Apr-01-09 04:03 PM |
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LOL - that early death thing is a real money saver! Maybe you should... |
polichick |
Apr-01-09 04:13 PM |
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... |
redqueen |
Apr-01-09 04:17 PM |
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I'd be thrilled if they would legalize, then tax the shit out of, marijuana. nt |
RaleighNCDUer |
Apr-01-09 02:41 PM |
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good point.. |
flaminbats |
Apr-01-09 02:53 PM |
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Yeah, what's |
laugle |
Apr-01-09 04:15 PM |
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sorry..I don't need tobacco to survive |
flaminbats |
Apr-01-09 05:48 PM |
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Taxing junk food isn't a bad idea... |
polichick |
Apr-01-09 05:51 PM |
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The problem with this, like all regressive taxes, is it hurts the lower class more than anyone else. |
joshcryer |
Apr-01-09 06:26 PM |
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Well, I would sure trade junk food for high-quality food and smokes for health care. |
polichick |
Apr-01-09 06:34 PM |
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Too bad not one smoker is going to be helped by it. |
joshcryer |
Apr-01-09 07:33 PM |
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health care is a get through the day cost.. |
flaminbats |
Apr-01-09 06:51 PM |
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Smokers aren't even going to be helped by this program. |
joshcryer |
Apr-01-09 07:33 PM |
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you missed the point. |
biopowertoday |
Apr-01-09 01:28 PM |
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No I didn't - it's a tax that one can "quit." |
polichick |
Apr-01-09 01:35 PM |
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It's basically luxurizing a non-luxury that mostly the lower class enjoy. |
joshcryer |
Apr-01-09 07:44 PM |
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It's still an optional activity, and thus an optional tax... |
polichick |
Apr-02-09 11:57 AM |
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Some studies show nicotine is more addicting than herion... |
joeglow3 |
Apr-02-09 08:00 AM |
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My dad quit cold turkey, after growing up on a tobacco farm... |
polichick |
Apr-02-09 11:43 AM |
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Fine, but I hope you are consistent with all drugs nt. |
joeglow3 |
Apr-02-09 03:35 PM |
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I'd like to see them all legal, all taxed - and help available for any user... |
polichick |
Apr-02-09 05:34 PM |
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I think, in the scheme of things, you are missing the greater point, that most people will not quit |
RollWithIt |
Apr-01-09 05:16 PM |
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Actually, my dad (who was raised on a tobacco farm) quit cold turkey... |
polichick |
Apr-01-09 05:20 PM |
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I'm not disagreeing with the premise of the tax going to good things... |
RollWithIt |
Apr-01-09 05:55 PM |
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That's just *NOT* true, I know *dozens of people* who are quitting over this. |
joshcryer |
Apr-01-09 05:56 PM |
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See my reply #120 |
RollWithIt |
Apr-01-09 07:22 PM |
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Remember, you don't have to pay taxes on tobacco if you order through the mail. |
billyoc |
Apr-01-09 11:52 AM |
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Customs will start cracking down on mail order cigs, you just watch. |
joshcryer |
Apr-01-09 06:00 PM |
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I'll be watching, alright. The more they crack down on mail order smokes, |
billyoc |
Apr-01-09 06:07 PM |
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Yep, with RYO taxes jumping 2400% the people will find other ways. |
joshcryer |
Apr-01-09 06:12 PM |
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States require payment of "use tax" for things you buy out of state |
slackmaster |
Apr-01-09 06:17 PM |
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Does anyone? Maintaining e-commerce taxes is extraoridnarily difficult. |
joshcryer |
Apr-01-09 06:22 PM |
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I will not pay "use taxes" and I advise everyone else to refuse to pay them. |
billyoc |
Apr-01-09 08:06 PM |
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How do the states keep track? |
avaistheone1 |
Apr-02-09 05:40 PM |
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It's basically voluntary, some e-commerce sites do add them in. |
joshcryer |
Apr-02-09 06:10 PM |
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On most purchases there is no way to track it, compliance is mostly voluntary |
slackmaster |
Apr-02-09 07:50 PM |
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considering the burden they put on the healthcare system, I'm fine with taxing the crap out of them. |
GarbagemanLB |
Apr-01-09 11:52 AM |
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Fat people put as much, if not more, of a burden on the system. |
Celeborn Skywalker |
Apr-01-09 12:52 PM |
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Damn right, tax all those lard asses |
martymar64 |
Apr-01-09 05:02 PM |
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I wanna see a 2400% tax on hamburger meat. |
joshcryer |
Apr-01-09 06:18 PM |
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Also alcoholics. |
joshcryer |
Apr-01-09 06:16 PM |
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Your moralistic post misses the point--that Pres. Obama broke his promise. |
biopowertoday |
Apr-01-09 02:22 PM |
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i guess you finally got one on him |
mkultra |
Apr-02-09 10:32 AM |
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Sigh... |
Leftist Agitator |
Apr-01-09 04:07 PM |
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Yeah, it's basically a win win for the administration. However, people *will* quit due to the hike. |
joshcryer |
Apr-01-09 06:30 PM |
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what do you say to rounding up all HIV+ people and do something with them? |
friedgreentomatoes |
Apr-02-09 11:27 PM |
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I can think of a way that the people "affected" by this can pay zero% of this tax |
Teaser |
Apr-01-09 11:54 AM |
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Smoking killed my grandfather, father, brother... |
azmouse |
Apr-01-09 11:54 AM |
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It killed my dad as well at age 55 in 2003 |
davidpdx |
Apr-03-09 04:45 AM |
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A lot depends on what the definition of a campaign promise is |
bluestateguy |
Apr-01-09 11:55 AM |
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you don't have to pay this tax |
CreekDog |
Apr-01-09 11:57 AM |
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Does this qualify? |
redqueen |
Apr-01-09 12:02 PM |
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Actually I agree he broke a promise |
DJ13 |
Apr-01-09 12:05 PM |
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It seems to me you'd be in a distinct minority there. |
redqueen |
Apr-01-09 12:08 PM |
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What ever happened to the liberal ideal of letting people live their lives |
DJ13 |
Apr-01-09 12:11 PM |
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doesnt mean your right either. |
mkultra |
Apr-01-09 12:16 PM |
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Read Obama's quote above |
DJ13 |
Apr-01-09 12:18 PM |
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i read it and understood it |
mkultra |
Apr-01-09 01:24 PM |
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You obviously dont know the definition of the word "any" |
DJ13 |
Apr-01-09 02:47 PM |
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i don't care to equivocate to that level of minutia |
mkultra |
Apr-01-09 10:42 PM |
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How is raising the cigarette tax telling anyone how to behave? (nt) |
redqueen |
Apr-01-09 12:23 PM |
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Surely you're not that naive? |
DJ13 |
Apr-01-09 12:31 PM |
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It's not the primary reason for the tax. Pretending it is is disingenuous. (nt) |
redqueen |
Apr-01-09 12:33 PM |
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Neither is increasing gas taxes |
DJ13 |
Apr-01-09 12:38 PM |
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lol ok |
shagsak |
Apr-01-09 12:57 PM |
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It will drastically affect behavior in a predictable way. |
krispos42 |
Apr-01-09 06:22 PM |
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That still doesn't mean it's the primary reason for the tax. |
redqueen |
Apr-02-09 09:08 AM |
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The primary reason for the tax... |
krispos42 |
Apr-02-09 05:45 PM |
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So... you're saying Obama isn't raising taxes on the wealthy? |
redqueen |
Apr-02-09 05:52 PM |
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I believe his tax plan includes raising the top tax brackets |
krispos42 |
Apr-02-09 07:14 PM |
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That would be good if second hand smoking didn't affect the health |
vaberella |
Apr-01-09 01:37 PM |
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Good point. |
redqueen |
Apr-02-09 09:09 AM |
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You are exactly right - but I don't see that as a liberal idea |
Samantha |
Apr-02-09 06:18 PM |
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You have to raise revenues somewhere. The children's health program is not a one time thing. |
Zynx |
Apr-01-09 12:58 PM |
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AMEN!! |
flaminbats |
Apr-01-09 02:33 PM |
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I'd love to know |
ohheckyeah |
Apr-01-09 04:23 PM |
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in Georgia it's called the Hope Scholarship.. |
flaminbats |
Apr-01-09 05:26 PM |
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Too bad in 14 states it doesn't even go to fund children because adults are using it. |
joshcryer |
Apr-01-09 06:06 PM |
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Good point! nt |
laugle |
Apr-01-09 04:22 PM |
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sounds like a distortion to me. |
mkultra |
Apr-01-09 12:15 PM |
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Same here. |
redqueen |
Apr-01-09 12:26 PM |
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A tax is a tax. He broke his promise. |
biopowertoday |
Apr-01-09 01:27 PM |
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Yuh huh... welcome to DU. |
redqueen |
Apr-01-09 02:28 PM |
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Don't buy cigarettes. It's really that simple. Enjoy your stay. |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-09 02:47 PM |
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On second thought, keep supporting the corporations that are willingly killing |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-09 02:49 PM |
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Pot calling the kettle black. you are one hijacking this |
biopowertoday |
Apr-01-09 04:30 PM |
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Dude, this thread is ABOUTcigarettes. |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-09 04:56 PM |
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hey dudy, its about Pres. Obama breaking his pledge. Now you know. |
biopowertoday |
Apr-01-09 05:13 PM |
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If you look around, you'll find you're definitely in the minority about that. |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-09 05:14 PM |
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I am not going to follow your mentality of if the herd jumps |
biopowertoday |
Apr-01-09 05:46 PM |
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that is the popularity fallacy |
Lisalisa |
Apr-02-09 10:29 AM |
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Welcome to DU. You sure jumped in with both feet. |
redqueen |
Apr-02-09 10:32 AM |
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That's the AP trying to create the perception that Obama is breaking a promise |
CakeGrrl |
Apr-01-09 12:03 PM |
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It sure is a clear example of our conservative media jumping on any chance |
Overseas |
Apr-01-09 12:27 PM |
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Yes, that's how I see it too. (nt) |
redqueen |
Apr-01-09 12:34 PM |
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I'm compelled to agree; it is spin. |
Deja Q |
Apr-02-09 06:23 PM |
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* |
Blue-Jay |
Apr-01-09 12:05 PM |
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I think we should tax booze.. |
stillcool |
Apr-01-09 12:11 PM |
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aw hell no!!! not me 40's!!!!! |
dionysus |
Apr-01-09 07:05 PM |
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So don't smoke. Problem solved. nt |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-09 12:28 PM |
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Tell that to Obama, he smokes. |
martymar64 |
Apr-01-09 05:06 PM |
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If he does still smoke he doesn't need a discount, he can afford his. n/t |
firedupdem |
Apr-01-09 05:43 PM |
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Since he's the monarch, he probably will get them for free |
martymar64 |
Apr-01-09 05:47 PM |
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No he's the President and people should get used to that. He |
firedupdem |
Apr-01-09 05:50 PM |
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I'm being facetious - I like Obama |
martymar64 |
Apr-01-09 06:10 PM |
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gotcha! |
firedupdem |
Apr-01-09 06:26 PM |
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If you don't go buy cigarettes you won't be affected. Really simple |
firedupdem |
Apr-01-09 12:34 PM |
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Whats weird is - the prices went up in my area WEEKS ago. |
bunnies |
Apr-01-09 12:39 PM |
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Yes they were. n/t |
ohheckyeah |
Apr-01-09 04:24 PM |
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not the stores... the cig companies... they dictate prices like with gas. |
dionysus |
Apr-02-09 07:15 PM |
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Good. As far as the user tax affecting the poor disproportionately, |
stopbush |
Apr-01-09 12:40 PM |
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You do realize cigarettes are more addictive than heroin, don't you? |
martymar64 |
Apr-01-09 05:08 PM |
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Actually, the poorest people used to roll their own, which translated to about $1 a pack. |
joshcryer |
Apr-01-09 06:10 PM |
#131 |
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it's approaching 10 bux now dude... |
dionysus |
Apr-01-09 07:03 PM |
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Smoke 'em if ya got 'em (it's for the children). n/t |
cherokeeprogressive |
Apr-01-09 12:41 PM |
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I dont know if this qualifies as a campaign promise, but I do know this is a hit and run |
MadBadger |
Apr-01-09 12:42 PM |
#37 |
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Huh. You're right. I didn't notice until you said it. |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-09 12:59 PM |
#45 |
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Well they got a bunch of DUers to agree and defend it. |
redqueen |
Apr-02-09 09:11 AM |
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WTF? This is absurd. Tobacco tax does not equate income tax. |
Avalux |
Apr-01-09 12:44 PM |
#38 |
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No, but right wingers and their apologists... |
Orsino |
Apr-02-09 01:27 PM |
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Fair tax |
fifthoffive |
Apr-01-09 12:45 PM |
#39 |
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Smart move. |
TooRaLoo |
Apr-01-09 12:56 PM |
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A whole YEAR??!! |
Leftist Agitator |
Apr-01-09 04:11 PM |
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What happens when |
ohheckyeah |
Apr-01-09 04:25 PM |
#89 |
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Then folks can just grow their own tobacco |
martymar64 |
Apr-01-09 05:10 PM |
#99 |
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Yeah, expect a tobacco underground ala marijuana. |
joshcryer |
Apr-01-09 07:46 PM |
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If you quite smoking your taxes wouldn't go up. Mine aren't going up. |
Zynx |
Apr-01-09 12:56 PM |
#42 |
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Idiot article. With this line of reasoning one could say cap and trade breaks the promise. |
cottonseed |
Apr-01-09 01:28 PM |
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Good point, but don't expect the lying M$M's cheerleaders to notice. (nt) |
redqueen |
Apr-01-09 05:01 PM |
#95 |
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cap and trade is a tax for the wealthy |
Lisalisa |
Apr-02-09 10:24 AM |
#183 |
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As a smoker |
junkiebrewster |
Apr-01-09 01:30 PM |
#50 |
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I highly doubt one person in this thread would support an alcohol tax. |
joshcryer |
Apr-01-09 07:38 PM |
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I'd support increasing alcohol taxes |
depakid |
Apr-03-09 02:55 AM |
#215 |
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Impeachment is the only remedy! Smoke up, Johnny. |
AtomicKitten |
Apr-01-09 01:32 PM |
#51 |
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From what |
ohheckyeah |
Apr-01-09 01:37 PM |
#53 |
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Christ, talk about a bunch of out of context bullshit. And I'm a smoker... |
phleshdef |
Apr-01-09 01:40 PM |
#55 |
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He said any tax. His words were very specific. He clearly indicated he wouldn't effect taxes... |
joshcryer |
Apr-01-09 07:39 PM |
#159 |
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A tax on a product is completely unrelated to income, so you still have no point. |
phleshdef |
Apr-02-09 09:50 AM |
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Apr-01-09 01:41 PM |
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See Post #15. //nt |
Overseas |
Apr-01-09 01:46 PM |
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OMG - Limbaugh was just spewing this same garbage - wow - this might be the big guy himself. nt |
AnotherMother4Peace |
Apr-01-09 02:31 PM |
#63 |
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Sounds good to me. |
WI_DEM |
Apr-01-09 01:47 PM |
#58 |
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At least they don't tax marijuana |
martymar64 |
Apr-01-09 05:12 PM |
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How absurd. This tax is entirely voluntary. nt |
Occam Bandage |
Apr-01-09 01:54 PM |
#59 |
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I can't believe you posted this bullshit article as something serious. |
Political Heretic |
Apr-01-09 02:23 PM |
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This is not a tax on families who make under $250,000. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Apr-01-09 02:35 PM |
#65 |
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While filling up the tank? |
AyanEva |
Apr-01-09 02:52 PM |
#72 |
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Perhaps checking the level in the tank. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Apr-01-09 03:01 PM |
#74 |
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Yeah, but it's kind of a voluntary tax. |
Deep13 |
Apr-01-09 02:50 PM |
#70 |
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Good. |
AyanEva |
Apr-01-09 02:51 PM |
#71 |
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This is an easy tax to avoid |
high density |
Apr-01-09 03:01 PM |
#75 |
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In bizarro world, sure. |
izzybeans |
Apr-01-09 03:36 PM |
#76 |
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can't believe that 8 assholes actually rec'd this. |
SpartanDem |
Apr-01-09 04:16 PM |
#82 |
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I can't believe the thread isn't shut down. |
redqueen |
Apr-01-09 04:19 PM |
#84 |
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Maybe they were being ironic. |
Drunken Irishman |
Apr-01-09 04:49 PM |
#93 |
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Help clean up the environment and say hell no to new tax. Smoke other people's butts. n/t |
greguganus |
Apr-01-09 04:22 PM |
#86 |
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Mods mods hello!!! This is distortion of the worst order. |
Uzybone |
Apr-01-09 04:32 PM |
#91 |
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Why wasn't booze hit with the same tax increase? |
ShareTheWoods |
Apr-01-09 04:34 PM |
#92 |
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Tobacco taxes are unfair! |
Sebastian Doyle |
Apr-01-09 05:13 PM |
#101 |
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I do agree that tobacco taxes are regressive and unfair but Obama broke no pledge. |
Hello_Kitty |
Apr-01-09 05:22 PM |
#106 |
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That's inaccurate |
Fido Dido |
Apr-01-09 05:43 PM |
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Apr-01-09 05:57 PM |
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Indeed, and the vast majority of smokers? They make under $250k a year. |
joshcryer |
Apr-01-09 06:15 PM |
#135 |
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Purveyor, you are a coward! |
MadBadger |
Apr-01-09 05:30 PM |
#108 |
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I am NOT obligated to sit on this thread and defend the topic. This is an AP article |
Purveyor |
Apr-01-09 06:32 PM |
#146 |
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Why not state your take on the 'article'? |
redqueen |
Apr-02-09 09:14 AM |
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Are they taxing alcohol too? n/t |
michaz |
Apr-01-09 05:35 PM |
#109 |
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Good idea. Pot too, as soon as they legalize it. All these things are optional... |
polichick |
Apr-01-09 05:53 PM |
#118 |
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Heresay! |
joshcryer |
Apr-01-09 05:59 PM |
#123 |
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Did you mean 'heresy'? |
redqueen |
Apr-02-09 09:15 AM |
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Just wondered as alcohol can cause some health problems too. n/t |
michaz |
Apr-01-09 06:05 PM |
#126 |
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Alcohol isn't as addictive and most people don't (can't) use it as a vice. |
joshcryer |
Apr-01-09 06:20 PM |
#139 |
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The only "fair" tax is one that affects everyone...tax toilet paper... |
rasputin1952 |
Apr-01-09 06:01 PM |
#125 |
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Bu...bu.. toilet paper is a "necessity"! |
joshcryer |
Apr-01-09 06:06 PM |
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Apr-01-09 06:13 PM |
#134 |
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And may I just add that it is extremely dishonest for you to attack me without giving the context. |
Bjorn Against |
Apr-01-09 06:27 PM |
#144 |
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No I didn't. I said you thought it was fair criticism. |
redqueen |
Apr-01-09 08:19 PM |
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But when you just say that without giving the context it leaves a false impression |
Bjorn Against |
Apr-01-09 08:36 PM |
#164 |
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My post was deleted because you can't link to other posts. |
redqueen |
Apr-01-09 10:16 PM |
#166 |
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Actually you should have been honest and not taken words completely out of context. |
Bjorn Against |
Apr-01-09 10:47 PM |
#169 |
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You see dissent here, I see people backing up corporate media spin. |
redqueen |
Apr-02-09 09:04 AM |
#173 |
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You will also have to agree to quit making me an issue in threads that have nothing to do with me. |
Bjorn Against |
Apr-02-09 09:15 AM |
#178 |
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Narcissistic much? You're not the only person |
redqueen |
Apr-02-09 09:18 AM |
#179 |
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The issue of dissent is not global in scope |
mkultra |
Apr-02-09 10:29 AM |
#184 |
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"Everyone has a right ot dissent." |
Baikonour |
Apr-03-09 01:54 AM |
#213 |
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I'm a smoker and can't say I'm exactly happy about this, but to be fair |
ChimpersMcSmirkers |
Apr-01-09 06:58 PM |
#149 |
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Not really, they don't live as long (and die before health care becomes an issue). |
joshcryer |
Apr-01-09 07:29 PM |
#154 |
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Oh, that's bullshit |
Lorien |
Apr-02-09 09:24 AM |
#180 |
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people who smoke recieve more serious and expensive health care |
mkultra |
Apr-02-09 10:15 AM |
#182 |
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Um, I don't think he meant this when he said "no new taxes". |
Arkana |
Apr-01-09 07:07 PM |
#152 |
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He should not have used the word 'any' in his blanket statement, imo. |
joshcryer |
Apr-01-09 07:31 PM |
#155 |
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April fools! |
HughMoran |
Apr-01-09 09:05 PM |
#165 |
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Obama vetoes SCHIP |
denem |
Apr-01-09 10:20 PM |
#167 |
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Fail. People can quit anytime nft |
ecstatic |
Apr-01-09 10:54 PM |
#170 |
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Excellent. More regressive taxes. |
Zavulon |
Apr-01-09 10:57 PM |
#171 |
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I find your title deceptive |
fujiyama |
Apr-02-09 05:43 PM |
#194 |
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I think he should tax internet usage. |
sniffa |
Apr-02-09 05:47 PM |
#197 |
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I wouldn't mind a tax |
fujiyama |
Apr-02-09 05:52 PM |
#199 |
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No, just usage. |
sniffa |
Apr-02-09 06:04 PM |
#203 |
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My dad quit cold turkey so you all can piss off. |
sniffa |
Apr-02-09 05:44 PM |
#195 |
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Article distorts the truth |
mvd |
Apr-02-09 05:50 PM |
#198 |
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This same 'article' is posted in another thread... |
redqueen |
Apr-02-09 05:53 PM |
#201 |
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Sounds like you tuned in to Glenn Beck |
doc03 |
Apr-02-09 05:58 PM |
#202 |
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we gotta pay for children's health care. n/t |
crimsonblue |
Apr-02-09 06:25 PM |
#207 |
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Oh bullshit. By that absolute standard a rise in state or local tax would make him a liar. |
NYC_SKP |
Apr-02-09 07:54 PM |
#211 |
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Good, smokers should pay more |
Liberalalltheway |
Apr-03-09 02:07 AM |
#214 |
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Why are the poor more likely to smoke than the rich? |
Vinca |
Apr-03-09 06:43 AM |
#218 |
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