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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 12:17 PM
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97. Yes it is. And from what Babylonsister posted above, it's his usual bullshit.
Edited on Wed Mar-11-09 12:18 PM by DevonRex
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  -Obama is veering closer to Ronald Reagan than to FDR brentspeak  Mar-10-09 07:29 PM   #0 
  - No. Merit pay for teachers is the same thing private sector employees face  David Dunham   Mar-10-09 07:32 PM   #1 
  - And...?  brentspeak   Mar-10-09 07:34 PM   #2 
  - There has to be a way to get rid of bad teachers. ...n/t  Just-plain-Kathy   Mar-10-09 09:08 PM   #30 
  - There are plenty of ways of getting rid of a teacher  MadHound   Mar-10-09 09:44 PM   #38 
  - Actually, i woudl disagree  mkultra   Mar-11-09 10:30 AM   #90 
  - Getting rid of a bad teacher is nearly impossible. It takes a ........  Exilednight   Mar-15-09 11:52 AM   #155 
  - There are plenty of procedures. But also plenty of lazy administrators.  WinkyDink   Mar-11-09 10:27 AM   #89 
  - That sounds like a bit of an exaggeration.  EmilyAnne   Mar-10-09 09:31 PM   #35 
     - Tell you what, I'm willing to consider merit pay  MadHound   Mar-10-09 09:54 PM   #46 
     - Don't forget support at home for the teacher's efforts in the classroom.  amandabeech   Mar-10-09 10:01 PM   #48 
     - Incentive/merit pay is nothing more than "fear" pay  brentspeak   Mar-10-09 09:55 PM   #47 
     - That that CAN be the result does not mean that it WILL be the result.  NYC_SKP   Mar-10-09 11:21 PM   #53 
     - So you think one should keep ther job just because they have it?  alwysdrunk   Mar-11-09 08:29 AM   #77 
        - Thanks for admitting that "merit" pay is really about breaking the teacher unions  brentspeak   Mar-11-09 12:17 PM   # 
           - Where did he mention busting union? nt  joeglow3   Mar-11-09 03:49 PM   #134 
              - answer: he didn't, and brent knows it..  dionysus   Mar-11-09 04:07 PM   #141 
     - No. It isn't.  Stellabella   Mar-10-09 11:33 PM   #54 
  - PRIVATE sector!!!  polmaven   Mar-11-09 07:00 AM   #64 
  - You've got a Hillary avatar  brentspeak   Mar-11-09 12:13 PM   #95 
     - I am SOOOOO  polmaven   Mar-11-09 12:30 PM   #102 
     - So what? Leave her alone.  DevonRex   Mar-11-09 12:36 PM   #108 
  - And that would be how? Please. I'd like to know how students are the equivalent of whatever the  WinkyDink   Mar-11-09 10:27 AM   #88 
  - Except that you can't accurately judge teacher merit by grades or test scores alone  Political Heretic   Mar-11-09 03:40 PM   #133 
  - No. Schools Aren't Businesses, David.  tonysam   Mar-15-09 10:21 AM   #154 
  - How did Steve Jobs convince the President that teacher unions are the cause of students' ills?  Deja Q   Mar-10-09 07:34 PM   #3 
  - I think you need to wait for specifics on the merit pay And  Thrill   Mar-10-09 07:34 PM   #4 
  - Absurd and ignorant.  cali   Mar-10-09 07:34 PM   #5 
  - And media spin too, I think you're right...  Deja Q   Mar-10-09 07:34 PM   #6 
  - Third possibility:  brentspeak   Mar-10-09 07:35 PM   #8 
  - not possible in your case. you've displayed your malice and ignorance  cali   Mar-10-09 07:37 PM   #9 
  - Ha! So says the Queen Mother of Flamebaiting Loudmouths  brentspeak   Mar-10-09 07:41 PM   #10 
  - really? I challenge you to find a flamebait thread  cali   Mar-11-09 06:33 AM   #62 
  - you fail to see the difference;  dionysus   Mar-11-09 08:25 AM   #76 
  - ding ding ding  dionysus   Mar-11-09 07:55 AM   #67 
  - Hyopthetical possibility: Yes.  gcomeau   Mar-10-09 07:45 PM   #13 
  - I like that he's closing Gitmo, and that he's moving to revamp the FDA  brentspeak   Mar-10-09 07:49 PM   #16 
  - Still bitter about Hillary, huh?  Chulanowa   Mar-11-09 02:40 AM   #61 
  - Er, I supported Edwards  brentspeak   Mar-11-09 12:14 PM   #96 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-11-09 12:52 PM   #113 
  - Fuck off with the "worship politicians" bullshit.  DevonRex   Mar-11-09 12:12 PM   #94 
  - what she said  dionysus   Mar-11-09 12:49 PM   #111 
  - you aren't informed or else you would realize that Obama is undoing most of what Reagan stood for  CreekDog   Mar-11-09 03:57 PM   #136 
  - Hahaha!  Danger Mouse   Mar-11-09 04:09 PM   #142 
  - Beyond ignorant and purely inflammatory  alwysdrunk   Mar-10-09 08:07 PM   #20 
  - Too true. Obama is further away from Reagan than Clinton was, for sure.  Honeycombe8   Mar-10-09 10:23 PM   #51 
  - Not to mention intentionally insulting and disrupting.  DevonRex   Mar-11-09 12:21 PM   #100 
  - I don't care for merit pay because I don't think the playing field  firedupdem   Mar-10-09 07:35 PM   #7 
  - Giving trillions not ideological choice, as would be Reagan  MarjorieG   Mar-10-09 07:42 PM   #11 
  - Oh please.  jefferson_dem   Mar-10-09 07:45 PM   #12 
  - How do you determine who's who?  Smarmie Doofus   Mar-10-09 07:53 PM   #17 
     - How do we make merit-based judgments in any professional endeavor?  jefferson_dem   Mar-10-09 08:00 PM   #18 
        - IF " more specifics are rolled out".  Smarmie Doofus   Mar-10-09 08:46 PM   #25 
        - The difference, to me, is that teachers are being judged on the  last_texas_dem   Mar-10-09 08:49 PM   #26 
  - Does Sidwell Friends have "merit pay"?  Smarmie Doofus   Mar-10-09 07:45 PM   #14 
  - I have to say...  CBR   Mar-11-09 08:20 AM   #74 
     - How exactly do we know that "the system is not working."?  Smarmie Doofus   Mar-11-09 03:32 PM   #129 
  - LOL!  Political Tiger   Mar-10-09 07:49 PM   #15 
  - Private sector employees do not have tenure. Teachers should get flexible (merit) pay too  David Dunham   Mar-10-09 08:02 PM   #19 
     - Evaluated *how*? nt  Smarmie Doofus   Mar-10-09 08:39 PM   #24 
        - Evulauated *somehow*  alwysdrunk   Mar-11-09 08:15 AM   #73 
        - Yes, I agree.  Smarmie Doofus   Mar-11-09 06:37 PM   #145 
        - You don't think teachers aren't already evaluated?  izzybeans   Mar-11-09 03:05 PM   #126 
  - "You're confusing me with someone else" Right.  babylonsister   Mar-10-09 08:14 PM   #21 
  - aw snap.  firedupdem   Mar-10-09 08:18 PM   #22 
  - Thanks.  jefferson_dem   Mar-10-09 08:20 PM   #23 
  - You're still confusing me with someone else  brentspeak   Mar-10-09 09:17 PM   #31 
  - Those were your words. Oh! And here's another:  babylonsister   Mar-10-09 09:37 PM   #37 
  - LOL and....  Spazito   Mar-11-09 10:20 AM   #86 
  - That comparison is just plain ridiculous.  Danger Mouse   Mar-10-09 08:52 PM   #27 
  - Yes it is. And from what Babylonsister posted above, it's his usual bullshit.  DevonRex   Mar-11-09 12:17 PM   #97 
  - Flamebait  Cali_Democrat   Mar-10-09 08:55 PM   #28 
  - Obviously.  Jennicut   Mar-10-09 09:30 PM   #34 
  - Obama >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FDR  ZombieHorde   Mar-10-09 09:03 PM   #29 
  - One aspect of FDR that tends to be suger-coated on DU.  Danger Mouse   Mar-10-09 09:49 PM   #41 
  - I don't know how you could sugar coat that. You can't run from apologists. They're everyhwere. n/t  vaberella   Mar-11-09 01:36 AM   #60 
     - Interesting that we now have anti-FDRers here on DU  brentspeak   Mar-11-09 12:19 PM   #99 
        - I never claimed to be anti-FDR.  vaberella   Mar-11-09 12:32 PM   #104 
           - Then I was barking up the wrong tree, then. Apologies.  brentspeak   Mar-11-09 12:35 PM   #106 
              - De nada. n/t  vaberella   Mar-11-09 12:38 PM   #109 
  - A good point...  damonm   Mar-11-09 12:19 PM   #98 
  - Yawn....Ho hum.......  cliffordu   Mar-10-09 09:26 PM   #32 
  - Reagan wanted limited to no government in our lives. Is that Obama?  Jennicut   Mar-10-09 09:29 PM   #33 
  - lol.  Occam Bandage   Mar-10-09 09:33 PM   #36 
  - Number 2 is news?  LittleClarkie   Mar-10-09 09:47 PM   #39 
  - Milton Friedman would have hated these economic policies with a passion.  Zynx   Mar-10-09 09:49 PM   #40 
  - ROFL! Obama As Ronald Reagan? Pass Me What You Are Smoking!  Median Democrat   Mar-10-09 09:49 PM   #42 
  - i don't think you want to huff glue with the OP...  dionysus   Mar-11-09 08:00 AM   #70 
  - I'm going to refer you to this post  GoneOffShore   Mar-10-09 09:51 PM   #43 
  - I don't like this thread  PBS Poll-435   Mar-10-09 09:51 PM   #44 
  - Epic fail  GoneOffShore   Mar-10-09 09:53 PM   #45 
  - Bullshit  donheld   Mar-10-09 10:12 PM   #49 
  - Obama hasn't "given" Wall St. crooks anything. The TARP did that.  Honeycombe8   Mar-10-09 10:21 PM   #50 
  - Bad way to deal with education issues  Bluenorthwest   Mar-11-09 07:58 AM   #68 
  - this post, in handy jpeg form....  Teaser   Mar-10-09 11:00 PM   #52 
  - If you define the world using your pencil point world view  HughMoran   Mar-10-09 11:37 PM   #55 
  - The last thing Milton Friedman would have done is help rescue banks...  zulchzulu   Mar-10-09 11:37 PM   #56 
  - No, I just didn't write my OP clearly enough  brentspeak   Mar-11-09 12:04 AM   #57 
     - I doubt Milton Friedman would even want to get near "merit pay" either  zulchzulu   Mar-11-09 12:30 PM   #103 
        - Quite right. The whole OP made me  DevonRex   Mar-11-09 05:47 PM   #144 
  - Whoa!  FrenchieCat   Mar-11-09 12:32 AM   #58 
  - Milton Friedman would favor letting the banks fail  Hippo_Tron   Mar-11-09 01:07 AM   #59 
  - Bullshit. EOM  FSogol   Mar-11-09 06:36 AM   #63 
  - Somewhere in hell, Milton Freidman is cackling at you  BeyondGeography   Mar-11-09 07:12 AM   #65 
  - cough *bullshit* cough  dionysus   Mar-11-09 07:51 AM   #66 
  - Hard To Argue With That (nt)  Dinger   Mar-11-09 07:58 AM   #69 
  - "You are fucking up. Yes, fucking the fuck up"  berni_mccoy   Mar-11-09 08:02 AM   #71 
  - Damn, I was gonna post that link but you beat me to it....  Spazito   Mar-11-09 10:23 AM   #87 
     - :-D  berni_mccoy   Mar-11-09 12:50 PM   #112 
  - Another week, another delusional anti-Obama attack OP by you. What else is new?  ClarkUSA   Mar-11-09 08:09 AM   #72 
  - i think he tossed back a few too many of these before posting;  dionysus   Mar-11-09 08:20 AM   #75 
     - rofl! Yup, that's his favorite brew alright.  ClarkUSA   Mar-11-09 08:32 AM   #78 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-11-09 09:13 AM   #79 
  - FDR would have totally let the banks and the financial institutions fail.  anonymous171   Mar-11-09 09:30 AM   #80 
  - DUPE  anonymous171   Mar-11-09 09:30 AM   #81 
  - Not well written  kenfrequed   Mar-11-09 10:00 AM   #82 
  - Obama does not support oppression of the Middle Class, Reagan did.  harun   Mar-11-09 10:02 AM   #83 
  - Typical far left hogwash. Obama is nothing like Reagan and much like FDR who had zealots on the far  WI_DEM   Mar-11-09 10:06 AM   #84 
  - That presumes the OP is far left.  ProSense   Mar-11-09 10:07 AM   #85 
  - K&R  blindpig   Mar-11-09 11:46 AM   #91 
  - "herd of True Believers"? Because people think comparing Obama to Reagan is moronic? Maybe  ProSense   Mar-11-09 12:01 PM   #92 
  - You go right ahead and savor the crumbs...  blindpig   Mar-11-09 12:25 PM   #101 
     - "while the ruling class gets all of the red meat"?  ProSense   Mar-11-09 12:33 PM   #105 
        - Who is that person you're talking to?  DevonRex   Mar-11-09 12:35 PM   #107 
        - dude, you're talking to some who named their DU user a swine that can't see. think about it...  dionysus   Mar-11-09 12:53 PM   #114 
        - Ahh. We have a visitor.  DevonRex   Mar-11-09 01:01 PM   #117 
        - Here's some nonsense:  blindpig   Mar-11-09 01:12 PM   #119 
           - You're right  ProSense   Mar-11-09 01:13 PM   #120 
              - .  blindpig   Mar-11-09 03:11 PM   #127 
  - How dare we object to the OP comparing a person many of us deeply respect to Reagan who is only...  Danger Mouse   Mar-11-09 04:14 PM   #143 
     - "How dare I?"  blindpig   Mar-11-09 08:58 PM   #147 
        - Sorry, looks like my sarcasm wasn't clear.  Danger Mouse   Mar-11-09 09:09 PM   #149 
  - Total BULLSHIT flamebait. As usual, just more stupid. Toddler.  DevonRex   Mar-11-09 12:05 PM   #93 
  - oh no, you've got it all wrong!!!!11!!! if we had elected smoove "slow hand" johnny E,  dionysus   Mar-11-09 12:56 PM   #116 
     - Heh. Guess that $400 haircut doesn't put him in the "ruling class"  DevonRex   Mar-11-09 01:04 PM   #118 
     - i think you need your own hedge fund to make it official...  dionysus   Mar-11-09 01:59 PM   #122 
        - Oh. Well then. Guess I'm safe.  DevonRex   Mar-11-09 02:23 PM   #123 
     - For some reason, the RFK avatar doesn't go well with you  brentspeak   Mar-11-09 02:34 PM   #125 
        - if you had couched your argument from a DK perspective, at least you *could* be seen as sincere,  dionysus   Mar-11-09 03:17 PM   #128 
           - You were saying something about "hypocrit"?  brentspeak   Mar-11-09 03:33 PM   #131 
              - so i made a snarky comment about the Kooch. At least he is sincere, unlike the sleazy phoney  dionysus   Mar-11-09 04:02 PM   #139 
  - my guess is you were not around for Reagan, and if you were, you remember it differently  Hamlette   Mar-11-09 12:48 PM   #110 
  - This is nothing more than a bullshit post aimed at saying we were all duped  DevonRex   Mar-11-09 12:56 PM   #115 
  - he is veering more towards Obama. Lets stop comparing apples to shmapples  dave29   Mar-11-09 01:23 PM   #121 
  - Thank You....this president is in a class all to himself.  firedupdem   Mar-11-09 02:33 PM   #124 
  - You hate Obama. WE GET IT.  TheWraith   Mar-11-09 03:33 PM   #130 
  - No, you didn't get it  brentspeak   Mar-11-09 03:34 PM   #132 
     - no, he nailed it pretty good. here, this will make you feel better;  dionysus   Mar-11-09 04:07 PM   #140 
  - For such a bold statement, that's all you've got???  CreekDog   Mar-11-09 03:53 PM   #135 
  - You will get excellent teachers when you are willing to pay them the salary they deserve.  olegramps   Mar-11-09 03:57 PM   #137 
  - He campaigned on both.  Nicholas D Wolfwood   Mar-11-09 03:57 PM   #138 
  - "Well, there you go again."  ncteechur   Mar-11-09 08:43 PM   #146 
  - no he is really not. nt  La Lioness Priyanka   Mar-11-09 09:01 PM   #148 
  - -letting tax rates on top 5%  CTLawGuy   Mar-11-09 09:38 PM   #150 
  - *WHAM*WHAM*WHAM*WHAM*WHAM*  Arkana   Mar-15-09 09:45 AM   #151 
  - POLAR OPPOSITES....President Obama has a Brain...  opihimoimoi   Mar-15-09 09:47 AM   #152 
  - Yes, He Is.  tonysam   Mar-15-09 10:19 AM   #153 
 

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