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Wed Feb-04-09 10:20 AM
Response to Reply #62 |
| 68. But your point is a deliberate straw-man |
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You are deliberately creating a straw man by IGNORING the fact that they are indeed SEPARATE BOOKS - SEPARATE WORKS by holding the authors of the Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) responsible for the works of other authors to which they obviously have no responsibility who lived many centuries before them. The Old Testament says "an eye for an eye" - the New says "turn the other cheek". Each book has to be judged on its OWN not denigrated for the writing of a previous author.  |
| -Obama's biblically-correct way to do in the GOP: |
damonm |
Feb-02-09 04:44 PM |
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Killing with kindness, I suppose? Obama may be on to just that. |
nomorenomore08 |
Feb-02-09 04:52 PM |
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Proverbs isn't Christian, it's Judaic. |
stopbush |
Feb-02-09 05:21 PM |
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Picky, picky... |
damonm |
Feb-02-09 05:44 PM |
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It's very ironic..it's the way Christians |
Cha |
Feb-02-09 05:54 PM |
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If you really want to blow their minds, mention that Jesus wasn't a Christian. |
stopbush |
Feb-02-09 06:04 PM |
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According to historians, Jesus of Nazareth did exist |
chiefofclarinet |
Feb-03-09 08:36 AM |
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Wow, you are absolutely wrong on every account in this post. |
stopbush |
Feb-03-09 12:25 PM |
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There's no proof Cleopatra existed either in that case, anyone with a DNA test confirming her? |
uponit7771 |
Feb-03-09 01:39 PM |
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Bad analogy. Contemporaneous writings exist that attest to |
stopbush |
Feb-03-09 02:24 PM |
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So, do you trust ANY history prior to the printing press? |
chiefofclarinet |
Feb-03-09 07:38 PM |
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Let me address your post as sensibly as I can. |
stopbush |
Feb-03-09 10:58 PM |
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good arguing. I think I'll cut and paste your responses. |
provis99 |
Feb-04-09 02:25 PM |
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Nobody is dismissing... |
snake in the grass |
Feb-04-09 01:16 AM |
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Unsuccessfully? 2000 years later- I'd say it was successful. |
Dr Fate |
Feb-03-09 11:17 PM |
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You don't take my meaning. |
stopbush |
Feb-04-09 10:35 PM |
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ah, so you believe in absolutes - well, that's a start. ;) |
Divine Discontent |
Feb-04-09 04:57 AM |
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Question: did Nazareth exist when Jesus supposedly lived? |
stopbush |
Feb-03-09 02:47 PM |
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Historically he DID exist, and most likely believed in his own principles, so in that respect.... |
demodonkey |
Feb-03-09 10:28 AM |
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There's no historic proof that Jesus existed, so please stop saying that. |
stopbush |
Feb-03-09 12:48 PM |
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You really have no proof that Jesus did NOT exist |
ddeclue |
Feb-04-09 01:08 AM |
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Faith is the most overrated commodity in the world. |
stopbush |
Feb-04-09 12:40 PM |
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Actually, heaping coals was also a sign of charity. |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-04-09 02:20 AM |
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As usual, the Bible wants to have it both ways. |
stopbush |
Feb-04-09 12:49 PM |
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The passage is a fundamental Christian belief .... |
Clio the Leo |
Feb-02-09 06:29 PM |
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Yeah, notice how the action isn't really meant as a good deed at all but |
stopbush |
Feb-02-09 06:35 PM |
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Do you know that there are Christians among DU? |
damonm |
Feb-02-09 06:49 PM |
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One day our fellow liberals will realize.... |
Clio the Leo |
Feb-02-09 07:10 PM |
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hear hear n/m |
EraOfResponsibility |
Feb-02-09 07:23 PM |
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Some day, the religious will realize that their demographic is a demographic of choice, |
stopbush |
Feb-02-09 11:46 PM |
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I'm sorry, but you are showing massive ignorance here |
chiefofclarinet |
Feb-03-09 09:06 AM |
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I don't have time right now to get into it, but I reject your assertion that |
stopbush |
Feb-03-09 09:45 AM |
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And how do you know that George Washington, Thomas Jefferson or John Adams existed? |
ddeclue |
Feb-04-09 01:26 AM |
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Following your "logic," I can't prove that Barack Obama exists. |
stopbush |
Feb-04-09 12:47 PM |
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And being an intelligent person you surely know.... |
Clio the Leo |
Feb-03-09 09:17 AM |
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Our equalities and rights are only granted to us at birth because we have the Constitution |
stopbush |
Feb-03-09 01:14 PM |
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No..... |
Clio the Leo |
Feb-03-09 09:39 PM |
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But what are basic rights? Every country defines them differently. |
stopbush |
Feb-03-09 11:14 PM |
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Very well said! |
tilsammans |
Feb-03-09 09:39 AM |
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I'd like to hear some of the self-righteous "anti-theists" tell |
Common Sense Party |
Feb-03-09 01:48 PM |
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Sure, I'd tell him. He would probably enjoy the debate. No fear there. |
stopbush |
Feb-03-09 03:27 PM |
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Who mentioned anything about civil rights? |
Common Sense Party |
Feb-04-09 02:13 AM |
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I did. I simply asked you a question. |
stopbush |
Feb-04-09 12:58 PM |
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Okay... |
Common Sense Party |
Feb-04-09 01:50 PM |
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That's a decent answer. Let me ask a more-specific question: |
stopbush |
Feb-04-09 02:09 PM |
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I believe I already answered that. |
Common Sense Party |
Feb-04-09 03:12 PM |
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Fine. So what was your point in bringing up Dr King in the first place? |
stopbush |
Feb-04-09 03:18 PM |
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It certainly wasn't civil rights. |
Common Sense Party |
Feb-04-09 03:20 PM |
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So what was special and different about Dr King outside of his |
stopbush |
Feb-04-09 03:30 PM |
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Okay, I'll tell you you're wrong. |
Common Sense Party |
Feb-04-09 03:39 PM |
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So, the "good" that Christianity did in Dr King's case was |
stopbush |
Feb-04-09 03:47 PM |
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Tell it! |
PylesMalfunction |
Feb-03-09 06:53 PM |
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I do no favors attacking imaginary beings? So what? |
stopbush |
Feb-02-09 11:36 PM |
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I imagine a lot of people will... |
LanternWaste |
Feb-03-09 09:20 AM |
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Religious beliefs would deserve the same respect as do |
stopbush |
Feb-03-09 01:49 PM |
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I'm afraid I missed... |
LanternWaste |
Feb-03-09 02:54 PM |
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Perhaps your post didn't accurately portray your position. |
stopbush |
Feb-03-09 03:55 PM |
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I'm afraid I don't see anything demonstrably "better" |
LanternWaste |
Feb-03-09 05:42 PM |
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Interesting.... |
damonm |
Feb-03-09 12:11 PM |
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What I KNOW is that there is no EVIDENCE to believe that any of it is true, |
stopbush |
Feb-03-09 12:39 PM |
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Attacking your fellow Dems and Progressives for their beliefs is disrespectful |
riqster |
Feb-03-09 02:31 PM |
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Blatantly rude? Again, religion gets a special carve out because ???? |
stopbush |
Feb-03-09 03:41 PM |
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Well you really can NOT prove that anything that they believe is a "fantasy" |
ddeclue |
Feb-04-09 01:12 AM |
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Sorry, but religious beliefs demand the term fantasy be applied |
stopbush |
Feb-04-09 10:12 AM |
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No you can't prove your case that it is indeed a fantasy. |
ddeclue |
Feb-04-09 10:16 AM |
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Go ahead and base your life on belief in the Tooth Fairy. |
stopbush |
Feb-04-09 12:34 PM |
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dupe |
stopbush |
Feb-02-09 11:36 PM |
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A jaundiced eye sees everything in a particular tint... |
SidneyCarton |
Feb-03-09 11:35 AM |
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He seems to have a pretty solid "Do unto others" and "Turn the other cheek" approach as well. |
phleshdef |
Feb-02-09 05:51 PM |
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Romans 12 is one of my favorite passages of scripture.... |
Clio the Leo |
Feb-02-09 06:32 PM |
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Okay, I'm reaching back almost 30 years here, but |
madamesilverspurs |
Feb-02-09 07:02 PM |
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if i recall correctly, burning embers were also used in the ancient world to |
mythyc |
Feb-02-09 11:56 PM |
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Well it might at least tweek their conscience. I think it's also a genuine invite Barack has > |
cooolandrew |
Feb-02-09 07:05 PM |
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I always put God in the terms of good it seems to tranlate well for me.> |
cooolandrew |
Feb-02-09 11:29 PM |
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"Thou shalt not kill." |
avaistheone1 |
Feb-03-09 11:37 AM |
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More joy from the "good" book: fuck your adversaries over, and daddy will love you |
PurityOfEssence |
Feb-03-09 02:59 PM |
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The bible isn't a single book - it's 40 something books |
ddeclue |
Feb-04-09 01:38 AM |
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66 books in the KJV |
Common Sense Party |
Feb-04-09 02:08 AM |
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Um...it's common usage, and deliberately colloquial |
PurityOfEssence |
Feb-04-09 02:44 AM |
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But your point is a deliberate straw-man |
ddeclue |
Feb-04-09 10:20 AM |
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balderdash |
PurityOfEssence |
Feb-04-09 02:22 PM |
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Your posts concedes that the books of the Bible were authored by men, not god. |
stopbush |
Feb-04-09 02:25 PM |
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But the 4 Gospels are rife with allusiuons to and quotations from the OT. |
stopbush |
Feb-04-09 02:56 PM |
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I dont get it;.... |
trekbiker |
Feb-04-09 12:56 AM |
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It's due to |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-04-09 02:35 AM |
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Another alternate view |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-04-09 03:19 AM |
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See how well that worked for the Jews. FUCK THAT n|t |
Eryemil |
Feb-04-09 04:40 AM |
#64 |
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