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Tue Feb-03-09 09:32 PM
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| 90. I just think he's always been a phony with his finger stuck in the air to see which way the wind is |
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blowing. Has nothing to do with sex.
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| -What if John Edwards "scandal" were that he was gay instead of being an adulterer? |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 08:38 PM |
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Being gay isn't a scandal. |
Starry Messenger |
Feb-03-09 08:39 PM |
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I don't see EITHER of them as a scandal - neither is the public's business. |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 08:42 PM |
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Is someone seeking to legally invalidate their marriage? |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Feb-03-09 08:46 PM |
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Not what I was thinking about... Try Gov. Greevey instead.. |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 08:49 PM |
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I felt bad for Greevey's wife. |
Starry Messenger |
Feb-03-09 08:50 PM |
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NOR did I feel that it was either... |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 08:52 PM |
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The issue with deceiving his wife might be if he were seeking |
Starry Messenger |
Feb-03-09 08:58 PM |
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Same argument that was used against closeted gays getting gov't jobs |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:00 PM |
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Same argument that was used against closeted gays getting gov't jobs |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:00 PM |
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No, you cited GLBTs' views on privacy. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Feb-03-09 08:51 PM |
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Um clearly you have a very narrow viewpoint on the GLBT community... |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 08:53 PM |
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What the hell are you talking about? |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Feb-03-09 09:00 PM |
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OMG you have got to be kidding. |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:07 PM |
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Are you drunk, high or just stupid? |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Feb-03-09 09:18 PM |
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Again I never said being gay harms ANYONE. |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:21 PM |
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You asked what if his scandal was being gay instead of cheating on his wife. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Feb-03-09 09:26 PM |
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Um NO did you not see the quotation marks around "scandal" in the OP. |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:28 PM |
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But you're referring to the actual scandal the affair caused. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Feb-03-09 09:35 PM |
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And how do you know that a straight guy's cheating is not a genetic behavior too? |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:39 PM |
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"I NO don't think"? What? |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Feb-03-09 09:42 PM |
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Yes I DID say that but it doesn't mean I can't believe it is true that being gay is not a choice. |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:46 PM |
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His marriage isn't. His integrity is. |
Starry Messenger |
Feb-03-09 08:49 PM |
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Again the right wingers would use this argument against an outed homosexual |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 08:50 PM |
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Right wingers are scum. |
Starry Messenger |
Feb-03-09 08:51 PM |
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Unfortunately sometimes you do have to care.... |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 08:56 PM |
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Your question addressed the stance of Du-ers. |
Starry Messenger |
Feb-03-09 08:59 PM |
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Uh, RU Gay? |
JeffreyWilliamson |
Feb-03-09 08:51 PM |
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No not gay... |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 08:55 PM |
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My point is this... |
JeffreyWilliamson |
Feb-03-09 09:04 PM |
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I disagree: |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:11 PM |
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I'm not imagining an injury to myself at all... |
JeffreyWilliamson |
Feb-03-09 09:16 PM |
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Of course you are imagining an injury or you wouldn't mention "dying wife" |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:23 PM |
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Once again... |
JeffreyWilliamson |
Feb-03-09 09:37 PM |
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Again you are assuming that some people might not be more genetically predisposed to cheating than |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:44 PM |
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It's not about holding a grudge |
skepticscott |
Feb-03-09 09:18 PM |
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JRE wasnt running for Pope...so NO I'm not going to hold someone to a higher "moral" standard in his |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:26 PM |
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If part of someone's public image is that they are a good moral man, this matters. |
Zynx |
Feb-03-09 09:11 PM |
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It is the publics business in some ways |
Juche |
Feb-03-09 09:44 PM |
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One of those two is not the same..... |
FrenchieCat |
Feb-03-09 08:40 PM |
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HOW is someone else's marriage any of your business? |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 08:43 PM |
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Adultery of necessity includes doing injury to at least one other person; |
elleng |
Feb-03-09 08:43 PM |
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Again you don't really know that to be true... |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 08:44 PM |
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There are plenty of instances of chronically ill people letting their partners take lovers. |
Runcible Spoon |
Feb-03-09 08:50 PM |
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Yes, its a general statement that adultery involves injury to another |
elleng |
Feb-03-09 09:14 PM |
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Again morally judgemental about something that's really not your business. |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:16 PM |
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Moral uprightness of public 'servant' IS my business. |
elleng |
Feb-03-09 09:18 PM |
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Private "morality" is really none of your business |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:29 PM |
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Oh cut the crap already. Edwards is joke and that is HIS fault, not ours. |
Inspired |
Feb-03-09 08:43 PM |
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Thanks for NOT having anything meaningful to say...nt |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 08:51 PM |
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Right back at 'ya...nt |
Inspired |
Feb-03-09 08:54 PM |
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Being gay isn't a choice but being a cheater is. No comparison. n/t |
sandyj999 |
Feb-03-09 08:43 PM |
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And how do you know that either of those assertions are either true or false? |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 08:58 PM |
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This is homophobia at its finest. |
cboy4 |
Feb-03-09 09:11 PM |
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Care to prove me wrong? |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:13 PM |
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I told you you wouldn't get it. |
cboy4 |
Feb-03-09 09:31 PM |
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Ummm NO - I was referring to the cheating straight guy with the use of the word promiscuous.. |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:34 PM |
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Oh my word, I cannot believe I am reading this. |
Bluebear |
Feb-03-09 09:36 PM |
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So you think that homosexuality is a choice? |
Occam Bandage |
Feb-03-09 09:50 PM |
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You're leaving out details that would be important... |
JeffreyWilliamson |
Feb-03-09 08:44 PM |
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Um wrongg... |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:03 PM |
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Wrong on a very, VERY basic level... |
JeffreyWilliamson |
Feb-03-09 09:09 PM |
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And it really isn't any body's business what anyone does in their private life |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:15 PM |
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Okay, one more time... |
JeffreyWilliamson |
Feb-03-09 09:21 PM |
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OK but why are cops staking out bathrooms? |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:30 PM |
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Do you understand the difference between public and private property? |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Feb-03-09 09:36 PM |
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Um yeah... and should the government be able to therefore |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:47 PM |
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No, it's not... |
JeffreyWilliamson |
Feb-03-09 09:44 PM |
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If it was in public view I would say there was no expectation of privacy. |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:50 PM |
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What if his scandal was that he was a cannibal? |
Uzybone |
Feb-03-09 08:44 PM |
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Well THAT would be a CRIME and not an apples to apples comparison |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 08:48 PM |
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What if Julius Ceasar had a Piper Cub? |
AngryAmish |
Feb-03-09 08:44 PM |
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Then he'd also need to have a time machine |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:17 PM |
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Being gay is hardly just about one's sexual life. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Feb-03-09 08:45 PM |
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And how can you prove EITHER assertion? |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:19 PM |
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Holy shit, you're a moron. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Feb-03-09 09:38 PM |
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Thanks for not answering the point... |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:50 PM |
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I'm too tired to take this full-on but... |
Runcible Spoon |
Feb-03-09 08:45 PM |
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Being gay isn't a scandal. What if he DIDN'T cheat on his wife and probably have a child with |
jenmito |
Feb-03-09 08:46 PM |
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NEITHER is a scandal - did you just miss the quotation marks around the word "scandal" in the OP? |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:31 PM |
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Having an affair and a love child IS a scandal. You think that should be in the same category as |
jenmito |
Feb-03-09 09:37 PM |
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Apples and Oranges - and never the twain shall meet in my opinion N/T |
Mira |
Feb-03-09 08:48 PM |
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What if flying monkeys came out his butt |
LittleClarkie |
Feb-03-09 08:48 PM |
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What if he instead .... |
Trajan |
Feb-03-09 08:49 PM |
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What if frogs had wings? |
Jamastiene |
Feb-03-09 09:44 PM |
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I doubt that your many threads about Edwards will convince anyone he should be the one |
jenmito |
Feb-03-09 08:50 PM |
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YOUR JUST A HATER!!!!! EDWARDS IS TEH AWESOME!1!!!!!!! |
Alexander |
Feb-03-09 09:13 PM |
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Your rite!!!11!! |
jenmito |
Feb-03-09 09:24 PM |
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Apparently till you get tired of making juvenile responses... |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:35 PM |
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Stick to the OP and convince me that I'm wrong... |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:18 PM |
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I DID-see post #14. Duh-and being gay isn't a choice. Cheating on your wife and having a child is. |
jenmito |
Feb-03-09 09:22 PM |
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What if... |
Fabio |
Feb-03-09 08:50 PM |
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I hate it when I see people try to portray him as a victim of our intolerance. |
Inspired |
Feb-03-09 08:56 PM |
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Here we go again .. comparing gay to bad. |
cboy4 |
Feb-03-09 08:55 PM |
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!!!! This thread should be disappeared n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Feb-03-09 09:08 PM |
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Ummm NO not at all... Did you miss the quotes around the word "scandal" |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:36 PM |
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As long as he wasn't cheating with a guy or gal -otherwise its still an extramarital affair |
stray cat |
Feb-03-09 09:01 PM |
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"Why should EITHER be any of our business?" |
ZombieHorde |
Feb-03-09 09:02 PM |
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I don't recall John preaching for monogamy or vowing to punish marital cheaters |
ddeclue |
Feb-03-09 09:37 PM |
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It says a lot about a person's judgment that he thinks it's OK to have an affair as he's making a |
ogneopasno |
Feb-03-09 09:07 PM |
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Apples and oranges. |
Demobrat |
Feb-03-09 09:09 PM |
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Reality: A candidate has the obligation to reveal things that would bring them down. |
NYC_SKP |
Feb-03-09 09:10 PM |
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what if Edwards' scandal was that he is a two-faced |
GreenArrow |
Feb-03-09 09:11 PM |
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Bingo. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-03-09 09:27 PM |
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Your first thread on this failed so badly that you started a second one? |
Alexander |
Feb-03-09 09:12 PM |
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I don't think the relation you are making between homosexuality and adultery is very flawed. |
Colobo |
Feb-03-09 09:13 PM |
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Yes because both are so similar. |
cboy4 |
Feb-03-09 09:32 PM |
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Oh, is this another "cultural" thing we won't understand, like cockfighting? |
Bluebear |
Feb-03-09 09:50 PM |
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I still want my money back n/t |
mth44sc |
Feb-03-09 09:16 PM |
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Interesting that you picked that. McGreevey also gave his lover a job. That's |
NYCGirl |
Feb-03-09 09:24 PM |
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among other things Edwards was clear that gays like me were too immoral to marry |
dsc |
Feb-03-09 09:26 PM |
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I am sorry, I do not see being gay as a moral failure |
KitchenWitch |
Feb-03-09 09:27 PM |
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ARE YOU ARGUING THAT GAY IS """GENETIC""""????1 |
Bluebear |
Feb-03-09 09:37 PM |
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Being gay isn't the equivalent of betraying someone's trust |
Time for change |
Feb-03-09 09:32 PM |
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I just think he's always been a phony with his finger stuck in the air to see which way the wind is |
book_worm |
Feb-03-09 09:32 PM |
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Being gay is not "sexual life". |
Bluebear |
Feb-03-09 09:35 PM |
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By position John and Elizabeth would have been but are not now |
saltpoint |
Feb-03-09 09:38 PM |
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I must have missed the "homosexuality is a moral failure" memo. nt |
Occam Bandage |
Feb-03-09 09:48 PM |
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He's out fucking around while his wife is sick, but he wants Americans |
Ilsa |
Feb-03-09 09:49 PM |
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Locking. |
wakemeupwhenitsover |
Feb-03-09 09:50 PM |
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