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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:50 AM
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17. That isn't Reid's doing. That's the Republicans' doing.
I'm not sure how you can blame Reid for the fact that the Republicans have abused the filibuster to an unprecedented extent. In the last Congress, the Republicans set an all-time record for number of filibusters in a Congress before they were nine months into the two-year term.
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  -Why the heck does the MSM continue to say that we need 60 votes to get something passed TeamJordan23  Feb-06-09 10:10 AM   #0 
  - Because they know how spineless Harry Reid is.  blueclown   Feb-06-09 10:18 AM   #1 
  - It's always been 60 for contentious legislation in the senate.  AlinPA   Feb-06-09 10:20 AM   #3 
     - No it hasn't.  blueclown   Feb-06-09 10:23 AM   #5 
     - Dems were ridiculously ineffective in the minority. Republicans  Occam Bandage   Feb-06-09 10:25 AM   #8 
        - I don't think that takes away from my main point that the other poster disagreed on.  blueclown   Feb-06-09 10:36 AM   #12 
        - That isn't Reid's doing. That's the Republicans' doing.  Occam Bandage   Feb-06-09 10:50 AM   #17 
           - And just to reiterate how ineffectual the Dems have been...  ljm2002   Feb-06-09 06:24 PM   #27 
        - Or maybe Democrats believe in government and Republicans don't  karynnj   Feb-06-09 01:04 PM   #24 
     - No, it hasn't (nt)  sampsonblk   Feb-06-09 10:45 AM   #15 
     - I need to word this in a different way: in order stop debate on contentious  AlinPA   Feb-06-09 10:50 AM   #18 
  - I agree we will need 60 on this bill. If the vote for cloture fails, the bill is stopped.  AlinPA   Feb-06-09 10:19 AM   #2 
  - MSM is in another world with all the propaganda.  Life Long Dem   Feb-06-09 10:22 AM   #4 
  - New Yorkers need to protest CNBC/ABC  Why Syzygy   Feb-06-09 10:24 AM   #7 
  - Because we do. nt  Occam Bandage   Feb-06-09 10:23 AM   #6 
  - The Republicans would win if there was an actual filibuster  Hippo_Tron   Feb-06-09 10:25 AM   #9 
  - BS! I say Reid should say "OK, you want a fillabuster, go for it!"  napi21   Feb-06-09 10:36 AM   #11 
  - Lots of us were calling Reid to tell him that yesterday  wryter2000   Feb-06-09 10:43 AM   #14 
  - that kind of fiilbuster almost always succeeds, y'know  onenote   Feb-06-09 11:11 AM   #19 
  - I don't think you realize for how long 41 people can hold the senate floor if they want to  Hippo_Tron   Feb-06-09 12:46 PM   #20 
  - Why would Obama look weak?  treestar   Feb-06-09 10:41 AM   #13 
     - I don't think you get the ramifications of a filibuster  Hippo_Tron   Feb-06-09 12:58 PM   #21 
        - I understand they COULD...but if Reid demanded a REAL fillabuster,  napi21   Feb-06-09 01:08 PM   #25 
        - They can basically do it in 2 or 3 hour shifts  Hippo_Tron   Feb-06-09 05:08 PM   #26 
        - OK  treestar   Feb-06-09 07:10 PM   #29 
  - I was thinking the same thing this morning.  Phx_Dem   Feb-06-09 10:29 AM   #10 
  - Because Reid has done NOTHING to dispel this idea.  Mayberry Machiavelli   Feb-06-09 10:46 AM   #16 
  - Because to GET to that vote, you need to get a cloture vote that takes 60 unless  karynnj   Feb-06-09 01:02 PM   #22 
  - If were talking about a group of individuals who made up a loyal opposition, you'd be correct.  baldguy   Feb-06-09 01:04 PM   #23 
  - Denial of facts in place will not make the need for 60 votes go away. n/t  CK_John   Feb-06-09 06:29 PM   #28 

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