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134. "embarrassing" is the word that keeps popping into my head when I read GD-P lately.
And I'm hardly the brightest bulb in the room. :)

If you say something positive about Krugman than you hate Obama. If you say something positive about Obama than you hate Krugman. The shallowness of this thought process is the epitome of embarrassing, and there's clearly a ton of people here who can't think beyond that simplistic framework. Too many try to reduce every single issue or personality down a basic either/or love them or hate them proposition.

It makes me want to live in the middle of nowhere like Jeremiah Johnson and just eat beef jerky all day. :crazy:
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  -Paul Krugman Has Never Liked Obama Barack_America  Mar-30-09 09:08 AM   #0 
  - Keynes never really liked Roosevelt that much either  AllentownJake   Mar-30-09 09:14 AM   #1 
  - Paul Krugman, the Douchebag's Keynes  John the Revelator   Mar-30-09 09:44 PM   #103 
  - Krugman worked for Reagan and Enron... he shouldn't talk about "betraying the left"  ClarkUSA   Mar-30-09 09:14 AM   #2 
  - When did Krugman work for Reagan?  Reterr   Mar-30-09 09:28 AM   #11 
     - Krugman worked on Reagans Council of Economic Advisers during 19821983  ClarkUSA   Mar-30-09 09:38 AM   #16 
     - Oops...someone got quiet all of a sudden  BeyondGeography   Mar-30-09 09:47 AM   #18 
     - Heh heh  ClarkUSA   Mar-30-09 09:52 AM   #23 
     - Nah I have an actual life and a job and had to leave for that  Reterr   Mar-30-09 06:30 PM   #96 
     - so he bailed out of Reaganism -- after seeing it first hand -- about 16 years before the inevitable  omega minimo   Mar-30-09 11:03 AM   #48 
     - By 1982, he still needed to see supply-side was a sham first hand?  BeyondGeography   Mar-30-09 01:38 PM   #71 
        - What has he done in the decade and a half since then?  omega minimo   Mar-30-09 01:46 PM   #73 
           - Apart from the $50,000 fee from Enron, you mean?  BeyondGeography   Mar-30-09 01:54 PM   #75 
           - "The Sainthood Commission" -- this is just a game to you  omega minimo   Mar-30-09 01:59 PM   #76 
           - 26 years is a decade and a half? n/t  bornskeptic   Mar-31-09 10:27 AM   #133 
     - Wow... a whole year.  Kalyke   Mar-30-09 11:54 AM   #55 
     - Can you name one advice that Krugman gave Reagan?  ArchieStone1   Mar-30-09 01:14 PM   #69 
     - uh oh  CTLawGuy   Mar-30-09 06:36 PM   #98 
     - That is like criticizing a lawyer for working for the DOJ in a Republican administration.  LooseWilly   Mar-30-09 10:04 PM   #108 
     - yeah with Larry Summers  Wetzelbill   Mar-30-09 11:19 PM   #117 
        - Did Summers work for Enron, too?  ClarkUSA   Mar-31-09 09:47 AM   #129 
           - Do you always change the point  Wetzelbill   Mar-31-09 07:59 PM   #136 
     - Don't be fooled by Krugman  Every Man A King   Mar-30-09 10:54 AM   #44 
  - It's not about like and dislike. It's about a plan that rewards theft and won't fix anything. (nt)  w4rma   Mar-30-09 09:15 AM   #3 
  - The point of this piece that Krugman's obvious personal dislike of Obama...  Barack_America   Mar-30-09 09:16 AM   #5 
     - Now that seems to be a perfectly reasonable conclusion  LooseWilly   Mar-30-09 10:20 PM   #110 
  - I have never really liked eggplant.  QC   Mar-30-09 09:15 AM   #4 
  - When has Krugman supported Obama?  Barack_America   Mar-30-09 09:18 AM   #6 
  - Here's an archive of video where he supports Obama's plans.  Starry Messenger   Mar-30-09 09:34 AM   #14 
  - "Everyone knows you for your flaming columns in the New York Times".  Barack_America   Mar-30-09 09:47 AM   #19 
     - Hyperbole is a wonderful thing.  LooseWilly   Mar-30-09 10:46 PM   #114 
  - Y'all are really starting to look stupid with this. Do you think Krugman supported McCain??  chimpymustgo   Mar-30-09 12:15 PM   #62 
  - You already look  Cha   Mar-30-09 06:15 PM   #90 
     - What the hell are you talking about? (n/t)  LooseWilly   Mar-31-09 12:49 AM   #125 
  - I'm confused...  LooseWilly   Mar-30-09 10:29 PM   #112 
  - eggplant is the enemy of the people  dionysus   Mar-30-09 09:18 AM   #7 
  - I LOVE eggplant.  Beacool   Mar-30-09 10:24 AM   #31 
  - i've been giving him a break  dionysus   Mar-30-09 10:35 AM   #36 
  - Hi, yourself!!  Beacool   Mar-30-09 10:45 AM   #41 
  - You do realize that baba ganoush is an Iranian dish?  LooseWilly   Mar-31-09 12:45 AM   #124 
     - Wow!!!!  Beacool   Mar-31-09 10:13 AM   #130 
  - Go to Sicily. Go into any restaurant or trattoria and order "Pasta Norma."  CTyankee   Mar-30-09 12:08 PM   #57 
     - ok, i have nothing against eggplant, i was riffing on a poster who spent the last few days replying  dionysus   Mar-30-09 12:11 PM   #60 
     - Oh, sorry. I didn't get in on the joke. Thanks for telling me. Go to Sicily and order  CTyankee   Mar-30-09 12:15 PM   #63 
        - if i ever have the money to make it to europe, i will, thanks!  dionysus   Mar-30-09 12:19 PM   #65 
     - It sounded delicious.  Beacool   Mar-31-09 10:21 AM   #131 
  - how can you not like eggplant? It's a prince of the vegetable kingdom?  cali   Mar-30-09 09:27 AM   #9 
     - Finally!!!  Beacool   Mar-31-09 10:22 AM   #132 
  - No, Paul Krugman has never liked Obama's healthcare plan.  BzaDem   Mar-30-09 09:25 AM   #8 
  - If so, then why the overly personal tone when Krugman writes about Obama?  Barack_America   Mar-30-09 09:34 AM   #13 
  - Cuz when he spanked Obama on mandates, we spanked him back  BeyondGeography   Mar-30-09 09:48 AM   #20 
  - That article really just drives home my point.  BzaDem   Mar-30-09 09:50 AM   #22 
  - Just because you agree with Krugman's personal attacks on Obama supporters...  Barack_America   Mar-30-09 09:53 AM   #24 
     - I agree that more care should be given to an NYT column than a DU post.  BzaDem   Mar-30-09 10:26 AM   #32 
     - Had Krugman come to DU or Kos to do that would have been one thing.  Barack_America   Mar-30-09 10:36 AM   #37 
     - Krugman is an op-ed columnist, he is not and has never claimed to be a journalist.  Bjorn Against   Mar-30-09 11:03 PM   #116 
  - You've got to be kidding...  LooseWilly   Mar-31-09 12:59 AM   #126 
  - I may be wrong, but I suspect you're out of your gourd...  LooseWilly   Mar-31-09 02:18 AM   #128 
  - I agree with your post.  Beacool   Mar-30-09 10:30 AM   #34 
  - Seriously, why can't people ignore the WWF posturing and stick to the facts?  rucky   Mar-30-09 11:04 AM   #49 
  - Krugman defending Obama,  Aloha Spirit   Mar-30-09 09:27 AM   #10 
  - Yes, but,  MadHound   Mar-30-09 09:29 AM   #12 
  - Then why is only Krugman getting the attention?  Barack_America   Mar-30-09 09:39 AM   #17 
     - Could be, but more likely it is because Krugman is the best know economist out there  MadHound   Mar-30-09 10:15 AM   #28 
     - If Galbraith or Stiglitz wrote two columns a week in prominent publication  amandabeech   Mar-31-09 10:29 PM   #137 
  - I think we should decend on his home with torches and pitchforks!  Marrah_G   Mar-30-09 09:37 AM   #15 
  - Actually, no.  Barack_America   Mar-30-09 09:50 AM   #21 
     - You are wrong, as the piece gives justification to those  biopowertoday   Mar-30-09 10:06 AM   #27 
        - Um, since when do I need permission to like or dislike anyone?  Barack_America   Mar-30-09 10:22 AM   #30 
           - never said you needed  biopowertoday   Mar-30-09 02:11 PM   #78 
  - I don't think personalities have anything to do with it.  smoogatz   Mar-30-09 09:55 AM   #25 
  - This is the Enforcers' new tactic: discredit those who disagree by saying they never supported Obama  Maven   Mar-30-09 10:03 AM   #26 
  - Oh I have no intention of smearing Paul Krugman.  Barack_America   Mar-30-09 10:30 AM   #33 
  - Nah. I have seen plenty from the Enforcers here, who use the same exact tactic.  Maven   Mar-30-09 10:44 AM   #39 
     - Journalism should be objective.  Barack_America   Mar-30-09 10:47 AM   #42 
        - Krugman is an op/ed columnist, with a point of view. An upapologetically liberal point of view.  Maven   Mar-30-09 10:55 AM   #45 
           - The problem is this: Obama never claimed to be a liberal. Everyone else assumed him to be  Liberal_Stalwart71   Mar-30-09 11:18 AM   #51 
              - I never assumed him to be.  Maven   Mar-30-09 11:36 AM   #53 
              - No I'm not. I think Krugman is unprofessional and hurting his credibility  Liberal_Stalwart71   Mar-30-09 02:26 PM   #79 
                 - I think when you've been railing against one set of economic ideas for a long time  Maven   Mar-30-09 02:33 PM   #80 
                    - Let's be honest, though. With all due respect to Krugman and his ideals, I don't  Liberal_Stalwart71   Mar-30-09 02:39 PM   #84 
                       - Well, perhaps that's true but the circumstances were different.  Maven   Mar-30-09 02:50 PM   #86 
              - Right now, neither Bill nor Hillary are making economic policy.  amandabeech   Mar-31-09 10:34 PM   #138 
  - it doesn't really matter if he supported Obama or not, he's still a buffoon  John the Revelator   Mar-30-09 09:49 PM   #105 
  - That is why his voice is valuable. He is not blinded by his personal feelings like I am.  anonymous171   Mar-30-09 10:20 AM   #29 
  - I think grownups would consider the entire idea that Krugman dislikes  wisteria   Mar-30-09 10:34 AM   #35 
  - I think the point is that Krugman has clearly allowed his personal feelings and personal agendas...  Barack_America   Mar-30-09 10:39 AM   #38 
     - Or he thinks that the bailout plan is economically unsound  TayTay   Mar-30-09 10:52 AM   #43 
     - I don't find objectivity in stating "facts" silly.  Barack_America   Mar-30-09 12:22 PM   #66 
        - What personality?  TayTay   Mar-30-09 01:36 PM   #70 
           - Please see the articles linked in the OP piece. nt  Barack_America   Mar-30-09 01:38 PM   #72 
     - the "right" to "suspect an agenda" while eating our own, ignoring the urgent economic realities.  omega minimo   Mar-30-09 11:02 AM   #47 
     - I agree wholeheartedly!! If you're going to have any kind of credibility, leave your personal  Liberal_Stalwart71   Mar-30-09 11:20 AM   #52 
  - I think that says a lot about the unrelenting criticsm of Obama on DU too  WI_DEM   Mar-30-09 10:45 AM   #40 
  - I didn't find any reason to dislike Krugman in the links.  Vattel   Mar-30-09 10:59 AM   #46 
  - The contempt for Obama on behalf of Krugman is palpitable and goes back  Liberal_Stalwart71   Mar-30-09 11:14 AM   #50 
  - he never liked Bush, either  paulk   Mar-30-09 11:53 AM   #54 
  - I was just about to post that same line!  SemiCharmedQuark   Mar-30-09 11:55 AM   #56 
  - on the house!  paulk   Mar-30-09 12:11 PM   #59 
  - Succinct and well stated.  Maven   Mar-30-09 12:11 PM   #58 
  - If his policy disputes with Bush were based on a personal dislike, then yes.  Barack_America   Mar-30-09 12:17 PM   #64 
  - you haven't even begun to prove  paulk   Mar-30-09 12:41 PM   #67 
     - Well, "paulk", if we're going by the notion that your screenname speaks for you...  Barack_America   Mar-30-09 01:00 PM   #68 
        - LOL  paulk   Mar-30-09 02:34 PM   #81 
        - That poster is on  Cha   Mar-30-09 06:24 PM   #94 
           - You are wrong about that. One can like a person but not necessarily all of his ideas. n/t  wisteria   Mar-30-09 09:37 PM   #102 
           - You're a deep thinker, that much is obvious,.  Forkboy   Mar-30-09 09:45 PM   #104 
              - yup...  paulk   Mar-31-09 02:55 PM   #135 
  - Bush is a conservative  CTLawGuy   Mar-30-09 06:44 PM   #100 
  - Krugman has become the biggest ass hat on the left.  TexasObserver   Mar-30-09 12:13 PM   #61 
  - Oh, he's an ASS HAT... THAT explains it.......  omega minimo   Mar-30-09 01:48 PM   #74 
     - Resistance is futile  burythehatchet   Mar-30-09 09:49 PM   #106 
        - LOL Honey, ah'm done.  omega minimo   Mar-30-09 10:58 PM   #115 
  - get over it  mix   Mar-30-09 02:10 PM   #77 
  - Who said "enemy"?  Barack_America   Mar-30-09 02:39 PM   #85 
  - cheap smear  mix   Mar-30-09 10:17 PM   #109 
  - You "get over it" and reread the OP  Cha   Mar-30-09 06:22 PM   #92 
  - How many of you that "dislike" Krugman can say they've actually read his work?  Baikonour   Mar-30-09 02:35 PM   #82 
  - I can. n/t  quiller4   Mar-30-09 09:57 PM   #107 
  - What happened to Obama's Team of Rivals?...  lame54   Mar-30-09 02:38 PM   #83 
  - This is a very short OPed.  Starry Messenger   Mar-30-09 02:51 PM   #87 
  - This is correct  NJmaverick   Mar-30-09 03:07 PM   #88 
  - I didn't know this little rat cheese tidbit..  Cha   Mar-30-09 06:13 PM   #89 
  - What is this, Junior High?!?  Sparkly   Mar-30-09 06:20 PM   #91 
  - Couldn't agree more  tkmorris   Mar-30-09 10:27 PM   #111 
  - "embarrassing" is the word that keeps popping into my head when I read GD-P lately.  Forkboy   Mar-31-09 12:58 PM   #134 
  - No. GD: P is like hgh school. Nothing but cheerleaders and bullies. n/t  QC   Mar-30-09 11:24 PM   #118 
  - Hey, don't leave out the freaks and geeks!  Starry Messenger   Mar-30-09 11:38 PM   #120 
  - it surely is pathetic, eh Sparkly  Skittles   Mar-31-09 12:26 AM   #122 
  - Oh, get over it. I'm sure Obama doesn't keep a Burn Book a la Mean Girls.  camera obscura   Mar-30-09 06:23 PM   #93 
  - You "get over it"..  Cha   Mar-30-09 06:25 PM   #95 
  - Seriously.eom  Reterr   Mar-30-09 06:31 PM   #97 
  - "Like O'Reilly. Can we please hold ourselves to a higher standard than that? "  depakid   Mar-30-09 06:41 PM   #99 
  - My Obama, Right or Wrong?  merkins   Mar-30-09 06:56 PM   #101 
  - "Never Liked?"  elleng   Mar-30-09 10:37 PM   #113 
  - except he wasn't a Clinton supporter and he was right about Obama's health plan  Wetzelbill   Mar-30-09 11:31 PM   #119 
  - Nicely stated. nt  Captain Hilts   Mar-31-09 12:27 AM   #123 
  - that does not mean he is not telling the truth  Skittles   Mar-31-09 12:25 AM   #121 
  - .  omega minimo   Mar-31-09 01:10 AM   #127 
  - Krugman was an Edwards supporter, not a Hillary supporter  Juche   Mar-31-09 11:38 PM   #139 

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