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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 08:58 PM
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38. And how do you know that either of those assertions are either true or false?
Are you arguing that being gay is "genetic"?

How do you not know that being promiscuous is not ALSO genetic? Indeed it would seem that being promiscuous would tend to promote the survival of your own genes would it not?

As far as I know there is no conclusive final proof on EITHER of your assertions.

Doug D.
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  -What if John Edwards "scandal" were that he was gay instead of being an adulterer? ddeclue  Feb-03-09 08:38 PM   #0 
  - Being gay isn't a scandal.  Starry Messenger   Feb-03-09 08:39 PM   #1 
  - I don't see EITHER of them as a scandal - neither is the public's business.  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 08:42 PM   #3 
     - Is someone seeking to legally invalidate their marriage?  Starbucks Anarchist   Feb-03-09 08:46 PM   #15 
     - Not what I was thinking about... Try Gov. Greevey instead..  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 08:49 PM   #20 
        - I felt bad for Greevey's wife.  Starry Messenger   Feb-03-09 08:50 PM   #26 
        - NOR did I feel that it was either...  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 08:52 PM   #30 
           - The issue with deceiving his wife might be if he were seeking  Starry Messenger   Feb-03-09 08:58 PM   #37 
              - Same argument that was used against closeted gays getting gov't jobs  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:00 PM   #40 
              - Same argument that was used against closeted gays getting gov't jobs  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:00 PM   #41 
        - No, you cited GLBTs' views on privacy.  Starbucks Anarchist   Feb-03-09 08:51 PM   # 
           - Um clearly you have a very narrow viewpoint on the GLBT community...  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 08:53 PM   #31 
              - What the hell are you talking about?  Starbucks Anarchist   Feb-03-09 09:00 PM   #42 
                 - OMG you have got to be kidding.  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:07 PM   #47 
                    - Are you drunk, high or just stupid?  Starbucks Anarchist   Feb-03-09 09:18 PM   #68 
                       - Again I never said being gay harms ANYONE.  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:21 PM   #73 
                          - You asked what if his scandal was being gay instead of cheating on his wife.  Starbucks Anarchist   Feb-03-09 09:26 PM   #79 
                             - Um NO did you not see the quotation marks around "scandal" in the OP.  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:28 PM   #83 
                                - But you're referring to the actual scandal the affair caused.  Starbucks Anarchist   Feb-03-09 09:35 PM   #93 
                                   - And how do you know that a straight guy's cheating is not a genetic behavior too?  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:39 PM   #104 
                                      - "I NO don't think"? What?  Starbucks Anarchist   Feb-03-09 09:42 PM   #105 
                                         - Yes I DID say that but it doesn't mean I can't believe it is true that being gay is not a choice.  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:46 PM   #110 
     - His marriage isn't. His integrity is.  Starry Messenger   Feb-03-09 08:49 PM   #19 
     - Again the right wingers would use this argument against an outed homosexual  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 08:50 PM   #25 
        - Right wingers are scum.  Starry Messenger   Feb-03-09 08:51 PM   #29 
           - Unfortunately sometimes you do have to care....  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 08:56 PM   #35 
              - Your question addressed the stance of Du-ers.  Starry Messenger   Feb-03-09 08:59 PM   #39 
     - Uh, RU Gay?  JeffreyWilliamson   Feb-03-09 08:51 PM   #27 
     - No not gay...  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 08:55 PM   #33 
        - My point is this...  JeffreyWilliamson   Feb-03-09 09:04 PM   #46 
           - I disagree:  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:11 PM   #56 
              - I'm not imagining an injury to myself at all...  JeffreyWilliamson   Feb-03-09 09:16 PM   #65 
              - Of course you are imagining an injury or you wouldn't mention "dying wife"  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:23 PM   #75 
                 - Once again...  JeffreyWilliamson   Feb-03-09 09:37 PM   #101 
                    - Again you are assuming that some people might not be more genetically predisposed to cheating than  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:44 PM   #108 
              - It's not about holding a grudge  skepticscott   Feb-03-09 09:18 PM   #69 
                 - JRE wasnt running for Pope...so NO I'm not going to hold someone to a higher "moral" standard in his  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:26 PM   #80 
     - If part of someone's public image is that they are a good moral man, this matters.  Zynx   Feb-03-09 09:11 PM   #55 
     - It is the publics business in some ways  Juche   Feb-03-09 09:44 PM   #109 
  - One of those two is not the same.....  FrenchieCat   Feb-03-09 08:40 PM   #2 
  - HOW is someone else's marriage any of your business?  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 08:43 PM   #4 
  - Adultery of necessity includes doing injury to at least one other person;  elleng   Feb-03-09 08:43 PM   #5 
  - Again you don't really know that to be true...  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 08:44 PM   #11 
     - There are plenty of instances of chronically ill people letting their partners take lovers.  Runcible Spoon   Feb-03-09 08:50 PM   #23 
     - Yes, its a general statement that adultery involves injury to another  elleng   Feb-03-09 09:14 PM   #61 
        - Again morally judgemental about something that's really not your business.  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:16 PM   #63 
           - Moral uprightness of public 'servant' IS my business.  elleng   Feb-03-09 09:18 PM   #70 
              - Private "morality" is really none of your business  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:29 PM   #84 
  - Oh cut the crap already. Edwards is joke and that is HIS fault, not ours.  Inspired   Feb-03-09 08:43 PM   #6 
  - Thanks for NOT having anything meaningful to say...nt  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 08:51 PM   #28 
     - Right back at 'ya...nt  Inspired   Feb-03-09 08:54 PM   #32 
  - Being gay isn't a choice but being a cheater is. No comparison. n/t  sandyj999   Feb-03-09 08:43 PM   #7 
  - And how do you know that either of those assertions are either true or false?  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 08:58 PM   #38 
     - This is homophobia at its finest.  cboy4   Feb-03-09 09:11 PM   #54 
     - Care to prove me wrong?  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:13 PM   #58 
        - I told you you wouldn't get it.  cboy4   Feb-03-09 09:31 PM   #86 
           - Ummm NO - I was referring to the cheating straight guy with the use of the word promiscuous..  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:34 PM   #91 
     - Oh my word, I cannot believe I am reading this.  Bluebear   Feb-03-09 09:36 PM   #96 
     - So you think that homosexuality is a choice?  Occam Bandage   Feb-03-09 09:50 PM   #116 
  - You're leaving out details that would be important...  JeffreyWilliamson   Feb-03-09 08:44 PM   #8 
  - Um wrongg...  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:03 PM   #45 
     - Wrong on a very, VERY basic level...  JeffreyWilliamson   Feb-03-09 09:09 PM   #50 
        - And it really isn't any body's business what anyone does in their private life  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:15 PM   #62 
           - Okay, one more time...  JeffreyWilliamson   Feb-03-09 09:21 PM   #72 
              - OK but why are cops staking out bathrooms?  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:30 PM   #85 
                 - Do you understand the difference between public and private property?  Starbucks Anarchist   Feb-03-09 09:36 PM   #97 
                 - Um yeah... and should the government be able to therefore  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:47 PM   #111 
                 - No, it's not...  JeffreyWilliamson   Feb-03-09 09:44 PM   #107 
                    - If it was in public view I would say there was no expectation of privacy.  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:50 PM   #114 
  - What if his scandal was that he was a cannibal?  Uzybone   Feb-03-09 08:44 PM   #9 
  - Well THAT would be a CRIME and not an apples to apples comparison  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 08:48 PM   #16 
  - What if Julius Ceasar had a Piper Cub?  AngryAmish   Feb-03-09 08:44 PM   #10 
  - Then he'd also need to have a time machine  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:17 PM   #66 
  - Being gay is hardly just about one's sexual life.  Starbucks Anarchist   Feb-03-09 08:45 PM   #12 
  - And how can you prove EITHER assertion?  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:19 PM   #71 
     - Holy shit, you're a moron.  Starbucks Anarchist   Feb-03-09 09:38 PM   #102 
        - Thanks for not answering the point...  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:50 PM   #117 
  - I'm too tired to take this full-on but...  Runcible Spoon   Feb-03-09 08:45 PM   #13 
  - Being gay isn't a scandal. What if he DIDN'T cheat on his wife and probably have a child with  jenmito   Feb-03-09 08:46 PM   #14 
  - NEITHER is a scandal - did you just miss the quotation marks around the word "scandal" in the OP?  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:31 PM   #87 
     - Having an affair and a love child IS a scandal. You think that should be in the same category as  jenmito   Feb-03-09 09:37 PM   #98 
  - Apples and Oranges - and never the twain shall meet in my opinion N/T  Mira   Feb-03-09 08:48 PM   #17 
  - What if flying monkeys came out his butt  LittleClarkie   Feb-03-09 08:48 PM   #18 
  - What if he instead ....  Trajan   Feb-03-09 08:49 PM   #21 
  - What if frogs had wings?  Jamastiene   Feb-03-09 09:44 PM   #106 
  - I doubt that your many threads about Edwards will convince anyone he should be the one  jenmito   Feb-03-09 08:50 PM   #22 
  - YOUR JUST A HATER!!!!! EDWARDS IS TEH AWESOME!1!!!!!!!  Alexander   Feb-03-09 09:13 PM   #59 
  - Your rite!!!11!!  jenmito   Feb-03-09 09:24 PM   #76 
  - Apparently till you get tired of making juvenile responses...  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:35 PM   #92 
  - Stick to the OP and convince me that I'm wrong...  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:18 PM   #67 
     - I DID-see post #14. Duh-and being gay isn't a choice. Cheating on your wife and having a child is.  jenmito   Feb-03-09 09:22 PM   #74 
  - What if...  Fabio   Feb-03-09 08:50 PM   #24 
  - I hate it when I see people try to portray him as a victim of our intolerance.  Inspired   Feb-03-09 08:56 PM   #36 
  - Here we go again .. comparing gay to bad.  cboy4   Feb-03-09 08:55 PM   #34 
  - !!!! This thread should be disappeared n/t  slipslidingaway   Feb-03-09 09:08 PM   #49 
  - Ummm NO not at all... Did you miss the quotes around the word "scandal"  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:36 PM   #95 
  - As long as he wasn't cheating with a guy or gal -otherwise its still an extramarital affair  stray cat   Feb-03-09 09:01 PM   #43 
  - "Why should EITHER be any of our business?"  ZombieHorde   Feb-03-09 09:02 PM   #44 
  - I don't recall John preaching for monogamy or vowing to punish marital cheaters  ddeclue   Feb-03-09 09:37 PM   #99 
  - It says a lot about a person's judgment that he thinks it's OK to have an affair as he's making a  ogneopasno   Feb-03-09 09:07 PM   #48 
  - Apples and oranges.  Demobrat   Feb-03-09 09:09 PM   #51 
  - Reality: A candidate has the obligation to reveal things that would bring them down.  NYC_SKP   Feb-03-09 09:10 PM   #52 
  - what if Edwards' scandal was that he is a two-faced  GreenArrow   Feb-03-09 09:11 PM   #53 
  - Bingo. nt  Captain Hilts   Feb-03-09 09:27 PM   #81 
  - Your first thread on this failed so badly that you started a second one?  Alexander   Feb-03-09 09:12 PM   #57 
  - I don't think the relation you are making between homosexuality and adultery is very flawed.  Colobo   Feb-03-09 09:13 PM   #60 
  - Yes because both are so similar.  cboy4   Feb-03-09 09:32 PM   #88 
  - Oh, is this another "cultural" thing we won't understand, like cockfighting?  Bluebear   Feb-03-09 09:50 PM   #115 
  - I still want my money back n/t  mth44sc   Feb-03-09 09:16 PM   #64 
  - Interesting that you picked that. McGreevey also gave his lover a job. That's  NYCGirl   Feb-03-09 09:24 PM   #77 
  - among other things Edwards was clear that gays like me were too immoral to marry  dsc   Feb-03-09 09:26 PM   #78 
  - I am sorry, I do not see being gay as a moral failure  KitchenWitch   Feb-03-09 09:27 PM   #82 
  - ARE YOU ARGUING THAT GAY IS """GENETIC""""????1  Bluebear   Feb-03-09 09:37 PM   #100 
  - Being gay isn't the equivalent of betraying someone's trust  Time for change   Feb-03-09 09:32 PM   #89 
  - I just think he's always been a phony with his finger stuck in the air to see which way the wind is  book_worm   Feb-03-09 09:32 PM   #90 
  - Being gay is not "sexual life".  Bluebear   Feb-03-09 09:35 PM   #94 
  - By position John and Elizabeth would have been but are not now  saltpoint   Feb-03-09 09:38 PM   #103 
  - I must have missed the "homosexuality is a moral failure" memo. nt  Occam Bandage   Feb-03-09 09:48 PM   #112 
  - He's out fucking around while his wife is sick, but he wants Americans  Ilsa   Feb-03-09 09:49 PM   #113 
  - Locking.  wakemeupwhenitsover   Feb-03-09 09:50 PM   #118 
 

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