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113. May I make it simple - There was never enough $ for healthcare or SS or welfare, but the banks get
trillions.

People are angry.

They haven't started up with the guillotine, like they did in the French revolution.

I think everyone is fairly calm and collected, actually.

Civil discussion, and positive solutions.

Out of Iraq, Afghanistan, decrease military expenditures, decrim drugs, make private prisons illegal, put people who tortured innocent people in jail... etc.

PASS HR 676!!!

Single payer health care.

Let's hear Obama talking about passing that bill and you will hear people being very excited and happy!!!!

Thanks!
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  -There is very little here but anger. Occam Bandage  Mar-30-09 05:45 PM   #0 
  - Anger is often a reaction to fear. And there is plenty to be afraid of.  phantom power   Mar-30-09 05:49 PM   #1 
  - There is a lot to fear in these difficult times  Ocracoker16   Mar-30-09 05:59 PM   #5 
  - It can be fear or it can just be anger  dflprincess   Mar-30-09 10:36 PM   #52 
  - As FDR said "We have nothing to fear but fear itself"  Chisox08   Mar-31-09 04:32 PM   #116 
  - A lot of brick throwing going on.  tekisui   Mar-30-09 05:51 PM   #2 
  - I'm still laughing  crikkett   Mar-30-09 05:52 PM   #3 
  - k&r for a thoughtful analysis  cali   Mar-30-09 05:54 PM   #4 
  - Seconded.  suzie   Mar-31-09 10:13 AM   #73 
  - It certainly isn't a place to get away from all the anti-dem MSM, is it?  DevonRex   Mar-30-09 06:01 PM   #6 
  - Excellent Post!  Hellataz   Mar-30-09 06:06 PM   #7 
  - Stages of grief--more food for thought. Keep in mind that  geiger   Mar-30-09 06:43 PM   #22 
  - RIght ON!  rucognizant   Mar-31-09 08:58 AM   #69 
     - I had meant my post to be a direct response to Occam Razor; I'm glad you picked up on this.  geiger   Mar-31-09 09:12 AM   #71 
  - The problem is..  butterfly77   Mar-31-09 03:34 PM   #115 
  - Good analysis but things are not as bad as they seem  zeemike   Mar-30-09 06:07 PM   #8 
  - I agree. nt  Mithreal   Mar-30-09 07:25 PM   #28 
  - Sometimes voters become angry when the candidate they supported doesn't keep promises. n/t  jody   Mar-30-09 06:07 PM   #9 
  - He hasn't really broken any.  Occam Bandage   Mar-30-09 06:22 PM   #12 
  - Obviously not all agree with you which might account for you not being angry while others are. n/t  jody   Mar-30-09 06:29 PM   #15 
  - I didn't say I wasn't angry. Moreover, what you bring up isn't a matter of agreement.  Occam Bandage   Mar-30-09 06:32 PM   #17 
     - ROFL n/t  jody   Mar-30-09 06:41 PM   #20 
  - He's kept more faster than any politician I remember.  tbyg52   Mar-30-09 07:43 PM   #41 
  - What "broken promises", jody?  Cha   Mar-30-09 06:30 PM   #16 
  - ROFL n/t  jody   Mar-30-09 06:42 PM   #21 
  - Are you going to continue replying to legit questions with "ROFL" or answer them? n/t  spiritual_gunfighter   Mar-31-09 02:11 PM   #106 
     - Read #44. n/t  jody   Mar-31-09 02:16 PM   #107 
        - I read it  spiritual_gunfighter   Mar-31-09 02:20 PM   #108 
           - Maybe I picked the phrase up from my pre-teen granddaughters. n/t  jody   Mar-31-09 02:24 PM   #109 
  - Probably upset over the birth certificate thing.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-30-09 07:28 PM   #30 
  - Not Jody, but answering for fun anyway  lark   Mar-31-09 01:20 PM   #92 
  - Sometimes voters need to chill.  swishyfeet   Mar-30-09 06:33 PM   #19 
  - Here is a nifty site that shows all of Obama's promises , how many kept, broken, working on etc.  Pisces   Mar-30-09 07:39 PM   #38 
     - Pisces, with this link, you win today's  Number23   Mar-30-09 07:55 PM   #43 
     - THank you.  Pisces   Mar-31-09 12:00 AM   #54 
     - Interesting but not authoritative, e.g. Kept "No. 125: Direct military leaders to end war in Iraq"  jody   Mar-30-09 07:56 PM   #44 
     - An excellent resource, thanks for posting this n/t  TechBear_Seattle   Mar-31-09 02:35 PM   #110 
  - This is a very good place to start. I will acknowledge that you are correct.  Gregorian   Mar-30-09 06:12 PM   #10 
  - This is only the 2nd time in my adult life that my country has had a Democratic President.  azmouse   Mar-30-09 06:21 PM   #11 
  - I'm with you, azmouse. I want to enjoy it too.  stubtoe   Mar-31-09 10:20 AM   #74 
  - Nice post indeed,,,,,  daleanime   Mar-30-09 06:25 PM   #13 
  - Razor-sharp, as usual!  Mme. Defarge   Mar-30-09 06:28 PM   #14 
  - You know, I endured a lot of "anger" for supporting Senator Clinton in the primary.  MADem   Mar-30-09 06:33 PM   #18 
  - Excellent post, MADem!  jefferson_dem   Mar-30-09 07:31 PM   #33 
  - Hats off to you.  geek tragedy   Mar-31-09 12:22 AM   #56 
  - the bar you set is in the ground.  biopowertoday   Mar-31-09 12:36 AM   #57 
  - Its Hard To Tell For Me, I've Been More Aggressive With Ignoring Spam Bots  Median Democrat   Mar-30-09 06:45 PM   #23 
  - This is one of the most lucid posts made on DU in days. n/t  phleshdef   Mar-30-09 06:48 PM   #24 
  - yes, lots of anger  dalaigh lllama   Mar-30-09 07:06 PM   #25 
  - I wrote some poetry jam last night that express some of what I see and feel....  FrenchieCat   Mar-30-09 07:15 PM   #26 
  - People are fixated on a "savior"  Holly_Hobby   Mar-30-09 07:21 PM   #27 
  - The angry discontent is flowing from those who use the "savior" label with ridicule.  jefferson_dem   Mar-30-09 07:28 PM   #29 
  - exactly, there ya go n/m  HopeOverFear   Mar-30-09 07:36 PM   #35 
     - Hey thanks...  jefferson_dem   Mar-30-09 07:42 PM   #39 
  - The only people claiming that he is a savior...  TwilightZone   Mar-31-09 12:47 PM   #89 
  - K & R!  Political Tiger   Mar-30-09 07:28 PM   #31 
  - Yes, personally I now have to take about 60% of the posts here with  JayMusgrove   Mar-30-09 07:30 PM   #32 
  - The pot smoking is kind of a running joke. Don't worry if you  JDPriestly   Mar-31-09 12:16 PM   #87 
  - It kinda saddens me  HopeOverFear   Mar-30-09 07:34 PM   #34 
  - this thread was an attempt to address the dissension with "something we can do about it"  omega minimo   Mar-30-09 07:37 PM   #36 
  - There's just as much demeaning and disparaging behaviour as there is anger  ruggerson   Mar-30-09 07:37 PM   #37 
  - I don't know what psychology is behind the name-calling, but I dislike it. nt  tbyg52   Mar-30-09 07:45 PM   #42 
  - It just needs a little bandage huh?  specimenfred1984   Mar-30-09 07:43 PM   #40 
  - Right. The argument is very much about the fraud that the toxic assets represent.  JDPriestly   Mar-31-09 12:22 PM   #88 
  - Business as usual at DU. A lotta heat, very little light.  Common Sense Party   Mar-30-09 07:57 PM   #45 
  - Unfortunately, the financial sector is destroying the real economy  eridani   Mar-30-09 09:23 PM   #46 
  - ...  leftofthedial   Mar-31-09 01:45 PM   #99 
  - There are many here seething in anger at the system itself and at capitalism itself  Jennicut   Mar-30-09 09:44 PM   #47 
  - What suprises me is that there's still bitterness...  burning rain   Mar-30-09 10:06 PM   #48 
  - Agreed. I would have voted for her. However most anger here is coming from those who disliked both.  Jennicut   Mar-30-09 10:11 PM   #49 
  - I agree. I mean, I grew to dislike Sec. Clinton strongly during the primaries, but  Occam Bandage   Mar-30-09 10:33 PM   #51 
     - I grew to dislike her too  PatSeg   Mar-31-09 04:48 AM   #61 
  - I say we focus our "anger" towards getting health care reformed, high cost hurt Americans  uponit7771   Mar-30-09 10:18 PM   #50 
  - How dare you say that the only emotion I express is anger!  jmondine   Mar-30-09 11:59 PM   #53 
  - Another observation: After I spend time on DU, I tend to feel angry.  Ladyhawk   Mar-31-09 12:05 AM   #55 
  - people are losing jobs, homes, health insurance, pensions they worked their entire lives for  flyarm   Mar-31-09 12:40 AM   #58 
  - Thanks, I'm with you.  zalinda   Mar-31-09 01:16 PM   #91 
  - ...  leftofthedial   Mar-31-09 01:47 PM   #101 
  - +1  merkins   Mar-31-09 05:47 PM   #122 
  - Well said. People who aren't angry right now are over privileged.  Political Heretic   Apr-01-09 01:19 AM   #127 
  - .  omega minimo   Mar-31-09 01:09 AM   #59 
  - It's like the bumper sticker says...  FlyingSquirrel   Mar-31-09 04:36 AM   #60 
  - Bravo! It neede to be said, and you said it VERY well!  ColesCountyDem   Mar-31-09 04:59 AM   #62 
  - I've noticed this as well  Roadless   Mar-31-09 05:08 AM   #63 
  - my anger goes back to the 1960's and includes anger at you.  tomp   Mar-31-09 06:14 AM   #64 
  - So, if I'm reading you right, you're angry at me for not thinking Obama is anti-Americans.  Occam Bandage   Mar-31-09 09:10 AM   #70 
  - And here is the PERFECT example of what OB is talking about.  DevonRex   Mar-31-09 10:54 AM   #81 
  - It's more than a little disingenuous for Centrists to admonish us not to be angry  Romulox   Mar-31-09 06:50 AM   #65 
  - I'm not a centrist, I'm not admonishing, and I'm not claiming anyone's angrier than anyone else.  Occam Bandage   Mar-31-09 09:12 AM   #72 
  - You identified the causes of our anger very well, but don't understand the criticism, particularly  leveymg   Mar-31-09 06:58 AM   #66 
  - Great Post Leveymg  Mermaid7   Mar-31-09 10:25 AM   #76 
  - Steiglitz's idea makes sense to me. But, Bernanke made his career with a paper about "inefficient"  leveymg   Mar-31-09 11:25 AM   #84 
  - Allow me to welcome you to DU, Mermaid 7  leveymg   Mar-31-09 11:29 AM   #85 
     - Leveymg  Mermaid7   Mar-31-09 01:23 PM   #93 
  - ...  leftofthedial   Mar-31-09 01:50 PM   #102 
  - Yeah, I agree. I'm very glad we have someone in the WH who is not as pissed as me. nt  Smith_3   Mar-31-09 07:33 AM   #67 
  - K & Highly recommended  Christa   Mar-31-09 07:44 AM   #68 
  - You said it far better than I could.  Nicholas D Wolfwood   Mar-31-09 10:20 AM   #75 
  - The conservatives are stepping up their attacks  Turbineguy   Mar-31-09 10:36 AM   #77 
  - And as a PS:  Turbineguy   Mar-31-09 11:37 AM   #86 
     - ...  leftofthedial   Mar-31-09 01:51 PM   #103 
  - Well said. That's why I pretty much avoid these forums.  redqueen   Mar-31-09 10:37 AM   #78 
  - Too much negative energy flowing worldwide...  Butch350   Mar-31-09 10:45 AM   #79 
  - We're in control of our own energy.  redqueen   Mar-31-09 10:47 AM   #80 
  - You've got that right  JuniperLea   Mar-31-09 10:57 AM   #82 
  - I think that's what I meant?  Butch350   Mar-31-09 05:06 PM   #121 
  - A system that fails so many of us so thoroughly guarantees it. n/t  Orsino   Mar-31-09 10:57 AM   #83 
  - Sorry, but if you aren't angry with the Obama administration & Congress then you aren't  earth mom   Mar-31-09 01:05 PM   #90 
  - earth mom - your view matches that of we who knew we were getting a corporatist yet still voted  T Wolf   Mar-31-09 01:47 PM   #100 
  - ...  leftofthedial   Mar-31-09 01:53 PM   #104 
  - Made me remember Oddball: "There you go with the negative waves, man." link:  FailureToCommunicate   Mar-31-09 01:25 PM   #94 
  - This is the second thread in as many days to make it to the Greatest Page on this topic  MessiahRp   Mar-31-09 01:26 PM   #95 
  - And your post is an intelligent, articulate critique  PatSeg   Mar-31-09 01:31 PM   #96 
  - Spot On MessiahRp  Mermaid7   Mar-31-09 01:43 PM   #97 
  - ...  leftofthedial   Mar-31-09 01:54 PM   #105 
  - I make the choice to be positive.  PLR_Writer   Mar-31-09 01:44 PM   #98 
  - Your analysis of how Obama is missing the point is not true  truedelphi   Mar-31-09 02:56 PM   #111 
  - I can be very specific about my anger  notesdev   Mar-31-09 03:15 PM   #112 
  - May I make it simple - There was never enough $ for healthcare or SS or welfare, but the banks get  grahamhgreen   Mar-31-09 03:27 PM   #113 
  - It's been that way since I joined.  izzybeans   Mar-31-09 03:30 PM   #114 
  - That's one reason why I posted this in the first place  derby378   Mar-31-09 04:39 PM   #117 
  - Yes, just look at the virulent hatred of Krugman  nichomachus   Mar-31-09 04:39 PM   #118 
  - They are well within their patriotic duty!  RedCloud   Mar-31-09 04:42 PM   #119 
  - Justified anger should be expressed..  ananda   Mar-31-09 04:46 PM   #120 
  - Exactly!  Mermaid7   Mar-31-09 08:05 PM   #124 
  - Beautifully written and expressed. Unfortunately, probably a bit too cerebral and enlightened  K Gardner   Mar-31-09 05:53 PM   #123 
  - Don't you realize we're screwed and there are no answers?  tomreedtoon   Mar-31-09 10:30 PM   #125 
  - There isn't anger, but there sure is a fuck ton of hyberbole.  Baikonour   Apr-01-09 01:05 AM   #126 
  - +1 Democrats embrace individuality and seek open discussions.  Sunnyshine   Apr-01-09 01:58 AM   #128 
  - this trivializes what people are saying  Two Americas   Apr-01-09 02:23 PM   #129 
 

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