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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-09 12:47 PM
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71. Following your "logic," I can't prove that Barack Obama exists.
That's a pretty sorry and shallow defense you've hauled out to defend an evidence-barren belief in Jesus, ie: you can't prove that anyone existed so Jesus must have been just as real as John Adams.

I'm sure you support my belief that sometime in the near future every inch of asphalt in the world will morph into edible pumpkin pie, that you don't find it stupid at all, and that we should immediately throw together a billion-dollar government program to be ready to harvest the pumpkin pie to better feed the world's hungry.
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  -Obama's biblically-correct way to do in the GOP: damonm  Feb-02-09 04:44 PM   #0 
  - Killing with kindness, I suppose? Obama may be on to just that.  nomorenomore08   Feb-02-09 04:52 PM   #1 
  - Proverbs isn't Christian, it's Judaic.  stopbush   Feb-02-09 05:21 PM   #2 
  - Picky, picky...  damonm   Feb-02-09 05:44 PM   #3 
  - It's very's the way Christians  Cha   Feb-02-09 05:54 PM   #5 
  - If you really want to blow their minds, mention that Jesus wasn't a Christian.  stopbush   Feb-02-09 06:04 PM   #6 
  - According to historians, Jesus of Nazareth did exist  chiefofclarinet   Feb-03-09 08:36 AM   #20 
  - Wow, you are absolutely wrong on every account in this post.  stopbush   Feb-03-09 12:25 PM   #30 
  - There's no proof Cleopatra existed either in that case, anyone with a DNA test confirming her?  uponit7771   Feb-03-09 01:39 PM   #34 
  - Bad analogy. Contemporaneous writings exist that attest to  stopbush   Feb-03-09 02:24 PM   #37 
  - So, do you trust ANY history prior to the printing press?  chiefofclarinet   Feb-03-09 07:38 PM   #47 
  - Let me address your post as sensibly as I can.  stopbush   Feb-03-09 10:58 PM   #49 
  - good arguing. I think I'll cut and paste your responses.  provis99   Feb-04-09 02:25 PM   #78 
  - Nobody is dismissing...  snake in the grass   Feb-04-09 01:16 AM   #55 
  - Unsuccessfully? 2000 years later- I'd say it was successful.  Dr Fate   Feb-03-09 11:17 PM   #51 
  - You don't take my meaning.  stopbush   Feb-04-09 10:35 PM   #86 
  - ah, so you believe in absolutes - well, that's a start. ;)  Divine Discontent   Feb-04-09 04:57 AM   #65 
  - Question: did Nazareth exist when Jesus supposedly lived?  stopbush   Feb-03-09 02:47 PM   #39 
  - Historically he DID exist, and most likely believed in his own principles, so in that respect....  demodonkey   Feb-03-09 10:28 AM   #26 
     - There's no historic proof that Jesus existed, so please stop saying that.  stopbush   Feb-03-09 12:48 PM   #32 
        - You really have no proof that Jesus did NOT exist  ddeclue   Feb-04-09 01:08 AM   #53 
           - Faith is the most overrated commodity in the world.  stopbush   Feb-04-09 12:40 PM   #70 
  - Actually, heaping coals was also a sign of charity.  Why Syzygy   Feb-04-09 02:20 AM   #60 
     - As usual, the Bible wants to have it both ways.  stopbush   Feb-04-09 12:49 PM   #72 
  - The passage is a fundamental Christian belief ....  Clio the Leo   Feb-02-09 06:29 PM   #7 
     - Yeah, notice how the action isn't really meant as a good deed at all but  stopbush   Feb-02-09 06:35 PM   #9 
        - Do you know that there are Christians among DU?  damonm   Feb-02-09 06:49 PM   #10 
        - One day our fellow liberals will realize....  Clio the Leo   Feb-02-09 07:10 PM   #13 
        - hear hear n/m  EraOfResponsibility   Feb-02-09 07:23 PM   #14 
        - Some day, the religious will realize that their demographic is a demographic of choice,  stopbush   Feb-02-09 11:46 PM   #18 
        - I'm sorry, but you are showing massive ignorance here  chiefofclarinet   Feb-03-09 09:06 AM   #21 
        - I don't have time right now to get into it, but I reject your assertion that  stopbush   Feb-03-09 09:45 AM   #25 
           - And how do you know that George Washington, Thomas Jefferson or John Adams existed?  ddeclue   Feb-04-09 01:26 AM   #56 
              - Following your "logic," I can't prove that Barack Obama exists.  stopbush   Feb-04-09 12:47 PM   #71 
        - And being an intelligent person you surely know....  Clio the Leo   Feb-03-09 09:17 AM   #22 
           - Our equalities and rights are only granted to us at birth because we have the Constitution  stopbush   Feb-03-09 01:14 PM   #33 
              - No.....  Clio the Leo   Feb-03-09 09:39 PM   #48 
                 - But what are basic rights? Every country defines them differently.  stopbush   Feb-03-09 11:14 PM   #50 
        - Very well said!  tilsammans   Feb-03-09 09:39 AM   #24 
        - I'd like to hear some of the self-righteous "anti-theists" tell  Common Sense Party   Feb-03-09 01:48 PM   #35 
        - Sure, I'd tell him. He would probably enjoy the debate. No fear there.  stopbush   Feb-03-09 03:27 PM   #42 
           - Who mentioned anything about civil rights?  Common Sense Party   Feb-04-09 02:13 AM   #59 
           - I did. I simply asked you a question.  stopbush   Feb-04-09 12:58 PM   #73 
           - Okay...  Common Sense Party   Feb-04-09 01:50 PM   #74 
              - That's a decent answer. Let me ask a more-specific question:  stopbush   Feb-04-09 02:09 PM   #75 
                 - I believe I already answered that.  Common Sense Party   Feb-04-09 03:12 PM   #80 
                    - Fine. So what was your point in bringing up Dr King in the first place?  stopbush   Feb-04-09 03:18 PM   #81 
                       - It certainly wasn't civil rights.  Common Sense Party   Feb-04-09 03:20 PM   #82 
                          - So what was special and different about Dr King outside of his  stopbush   Feb-04-09 03:30 PM   #83 
                             - Okay, I'll tell you you're wrong.  Common Sense Party   Feb-04-09 03:39 PM   #84 
                                - So, the "good" that Christianity did in Dr King's case was  stopbush   Feb-04-09 03:47 PM   #85 
        - Tell it!  PylesMalfunction   Feb-03-09 06:53 PM   #46 
        - I do no favors attacking imaginary beings? So what?  stopbush   Feb-02-09 11:36 PM   #16 
        - I imagine a lot of people will...  LanternWaste   Feb-03-09 09:20 AM   #23 
        - Religious beliefs would deserve the same respect as do  stopbush   Feb-03-09 01:49 PM   #36 
           - I'm afraid I missed...  LanternWaste   Feb-03-09 02:54 PM   #40 
              - Perhaps your post didn't accurately portray your position.  stopbush   Feb-03-09 03:55 PM   #44 
                 - I'm afraid I don't see anything demonstrably "better"  LanternWaste   Feb-03-09 05:42 PM   #45 
        - Interesting....  damonm   Feb-03-09 12:11 PM   #29 
        - What I KNOW is that there is no EVIDENCE to believe that any of it is true,  stopbush   Feb-03-09 12:39 PM   #31 
        - Attacking your fellow Dems and Progressives for their beliefs is disrespectful  riqster   Feb-03-09 02:31 PM   #38 
           - Blatantly rude? Again, religion gets a special carve out because ????  stopbush   Feb-03-09 03:41 PM   #43 
              - Well you really can NOT prove that anything that they believe is a "fantasy"  ddeclue   Feb-04-09 01:12 AM   #54 
                 - Sorry, but religious beliefs demand the term fantasy be applied  stopbush   Feb-04-09 10:12 AM   #66 
                    - No you can't prove your case that it is indeed a fantasy.  ddeclue   Feb-04-09 10:16 AM   #67 
                       - Go ahead and base your life on belief in the Tooth Fairy.  stopbush   Feb-04-09 12:34 PM   #69 
        - dupe  stopbush   Feb-02-09 11:36 PM   #17 
        - A jaundiced eye sees everything in a particular tint...  SidneyCarton   Feb-03-09 11:35 AM   #27 
  - He seems to have a pretty solid "Do unto others" and "Turn the other cheek" approach as well.  phleshdef   Feb-02-09 05:51 PM   #4 
  - Romans 12 is one of my favorite passages of scripture....  Clio the Leo   Feb-02-09 06:32 PM   #8 
  - Okay, I'm reaching back almost 30 years here, but  madamesilverspurs   Feb-02-09 07:02 PM   #11 
  - if i recall correctly, burning embers were also used in the ancient world to  mythyc   Feb-02-09 11:56 PM   #19 
  - Well it might at least tweek their conscience. I think it's also a genuine invite Barack has >  cooolandrew   Feb-02-09 07:05 PM   #12 
  - I always put God in the terms of good it seems to tranlate well for me.>  cooolandrew   Feb-02-09 11:29 PM   #15 
  - "Thou shalt not kill."  avaistheone1   Feb-03-09 11:37 AM   #28 
  - More joy from the "good" book: fuck your adversaries over, and daddy will love you  PurityOfEssence   Feb-03-09 02:59 PM   #41 
  - The bible isn't a single book - it's 40 something books  ddeclue   Feb-04-09 01:38 AM   #57 
     - 66 books in the KJV  Common Sense Party   Feb-04-09 02:08 AM   #58 
     -'s common usage, and deliberately colloquial  PurityOfEssence   Feb-04-09 02:44 AM   #62 
        - But your point is a deliberate straw-man  ddeclue   Feb-04-09 10:20 AM   #68 
           - balderdash  PurityOfEssence   Feb-04-09 02:22 PM   #76 
           - Your posts concedes that the books of the Bible were authored by men, not god.  stopbush   Feb-04-09 02:25 PM   #77 
           - But the 4 Gospels are rife with allusiuons to and quotations from the OT.  stopbush   Feb-04-09 02:56 PM   #79 
  - I dont get it;....  trekbiker   Feb-04-09 12:56 AM   #52 
  - It's due to  Why Syzygy   Feb-04-09 02:35 AM   #61 
  - Another alternate view  Why Syzygy   Feb-04-09 03:19 AM   #63 
  - See how well that worked for the Jews. FUCK THAT n|t  Eryemil   Feb-04-09 04:40 AM   #64 

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