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14. As it should be. In trigonometry, you have to be able to prove your assertions.
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  -Funny that trigonometry is more widely taught than economics Kurt_and_Hunter  Mar-18-09 10:51 PM   #0 
  - Drudge was Wrong about every thing else - why read him now  FreakinDJ   Mar-18-09 10:54 PM   #1 
  - and more than ethics, When was the last time somebody that wasn't  grantcart   Mar-18-09 10:55 PM   #2 
  - I know I passed trig because it was required, but literally have no memory of it  Kurt_and_Hunter   Mar-18-09 11:02 PM   #3 
  - Is this going to affect us prebendalists???  cliffordu   Mar-18-09 11:55 PM   #16 
  - ok I know I am going to regret this but WTF is a prebendalist?  grantcart   Mar-19-09 12:20 PM   #77 
     - Well.....  cliffordu   Mar-19-09 12:39 PM   #79 
        - OK thats what I thought  grantcart   Mar-19-09 12:50 PM   #80 
           - Wear a funny hat, no sex, speak latin....  cliffordu   Mar-19-09 05:27 PM   #83 
  - Everyone who needs to know how tall a tree is  karynnj   Mar-19-09 05:46 PM   #86 
  - Not only should micro and macro be required- but also basic statistics  depakid   Mar-18-09 11:04 PM   #4 
  - There's no reality to any "study" of either of the 3 without calclus first...  BlooInBloo   Mar-18-09 11:05 PM   #5 
     - Basics can be taught with little more than algebra  depakid   Mar-18-09 11:17 PM   #8 
     - If by "basics", you mean "nothing of any value whatsoever", then yes.  BlooInBloo   Mar-18-09 11:32 PM   #12 
        - Basic concepts have TONS of value  depakid   Mar-19-09 12:09 AM   #18 
        - (facepalm)  BlooInBloo   Mar-19-09 12:13 AM   #22 
           - Oh good grief- you can grasp all sorts of basic principles that help understand the world.  depakid   Mar-19-09 12:23 AM   #24 
           - Sure there is  Hippo_Tron   Mar-19-09 12:25 AM   #25 
           - (shrug) You can say pretty words, and draw pretty pictures all you want...  BlooInBloo   Mar-19-09 12:28 AM   #26 
              - Seems to me that with the emphasis on polling in the states  depakid   Mar-19-09 01:00 AM   #29 
              - You can't, unless you either (a) lie to the, or (b) enjoy getting blank stares...  BlooInBloo   Mar-19-09 01:38 AM   #32 
                 - Not true - you can very easily teach the CONCEPT of sampling  karynnj   Mar-19-09 06:03 PM   #88 
              - I will agree with you to a certain extent  Hippo_Tron   Mar-19-09 01:08 AM   #30 
              - For macro, difference/differential eq is needed. And the notion that calculus is Ph.D. level...  BlooInBloo   Mar-19-09 01:23 AM   #31 
                 - I wasn't saying calculus is a PhD level  Hippo_Tron   Mar-19-09 01:48 AM   #33 
                 - Wow. Do you get out much?  joeglow3   Mar-19-09 07:56 AM   #41 
                 - I agree that HS kids should need to know  Lucky Luciano   Mar-19-09 08:28 AM   #49 
                    - I guess that poster means finance, and not econ....  BlooInBloo   Mar-19-09 09:25 AM   #64 
              - Some math and stats majors have overinflated opinions of their usefulness in social sciences.  Zynx   Mar-19-09 08:48 AM   #58 
                 - (a) I don't know why you think I said you could....  BlooInBloo   Mar-19-09 09:26 AM   #65 
           - You can teach someone what is behind maximization functions without  Zynx   Mar-19-09 08:38 AM   #53 
           - That is the stupidest justification I have ever heard.  BzaDem   Mar-19-09 06:16 PM   #90 
        - That's like saying it's not worth teaching people about gravity  Hippo_Tron   Mar-19-09 12:10 AM   #19 
           - That shallow of a level IS a magical fairy.  BlooInBloo   Mar-19-09 12:14 AM   #23 
              - Jesus, the arrogance is amazing.  joeglow3   Mar-19-09 08:00 AM   #42 
     - that may be. but the essence of opportunity cost, possibilities curve  PretzelWarrior   Mar-19-09 06:05 AM   #37 
     - And what percentage of the population have the wherewithal to do calculus?  AngryAmish   Mar-19-09 08:21 AM   #46 
     - So for any self-respecting person to live should they have to know all the biochemical  Zynx   Mar-19-09 08:40 AM   #54 
     - You don't need calculus to learn the basics of statistics  PVnRT   Mar-19-09 09:25 AM   #63 
        - In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is indeed king, eh?  BlooInBloo   Mar-19-09 09:31 AM   #67 
           - You really are out of touch.  joeglow3   Mar-19-09 09:48 AM   #68 
           - (shrug) I happen to think of knowledge as something more than a political tool....  BlooInBloo   Mar-19-09 10:11 AM   #70 
              - Then why economics?  joeglow3   Mar-19-09 10:17 AM   #71 
           - You're either a purist, or just trolling  PVnRT   Mar-19-09 10:18 AM   #72 
              - Um, the two positions *reinforce* each other.  BlooInBloo   Mar-19-09 10:22 AM   #73 
  - Not in our school district -- economics is required for high school graduation  antigop   Mar-18-09 11:16 PM   #6 
  - i was taught economics in high school , it was a requirement  JI7   Mar-18-09 11:16 PM   #7 
  - I took econ in both high school and college  XemaSab   Mar-18-09 11:18 PM   #9 
  - Unless you are fairly young  Zodiak   Mar-19-09 12:08 AM   #17 
  - "what is going on now was considered illegal."  depakid   Mar-19-09 12:13 AM   #20 
  - You have to take higher level course work in  specialed   Mar-19-09 06:29 AM   #39 
  - i think they need better history classes and critical thinking  JI7   Mar-18-09 11:22 PM   #10 
  - my thoughts exactly. it is a shame that there isn't some "thinking" type classes  PretzelWarrior   Mar-19-09 06:08 AM   #38 
  - "Better history" needs to mean less patriotic indocrtination  PVnRT   Mar-19-09 09:28 AM   #66 
  - Not just economics is needed  DJ13   Mar-18-09 11:25 PM   #11 
  - It's necessary to understand trigonometry if you're going to learn anything more...  MilesColtrane   Mar-18-09 11:36 PM   #13 
  - Trigonometry is not essential to many aspects of economics  Hippo_Tron   Mar-19-09 12:13 AM   #21 
     - Um, yes, it is a pre-req for calculus  niceypoo   Mar-19-09 09:50 AM   #69 
        - It's a pre-requisite only if you want to study calculus itself  Hippo_Tron   Mar-19-09 03:52 PM   #81 
  - As it should be. In trigonometry, you have to be able to prove your assertions.  DavidDvorkin   Mar-18-09 11:36 PM   #14 
  - Agreed. Unlike economics, trigonometry has definite answers to problems  LastLiberal in PalmSprings   Mar-19-09 12:51 AM   #28 
     - One of my favorites.  DavidDvorkin   Mar-19-09 11:19 AM   #76 
     - Lol  karynnj   Mar-19-09 06:13 PM   #89 
  - As a math nerd, I gotta say its as it should be.  napoleon_in_rags   Mar-18-09 11:48 PM   #15 
  - They teach ABC, but not XYZ!  Hanse   Mar-19-09 12:37 AM   #27 
  - Unfortunately the fool got the headline from the liberal NYTimes  Uzybone   Mar-19-09 01:50 AM   #34 
  - not necessarily  dsc   Mar-19-09 05:24 AM   #35 
  - The state of Virginia  Thothmes   Mar-19-09 06:00 AM   #36 
  - I hated math in high school and probably would not have  Jennicut   Mar-19-09 06:48 AM   #40 
  - You need stochastic calculus for economics  Teaser   Mar-19-09 08:04 AM   #43 
  - no you don't. not for basic Econ 201 level work  PretzelWarrior   Mar-19-09 08:06 AM   #44 
     - "linear algebra"  Teaser   Mar-19-09 08:10 AM   #45 
        - Understanding the valuations of derivatives  Lucky Luciano   Mar-19-09 08:33 AM   #50 
        - That's finance, not economics.  Zynx   Mar-19-09 08:41 AM   #55 
           - a distinction without a difference  Teaser   Mar-19-09 09:18 AM   #60 
              - Most Economics professors confess they don't know the first thing about finance.  Zynx   Mar-19-09 12:33 PM   #78 
              - Who here expects the public to understand the formulas behind today's mess  joeglow3   Mar-19-09 04:29 PM   #82 
  - Econ was an elective at my high school  Freddie Stubbs   Mar-19-09 08:21 AM   #47 
  - Won't.happen. The US is fundamentally antiintellectual. It's all about  PfcHammer   Mar-19-09 08:27 AM   #48 
  - Finally, a K&H thread I can get behind  BeyondGeography   Mar-19-09 08:35 AM   #51 
  - A lot of basic economics concepts don't require a lot of math to understand.  Odin2005   Mar-19-09 08:35 AM   #52 
  - Exactly. Also, you can teach them the basic calculus equations in an afternoon.  Zynx   Mar-19-09 08:42 AM   #56 
     - Exactly! n/t.  Odin2005   Mar-19-09 08:47 AM   #57 
  - ADDENDA TO OP:  Kurt_and_Hunter   Mar-19-09 09:10 AM   #59 
  - A fundamental understanding of the economy would be good  treestar   Mar-19-09 09:23 AM   #61 
  - Except economics is subjective, after a certain point  PVnRT   Mar-19-09 09:23 AM   #62 
  - Exactly right. And if I could remember anything from the  delete_bush   Mar-19-09 10:56 AM   #74 
  - If we teach economics in high school, there'll be a revolution?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-19-09 10:58 AM   #75 
  - I had an economics course in high school  BootinUp   Mar-19-09 05:30 PM   #84 
  - The state of Indiana required a semester of economics even back in the 1960s!  karynnj   Mar-19-09 05:42 PM   #85 
  - Trig is more useful. nt  Occam Bandage   Mar-19-09 05:47 PM   #87 

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