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44. Shift to the left
I would feel so much better in this country if the GOP let go of the religious right and the desire to only help rich white folks. If they simply embraced a conservative, less government approach, then they wouldn't be so harmful. I would weep at the idea of a Republican president if I knew they had only slight disagreements with how the Dem's govern, but wouldn't use their office to enact their own personal values and morals on everyone else.

I'd like to see the GOP really truly reinvent itself and stop running against minorities, women, and gays. Stop making a woman's choice an issue and stop trying to push religion on to everyone. And start embracing things like the environment, science and equality. Maybe then, despite their "trickle up" way of life, i might not be sick to my stomach at the the thought of a GOP in office.

But it's a dream, it wont happen. I cannot foresee the the GOP letting loose they death grip clutch on the bible anytime soon.
But if there really were a choice between implode and shift, I'd choose shift, because in this 2 party systems, they wont ever implode, they will only get more extreme, so you have to look at it like that. You want to see them get even farther to the right, or take some steps to the left?
That's the real question.
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  -Would you rather see the GOP totally implode or make a shift to the left? alwysdrunk  Jan-30-09 03:05 PM   #0 
  - Implode.  ShortnFiery   Jan-30-09 03:06 PM   #1 
  - IMPLODE!  Milspec   Jan-31-09 10:50 AM   #84 
  - Both. (nt)  w4rma   Jan-30-09 03:07 PM   #2 
  - Shift left  leftstreet   Jan-30-09 03:07 PM   #3 
  - That would be imploding for them.  Solomon   Feb-02-09 01:00 PM   #121 
  - Im  shraby   Jan-30-09 03:07 PM   #4 
  - Actually, in the dark of night...  lapfog_1   Jan-30-09 03:08 PM   #5 
  - Mars ain't far enough away.  jkirch   Jan-30-09 04:40 PM   #41 
  - Send them all to the Sun  Hugabear   Jan-31-09 01:12 AM   #63 
     - And they have to take the ashes of Ronnie Raygun with them  lapfog_1   Jan-31-09 01:39 AM   #66 
  - Totally implode...  KansDem   Jan-30-09 03:08 PM   #6 
  - Implode.  BrklynLiberal   Jan-30-09 03:09 PM   #7 
  - Implode  hamsterjill   Jan-30-09 03:10 PM   #8 
  - I'm asking what would be better for the country  alwysdrunk   Jan-30-09 03:14 PM   #13 
     - I share your concern but really we know what is happening here.  CTyankee   Jan-30-09 03:42 PM   #27 
     - I don't think we can. I don't think any party could  alwysdrunk   Jan-30-09 04:00 PM   #35 
        - The point you make is what Thucydides made 2500 years ago about the Athenian Empire.  CTyankee   Jan-30-09 07:20 PM   #45 
     - That's the problem - if you meant that the Democratic party would be the only  jhrobbins   Jan-31-09 05:11 PM   #106 
  - I didn't read the entire post... IMPLODE. (n/t)  WorseBeforeBetter   Jan-30-09 03:10 PM   #9 
  - Continue to implode  graywarrior   Jan-30-09 03:10 PM   #10 
  - If the GOP becomes a minority/regional party, the Democratic party will split in half.  anonymous171   Jan-30-09 03:11 PM   #11 
  - That's exactly what I'm afriad of  alwysdrunk   Jan-30-09 03:15 PM   #15 
  - ummm  wyldwolf   Jan-30-09 03:16 PM   #17 
     - I was using the DLC as a blanket term for conservative democrats.  anonymous171   Jan-30-09 03:18 PM   #18 
        - it doesn't apply  wyldwolf   Jan-30-09 03:25 PM   #21 
  - I think they will have to  Andy823   Jan-30-09 03:13 PM   #12 
  - #3. Rot slowly on the vine.  Lastlaughin08   Jan-30-09 03:15 PM   #14 
  - Implode while shifting left  Happyhippychick   Jan-30-09 03:15 PM   #16 
  - Shift Left  DJ13   Jan-30-09 03:18 PM   #19 
  - If they try to shift to the left, they will implode  librechik   Jan-30-09 03:20 PM   #20 
  - Shift left. nt  Occam Bandage   Jan-30-09 03:26 PM   #22 
  - Damn, I should have made this a poll  alwysdrunk   Jan-30-09 03:30 PM   #23 
  - They cannot shift to the left. It is beyond their belief systems, their code of "life"  NRaleighLiberal   Jan-30-09 03:32 PM   #24 
  - That doesn't make any sense...  hughee99   Jan-31-09 11:25 AM   #87 
  - Shift left. Much further left.  camera obscura   Jan-30-09 03:32 PM   #25 
  - Implode while attempting to shift farther RIGHT.  Larry in KC   Jan-30-09 03:33 PM   #26 
  - Implode than the democratic party split in two  AllentownJake   Jan-30-09 03:44 PM   #28 
  - Yep - that's my dream - Repugs implode, leaving room for a new party (a party for the PEOPLE) to  kath   Feb-01-09 04:52 PM   #109 
  - Disappear  Sultana   Jan-30-09 03:45 PM   #29 
  - Implode, explode, and disappear from our nation. Wanting them to remain is like  T Wolf   Jan-30-09 03:50 PM   #30 
  - Great analogy! n/t  JayMusgrove   Jan-30-09 03:51 PM   #31 
  - The breakup of the USA wouldn't be a bad thing?  alwysdrunk   Jan-30-09 03:54 PM   #33 
  - What? I like America though.  anonymous171   Jan-30-09 04:31 PM   #37 
  - Implode.  bigwillq   Jan-30-09 03:52 PM   #32 
  - Implode and Let the DLC and Blue dogs replace them  Vincardog   Jan-30-09 03:57 PM   #34 
  - Shift left. Move that center. It isn't us vs them. It's good vs bad.  ieoeja   Jan-30-09 04:31 PM   #36 
  - Make a shift to the right and then implode.  Zynx   Jan-30-09 04:33 PM   #38 
  - Their current culture needs to be choked out of existance for 091u2340u generations  uponit7771   Jan-30-09 04:37 PM   #39 
  - Right now it's like watch lemmings go over the cliff.  wildeyed   Jan-30-09 04:38 PM   #40 
  - Implosion! Implosion! It's so much more impressive.  damntexdem   Jan-30-09 05:00 PM   #42 
  - For over 30 years the Republicans have been quite successful selling  Liberal_Stalwart71   Jan-30-09 05:01 PM   #43 
  - I'd rather have Boehner and Cantor than Gingrich and DeLay  Marsala   Jan-30-09 07:34 PM   #48 
  - See my post #45. You should teach Thucydides in your classes, if you don't already!  CTyankee   Jan-30-09 07:37 PM   #49 
  - Thucydides is a staple. And every professor should include it in their classes,  Liberal_Stalwart71   Jan-30-09 08:45 PM   #57 
     - Another good start is good ole Edith Hamilton's "The Greek Way."  CTyankee   Jan-31-09 08:28 AM   #76 
  - And if they do somehow shift left, these people will lose their jobs.  alwysdrunk   Jan-31-09 04:54 PM   #105 
  - Shift to the left  Hellataz   Jan-30-09 05:40 PM   #44 
  - The republican party is the religious right, only for rich white people,  AlinPA   Jan-30-09 08:13 PM   #52 
     - Take a look at some of the southern democrats of more than 60 years ago  hughee99   Jan-31-09 11:30 AM   #88 
  - Disappear  HughMoran   Jan-30-09 07:28 PM   #46 
  - move left  quakerboy   Jan-30-09 07:33 PM   #47 
  - implode  northernlights   Jan-30-09 07:42 PM   #50 
  - oh - they're "dropping" the racism  gabby garcia   Jan-30-09 07:56 PM   #51 
  - Neither i want a coup de grace. A death blow and be done with them. n/t  MyNameGoesHere   Jan-30-09 08:16 PM   #53 
  - History shows that the party that implodes can still have their vision of America win  ShadowLiberal   Jan-30-09 08:21 PM   #54 
  - shift left  Demi_Babe   Jan-30-09 08:24 PM   #55 
  - Dissolve, forever. The Green Party or a new Progressive Party  Norrin Radd   Jan-30-09 08:29 PM   #56 
  - Either would be fine  eridani   Jan-30-09 08:50 PM   #58 
  - I don't give a damn. I just want them to help Obama fix the economy.  Writer   Jan-30-09 08:52 PM   #59 
  - I'd take both  Estrella Del Mar   Jan-30-09 10:11 PM   #60 
  - DIE!!!!! DIE!!!!!  Hawkowl   Jan-30-09 10:21 PM   #61 
  - Both  Juche   Jan-31-09 12:54 AM   #62 
  - I want the GOP to go down in a ginormous, violent implosion...  SKKY   Jan-31-09 01:24 AM   #64 
  - Disincorporated and abolished. Conservatives can reorganize under a new banner. n/t  NEOBuckeye   Jan-31-09 01:25 AM   #65 
  - This isn't another lets change the rules question is it?  Life Long Dem   Jan-31-09 01:41 AM   #67 
  - I'd rather they wake up and smell the coffee  cherish44   Jan-31-09 01:47 AM   #68 
  - It wouldn't be the first time in American history  carnie_sf   Jan-31-09 01:58 AM   #69 
  - I am with carnie_sf - Major parties have folded before  sampsonblk   Jan-31-09 02:23 AM   #70 
  - Go left ... because  Raine   Jan-31-09 04:10 AM   #71 
  - That's true, what happens to states like Georgia and Missisippi if they go hard right  alwysdrunk   Jan-31-09 10:57 AM   #86 
  - Implode  davidpdx   Jan-31-09 06:03 AM   #72 
  - I'm Grover Norquistian on this: Drown it in the bathtub.  WinkyDink   Jan-31-09 06:21 AM   #73 
  - I would like the Dem's and the Rep's to both move Left. Repukes are so far  harun   Jan-31-09 07:01 AM   #74 
  - Shift left. We are Obama. Resistance is futile. n/t  greguganus   Jan-31-09 07:56 AM   #75 
  - as much as id rejoice at their demise  iamthebandfanman   Jan-31-09 08:46 AM   #77 
  - They need to be gone as much as the other Talibans of the world need to be erased.  dcindian   Jan-31-09 08:57 AM   #78 
  - One is already happening.  Control-Z   Jan-31-09 09:23 AM   #79 
  - They are going to have to at least reprioritize some of their positions  alwysdrunk   Jan-31-09 10:54 AM   #85 
     - Well, when you put it that way.  Control-Z   Jan-31-09 04:09 PM   #103 
  - shift to the left. which will force the dems to move more left too  La Lioness Priyanka   Jan-31-09 09:57 AM   #80 
  - Completely implode.  Phx_Dem   Jan-31-09 10:05 AM   #81 
  - No matter...  friedgreentomatoes   Jan-31-09 10:35 AM   #82 
  - implode and disappear forever in a puff of fetid smoke.  CitizenLeft   Jan-31-09 10:44 AM   #83 
  - Shift left.  backscatter712   Jan-31-09 11:37 AM   #89 
  - I'd rather have the DEMS shift left. Sigh.  FarceOfNature   Jan-31-09 11:57 AM   #90 
  - i think the dems would shift left if the repubs did first. branding and what not.  La Lioness Priyanka   Jan-31-09 12:51 PM   #92 
  - Yeah well a girl can dream can't she...  FarceOfNature   Jan-31-09 12:56 PM   #93 
     - yes, she can and so can i  La Lioness Priyanka   Jan-31-09 01:31 PM   #99 
  - Right. Not once during the Bush administration...  Vektor   Jan-31-09 01:21 PM   #98 
  - I like it right where it is  underpants   Jan-31-09 12:01 PM   #91 
  - Actually the Republicans used to be much further to the left  Jennicut   Jan-31-09 01:09 PM   #94 
  - You make a damn good argument.  alwysdrunk   Jan-31-09 04:23 PM   #104 
     - Well, I want the Rethugs to implode but then I don't really like multiple parties  Jennicut   Feb-01-09 09:03 AM   #107 
  - Shift to the left. Maybe the Blue Dogs will follow and we can get  mmonk   Jan-31-09 01:13 PM   #95 
  - Finish the implosion already underway, then disappear entirely.  Vektor   Jan-31-09 01:17 PM   #96 
  - Tiny enough to drown in the bathtub. *BLUB*  Arugula Latte   Jan-31-09 01:20 PM   #97 
  - They're clearly moving right, so I opt for implosion, please. n/t  AtomicKitten   Jan-31-09 01:40 PM   #100 
  - The Repuke party can self destruct any way they please  Sebastian Doyle   Jan-31-09 02:27 PM   #101 
  - The GOP is on it's way to imploding.....No doubt about it!  MadMaddie   Jan-31-09 02:29 PM   #102 
  - Shift to the RIGHT a little more and  Are_grits_groceries   Feb-01-09 09:15 AM   #108 
  - They've already imploded. Now they need to merge to the left. nt  LaydeeBug   Feb-01-09 05:44 PM   #110 
  - I think the GOP will splinter, not implode  chiefofclarinet   Feb-01-09 09:37 PM   #111 
  - Let's be fair with the amount of DINOs in the party the system is farr from that.  cooolandrew   Feb-01-09 10:11 PM   #112 
  - Is "cease to exist" an option?  Proud Liberal Dem   Feb-01-09 11:25 PM   #113 
  - shift to the Left  Two Americas   Feb-02-09 12:25 AM   #114 
  - Implode, we need at least two new parties in this country...  JCMach1   Feb-02-09 04:38 AM   #115 
  - They smell of torture. Exterminate.  Cobalt-60   Feb-02-09 05:31 AM   #116 
  - Shift to the left  rocktivity   Feb-02-09 07:15 AM   #117 
  - Yes  PVnRT   Feb-02-09 07:48 AM   #118 
  - simple politics - whoever isn't happy with the Dems  jacksonian   Feb-02-09 10:19 AM   #119 
  - They need to do a really good impression of Meteor Crater.  Manifestor_of_Light   Feb-02-09 12:48 PM   #120 
  - I'll take "Dead American Political Parties" for $500, Alex  ronnykmarshall   Feb-02-09 01:05 PM   #122 

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