PretzelWarrior
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Thu Mar-19-09 06:05 AM
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| 37. that may be. but the essence of opportunity cost, possibilities curve |
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etc are all valuable pieces for students of eight grade and high school to put into their arsenal. Then from there they can add to it with true rate of change economics with calculus.
If young people understand equilibrium price, marginal profit, negative effects of monopolies on equilibrium price, etc.. it would make our country work a lot better.
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| -Funny that trigonometry is more widely taught than economics |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Mar-18-09 10:51 PM |
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Drudge was Wrong about every thing else - why read him now |
FreakinDJ |
Mar-18-09 10:54 PM |
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and more than ethics, When was the last time somebody that wasn't |
grantcart |
Mar-18-09 10:55 PM |
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I know I passed trig because it was required, but literally have no memory of it |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Mar-18-09 11:02 PM |
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Is this going to affect us prebendalists??? |
cliffordu |
Mar-18-09 11:55 PM |
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ok I know I am going to regret this but WTF is a prebendalist? |
grantcart |
Mar-19-09 12:20 PM |
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Well..... |
cliffordu |
Mar-19-09 12:39 PM |
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OK thats what I thought |
grantcart |
Mar-19-09 12:50 PM |
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Wear a funny hat, no sex, speak latin.... |
cliffordu |
Mar-19-09 05:27 PM |
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Everyone who needs to know how tall a tree is |
karynnj |
Mar-19-09 05:46 PM |
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Not only should micro and macro be required- but also basic statistics |
depakid |
Mar-18-09 11:04 PM |
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There's no reality to any "study" of either of the 3 without calclus first... |
BlooInBloo |
Mar-18-09 11:05 PM |
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Basics can be taught with little more than algebra |
depakid |
Mar-18-09 11:17 PM |
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If by "basics", you mean "nothing of any value whatsoever", then yes. |
BlooInBloo |
Mar-18-09 11:32 PM |
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Basic concepts have TONS of value |
depakid |
Mar-19-09 12:09 AM |
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(facepalm) |
BlooInBloo |
Mar-19-09 12:13 AM |
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Oh good grief- you can grasp all sorts of basic principles that help understand the world. |
depakid |
Mar-19-09 12:23 AM |
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Sure there is |
Hippo_Tron |
Mar-19-09 12:25 AM |
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(shrug) You can say pretty words, and draw pretty pictures all you want... |
BlooInBloo |
Mar-19-09 12:28 AM |
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Seems to me that with the emphasis on polling in the states |
depakid |
Mar-19-09 01:00 AM |
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You can't, unless you either (a) lie to the, or (b) enjoy getting blank stares... |
BlooInBloo |
Mar-19-09 01:38 AM |
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Not true - you can very easily teach the CONCEPT of sampling |
karynnj |
Mar-19-09 06:03 PM |
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I will agree with you to a certain extent |
Hippo_Tron |
Mar-19-09 01:08 AM |
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For macro, difference/differential eq is needed. And the notion that calculus is Ph.D. level... |
BlooInBloo |
Mar-19-09 01:23 AM |
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I wasn't saying calculus is a PhD level |
Hippo_Tron |
Mar-19-09 01:48 AM |
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Wow. Do you get out much? |
joeglow3 |
Mar-19-09 07:56 AM |
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I agree that HS kids should need to know |
Lucky Luciano |
Mar-19-09 08:28 AM |
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I guess that poster means finance, and not econ.... |
BlooInBloo |
Mar-19-09 09:25 AM |
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Some math and stats majors have overinflated opinions of their usefulness in social sciences. |
Zynx |
Mar-19-09 08:48 AM |
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(a) I don't know why you think I said you could.... |
BlooInBloo |
Mar-19-09 09:26 AM |
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You can teach someone what is behind maximization functions without |
Zynx |
Mar-19-09 08:38 AM |
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That is the stupidest justification I have ever heard. |
BzaDem |
Mar-19-09 06:16 PM |
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That's like saying it's not worth teaching people about gravity |
Hippo_Tron |
Mar-19-09 12:10 AM |
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That shallow of a level IS a magical fairy. |
BlooInBloo |
Mar-19-09 12:14 AM |
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Jesus, the arrogance is amazing. |
joeglow3 |
Mar-19-09 08:00 AM |
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that may be. but the essence of opportunity cost, possibilities curve |
PretzelWarrior |
Mar-19-09 06:05 AM |
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And what percentage of the population have the wherewithal to do calculus? |
AngryAmish |
Mar-19-09 08:21 AM |
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So for any self-respecting person to live should they have to know all the biochemical |
Zynx |
Mar-19-09 08:40 AM |
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You don't need calculus to learn the basics of statistics |
PVnRT |
Mar-19-09 09:25 AM |
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In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is indeed king, eh? |
BlooInBloo |
Mar-19-09 09:31 AM |
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You really are out of touch. |
joeglow3 |
Mar-19-09 09:48 AM |
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(shrug) I happen to think of knowledge as something more than a political tool.... |
BlooInBloo |
Mar-19-09 10:11 AM |
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Then why economics? |
joeglow3 |
Mar-19-09 10:17 AM |
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You're either a purist, or just trolling |
PVnRT |
Mar-19-09 10:18 AM |
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Um, the two positions *reinforce* each other. |
BlooInBloo |
Mar-19-09 10:22 AM |
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Not in our school district -- economics is required for high school graduation |
antigop |
Mar-18-09 11:16 PM |
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i was taught economics in high school , it was a requirement |
JI7 |
Mar-18-09 11:16 PM |
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I took econ in both high school and college |
XemaSab |
Mar-18-09 11:18 PM |
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Unless you are fairly young |
Zodiak |
Mar-19-09 12:08 AM |
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"what is going on now was considered illegal." |
depakid |
Mar-19-09 12:13 AM |
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You have to take higher level course work in |
specialed |
Mar-19-09 06:29 AM |
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i think they need better history classes and critical thinking |
JI7 |
Mar-18-09 11:22 PM |
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my thoughts exactly. it is a shame that there isn't some "thinking" type classes |
PretzelWarrior |
Mar-19-09 06:08 AM |
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"Better history" needs to mean less patriotic indocrtination |
PVnRT |
Mar-19-09 09:28 AM |
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Not just economics is needed |
DJ13 |
Mar-18-09 11:25 PM |
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It's necessary to understand trigonometry if you're going to learn anything more... |
MilesColtrane |
Mar-18-09 11:36 PM |
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Trigonometry is not essential to many aspects of economics |
Hippo_Tron |
Mar-19-09 12:13 AM |
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Um, yes, it is a pre-req for calculus |
niceypoo |
Mar-19-09 09:50 AM |
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It's a pre-requisite only if you want to study calculus itself |
Hippo_Tron |
Mar-19-09 03:52 PM |
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As it should be. In trigonometry, you have to be able to prove your assertions. |
DavidDvorkin |
Mar-18-09 11:36 PM |
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Agreed. Unlike economics, trigonometry has definite answers to problems |
LastLiberal in PalmSprings |
Mar-19-09 12:51 AM |
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One of my favorites. |
DavidDvorkin |
Mar-19-09 11:19 AM |
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Lol |
karynnj |
Mar-19-09 06:13 PM |
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As a math nerd, I gotta say its as it should be. |
napoleon_in_rags |
Mar-18-09 11:48 PM |
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They teach ABC, but not XYZ! |
Hanse |
Mar-19-09 12:37 AM |
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Unfortunately the fool got the headline from the liberal NYTimes |
Uzybone |
Mar-19-09 01:50 AM |
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not necessarily |
dsc |
Mar-19-09 05:24 AM |
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The state of Virginia |
Thothmes |
Mar-19-09 06:00 AM |
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I hated math in high school and probably would not have |
Jennicut |
Mar-19-09 06:48 AM |
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You need stochastic calculus for economics |
Teaser |
Mar-19-09 08:04 AM |
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no you don't. not for basic Econ 201 level work |
PretzelWarrior |
Mar-19-09 08:06 AM |
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"linear algebra" |
Teaser |
Mar-19-09 08:10 AM |
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Understanding the valuations of derivatives |
Lucky Luciano |
Mar-19-09 08:33 AM |
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That's finance, not economics. |
Zynx |
Mar-19-09 08:41 AM |
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a distinction without a difference |
Teaser |
Mar-19-09 09:18 AM |
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Most Economics professors confess they don't know the first thing about finance. |
Zynx |
Mar-19-09 12:33 PM |
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Who here expects the public to understand the formulas behind today's mess |
joeglow3 |
Mar-19-09 04:29 PM |
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Econ was an elective at my high school |
Freddie Stubbs |
Mar-19-09 08:21 AM |
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Won't.happen. The US is fundamentally antiintellectual. It's all about |
PfcHammer |
Mar-19-09 08:27 AM |
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Finally, a K&H thread I can get behind |
BeyondGeography |
Mar-19-09 08:35 AM |
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A lot of basic economics concepts don't require a lot of math to understand. |
Odin2005 |
Mar-19-09 08:35 AM |
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Exactly. Also, you can teach them the basic calculus equations in an afternoon. |
Zynx |
Mar-19-09 08:42 AM |
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Exactly! n/t. |
Odin2005 |
Mar-19-09 08:47 AM |
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ADDENDA TO OP: |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Mar-19-09 09:10 AM |
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A fundamental understanding of the economy would be good |
treestar |
Mar-19-09 09:23 AM |
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Except economics is subjective, after a certain point |
PVnRT |
Mar-19-09 09:23 AM |
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Exactly right. And if I could remember anything from the |
delete_bush |
Mar-19-09 10:56 AM |
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If we teach economics in high school, there'll be a revolution? |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-19-09 10:58 AM |
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I had an economics course in high school |
BootinUp |
Mar-19-09 05:30 PM |
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The state of Indiana required a semester of economics even back in the 1960s! |
karynnj |
Mar-19-09 05:42 PM |
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Trig is more useful. nt |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-19-09 05:47 PM |
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