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Sun Jan-25-09 11:10 AM
Response to Reply #57 |
| 134. You're not allowed to make things up to fit your argument. |
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One, that line you quoted is from one article which is the sole source for claiming she said that. Second, you ignore that even that article includes the following just below that quote:
"She won praise Friday from the Human Rights Campaign for her stands on gay and lesbian issues; from NARAL Pro-Choice America for her support of abortion rights; from the Sierra Club for promoting "clean energy and green jobs;" and from the old-line liberal Americans for Democratic Action for supporting liberal causes while representing a conservative area."
Further, you clearly don't know about her professional or electoral history:
"During the Clinton Administration, Gillibrand served as Special Counsel to the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), Andrew Cuomo. She worked on HUD's Labor Initiative and its New Markets Initiative, on strengthening Davis-Bacon Act enforcement, and on drafting new markets legislation for public and private investment in building infrastructure in lower income areas.
As an associate at Davis Polk & Wardwell and a partner at Boies, Schiller & Flexner, Gillibrand worked on a wide range of legal and policy-related issues. She handled many pro bono cases, including abused women and their children, and tenants seeking safe housing after lead paint and unsafe conditions were found in their homes.
During her employment at the firm, she represented Philip Morris (now Altria) from 1995 to 1999, during major litigation including defense of civil lawsuits and FBI criminal probes. Her campaign finance records show that she had received $23,200 in contributions from some of the company's employees.<8> Gillibrand freely discussed her Philip Morris work with the Albany Times-Union, stating that she had voted in favor of all three anti-tobacco bills in that session of Congress, that she did not try to hide her work for Philip Morris and had spoken about it before to other reporters. She stated that most of her work consisted of assisting the company in assembling documents in response to subpoenas, and that as an associate she had no control over which clients she worked for.<8>
She was the Chair of the Women's Leadership Forum Network and was on the Boards of the Eleanor Roosevelt Legacy Committee and the Commission on Greenway Heritage Conservancy for the Hudson River Valley. She also served on the Advisory Board for the Brennan Center for Justice."
Sweeney wasn't the only one she ran against: she beat another Republican by two to one despite him dropping millions of his own money on the race.
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| -Kirsten Gillibrand is a star |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 08:04 AM |
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Wow. Awesome Article! Congrats Kirsten! |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jan-24-09 08:05 AM |
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in her own mind, maybe. nt |
xchrom |
Jan-24-09 08:06 AM |
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Rush Limpballs |
HelenWheels |
Jan-24-09 08:21 AM |
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Senator-Designate Gillibrand has a FREAKING |
PBS Poll-435 |
Jan-24-09 08:23 AM |
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Funny, and so are Democrats. At least the ones not ignorant of hunters |
Life Long Dem |
Jan-24-09 10:28 AM |
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Limbaugh, as usual, doesn't know what he's talking about. |
TheWraith |
Jan-25-09 10:52 AM |
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Darn, I'd liken it more to "a shooting star" |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-24-09 08:42 AM |
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ah, yes. My day wouldn't be complete without a little of your Marxist comedy routine |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 08:43 AM |
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I love it when you call me "marxist" because it just means that I'm being an patriotic American |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-24-09 08:48 AM |
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The comedy continues - equating "marxist" with "liberal." stop! Yer killin' me! LOL! LOL! |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 08:50 AM |
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I swear. |
PBS Poll-435 |
Jan-24-09 08:53 AM |
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Yes, it can't be changed but sadly, the number one method of suicide by former ... |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-24-09 09:01 AM |
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Neither wyldwolf or I called you a marxist. |
PBS Poll-435 |
Jan-24-09 09:03 AM |
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Semantics. Oh gee, "MARXIST comedy routine" comes real close - we get your gist. |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-24-09 09:27 AM |
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I have a "Yankee" comedy routine that my relatives in NY find hystrical... |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 09:33 AM |
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Yeah, keep on digging ... |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-24-09 09:35 AM |
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I see your comedy instructor didn't tell you how to deal with hecklers |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 09:39 AM |
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I'm surprised you don't like Kirsten |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 09:25 AM |
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Gee, that's what my right wing mother and brothers said about Sarah Palin. |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-24-09 09:32 AM |
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She hates literally every politician in New York. No worries. |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-24-09 10:39 AM |
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"Marxist"??? Are you sure you're hanging out at the right website? What a bizarre pejorative. -nt |
Justitia |
Jan-24-09 01:15 PM |
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that's what I said |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 02:27 PM |
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Yeah, I got that part & I still think calling someone a "Marxist" on this board is bizarre. |
Justitia |
Jan-24-09 02:29 PM |
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I would be if I'd actually done that... |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 02:37 PM |
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sure you did, and thanks for the tip - I will! -eom |
Justitia |
Jan-24-09 02:38 PM |
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no I didn't, and go ahead |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 02:39 PM |
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how did you get "marxist" out of that? nt |
tomp |
Jan-25-09 10:40 AM |
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But Nancy Pelosi can't stand Kirsten Gillibrand |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 09:01 AM |
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Agreed |
PBS Poll-435 |
Jan-24-09 09:05 AM |
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then Pelosi should be happy she's Gillibrand is leaving the House |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 09:06 AM |
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Sometimes Pelosi gets it right, she doesn't care much for the warmongering blue dog |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-24-09 09:24 AM |
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What makes Kirsten a war mongerer? |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 09:27 AM |
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Ok, out of the gate, she stated that her favorite FOCUS is "terrorism" |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-24-09 09:30 AM |
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That makes her a war mongerer? Obama's main priority is terrorism, too. |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 09:35 AM |
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Blue dogs are known for their support of the Military Industrial Complex and mega-corporations. |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-24-09 10:05 AM |
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so is Obama, apparently |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 10:09 AM |
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Where is Gillibrand mentioned in that article? Your the only 1 labeling her a blue dog & warmongerer |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 10:09 AM |
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If she keeps repeating it, maybe it'll magically come true. |
Danger Mouse |
Jan-24-09 10:40 AM |
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Gillibrand labeled HERSELF a Blue Dog |
FarceOfNature |
Jan-24-09 02:05 PM |
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I'm not going to throw her over the fence |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 02:18 PM |
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It's not necessary that the Speaker like every single member of the House. In fact, |
indie_ana_500 |
Jan-24-09 09:37 AM |
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If Nancy doesn't like her, thats another plus in my book....and I'm with you both on the bailout |
Lucinda |
Jan-24-09 11:04 AM |
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thank you |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 12:51 PM |
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If Queen Nancy doesn't like her then I'm starting to like Gillibrand. |
Beacool |
Jan-24-09 12:07 PM |
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Dam right! |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 12:56 PM |
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Who did Nancy want? |
Beacool |
Jan-25-09 12:46 AM |
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Time will tell. The media loves to annoint "stars" for no reason at all. |
Phx_Dem |
Jan-24-09 10:33 AM |
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She's a politician, not a star. She has power over your life. |
mmonk |
Jan-24-09 10:37 AM |
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I think she has a real future in politics if she does well in the Senate. |
Danger Mouse |
Jan-24-09 10:41 AM |
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Gillibrand SUCKS |
FarceOfNature |
Jan-24-09 10:48 AM |
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I feel exactly the same way about Nancy Pelosi |
slackmaster |
Jan-24-09 11:37 AM |
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Does she represent your particular area of NY? |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 01:01 PM |
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Her whole pedigree as a lawyer was to protect corporate interests |
FarceOfNature |
Jan-24-09 01:26 PM |
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She didn't run against Sweeney this time. She beat Treadwell |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 01:31 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jan-24-09 01:42 PM |
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You're not allowed to make things up to fit your argument. |
TheWraith |
Jan-25-09 11:10 AM |
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Much more liberal People? Like who? |
Raine1967 |
Jan-25-09 11:25 AM |
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Oh But, But |
NashVegas |
Jan-24-09 01:09 PM |
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... |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Jan-24-09 01:30 PM |
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Plucked out of obscurity, her blue dogginess is just beginning to come to light. |
AtomicKitten |
Jan-24-09 01:09 PM |
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how is her "blue dogginess" just coming to light? |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 01:12 PM |
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She is a relative unknown to the body politic .... until now. n/t |
AtomicKitten |
Jan-24-09 01:15 PM |
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that's "blue dogginess?" |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 01:18 PM |
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no, it's unknownness |
AtomicKitten |
Jan-24-09 01:51 PM |
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so when are you going to define how her "blue dogginesss" is showing? |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 02:00 PM |
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She IS a Blue Dog. |
FarceOfNature |
Jan-24-09 02:03 PM |
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then I'll ask again ... how is it just coming to light? |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 02:04 PM |
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I already answered you. She was relatively unknown. |
FarceOfNature |
Jan-24-09 02:08 PM |
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umm.. so? Blue Dogs get elected alot. |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 02:21 PM |
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huh? |
FarceOfNature |
Jan-24-09 02:22 PM |
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Gillibrand is far to the left of Clinton. |
TheWraith |
Jan-25-09 11:15 AM |
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There is nothing to indicate that she is a "turd in the punch bowl" |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 01:19 PM |
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those negatives resonate with some |
AtomicKitten |
Jan-24-09 01:49 PM |
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I agree she has what I might call a couple negatives, but |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 02:00 PM |
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Her dad was a Republican powerbroker/lobbyist and she supports the extension of Bush Tax cuts... |
ClarkUSA |
Jan-24-09 01:09 PM |
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He is a lobbyist and a registered Democrat |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 01:14 PM |
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LOL - that was written by one of their family mbrs, check the name. |
Justitia |
Jan-24-09 01:21 PM |
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so you're saying the family member fabricated the NY Voter file??? |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 01:23 PM |
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It's a recent conversion so as not to show up his daughter. The man worked loyally for Al D'Amato. |
ClarkUSA |
Jan-24-09 01:32 PM |
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um, so... |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 01:54 PM |
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huh? WTF are you talking about? |
Justitia |
Jan-24-09 01:33 PM |
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the information from the link is from the NY voter file |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 01:52 PM |
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What's that got to do with people trying to make her seem less conservative than she really is? |
Justitia |
Jan-24-09 01:58 PM |
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Given the two usual suspects on this thread, I'm less than surprised. |
FarceOfNature |
Jan-24-09 02:00 PM |
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Post #46 had information from the NY voter file showing her father to be a Democrat... you tried... |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 02:03 PM |
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Again, what does that have to do w/people trying to make her look less conservative than she is? |
Justitia |
Jan-24-09 02:04 PM |
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again, how does your mistaken claim her relative wrote that make the NY voter file false? |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 02:06 PM |
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who said the voter file was false? I only saw that in YOUR posts. Are you confusing me w/someone? |
Justitia |
Jan-24-09 02:07 PM |
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in post #46, a link with information from the NY voter file was presented... |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 02:19 PM |
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Who ever said anything about voter files? I sure didn't - those are YOUR posts. |
Justitia |
Jan-24-09 02:24 PM |
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you were discussing it with mtnsnake... summary of posts .. |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 02:52 PM |
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I see you have a lot invested in this, but kindly leave me out of your "voter files conspiracies" |
Justitia |
Jan-24-09 02:54 PM |
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it's right here in this subthread. You discredited the NY voter file |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 02:59 PM |
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Nope, the only one posting about "voter files" is YOU. I think there is a forum for that stuff. |
Justitia |
Jan-24-09 03:02 PM |
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if I'm the only one, then why did mtnsnake post it up thread, and why did you deny it in reply? |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 03:04 PM |
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Uh, that poster & I were discussing an author, not any "conspiracy theories". |
Justitia |
Jan-24-09 03:08 PM |
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and that "author" drew his information from the NY voter file, which you discredited... |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 03:10 PM |
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Nope, I'll go slow....I never mentioned any "voter file conspiracy", that's your thing. |
Justitia |
Jan-24-09 03:12 PM |
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you discredited the information in the NY voter file based on who you THOUGHT wrote it. |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 03:15 PM |
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It's probably not a good idea to play with conspiracy nuts on the internet, ciao. |
Justitia |
Jan-24-09 03:18 PM |
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then why did you imply a relative of hers wrote the NY voter file? |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 03:20 PM |
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She said it was a mistake in an earlier post |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 04:46 PM |
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Jerry Skurnik is one of her family members? Not that it matters, but what makes you say that? |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 01:24 PM |
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Ahhh, so I did - reading too fast, my mistake. -eom |
Justitia |
Jan-24-09 01:29 PM |
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No problem. It's easy to do. |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 01:39 PM |
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does it surprise you the typical "progressive" knee-jerkers are firing blanks... again? |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 01:21 PM |
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No, it never surprises me when the faux progressives here fire blanks |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 01:25 PM |
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and it never surprises me to see DINO apologists talking shit about actual Democrats |
FarceOfNature |
Jan-24-09 01:30 PM |
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Gillibrand is a Democrat. You ought to show some appreciation for what she accomplished |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 01:34 PM |
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There used to be a D after Lieberman's name, too |
FarceOfNature |
Jan-24-09 01:40 PM |
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Oh, so in addition to getting it all wrong about Gillibrand, you also own New York State |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 01:43 PM |
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I haven't typed a single incorrect thing about her. |
FarceOfNature |
Jan-24-09 01:48 PM |
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Yes, your highness! |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 02:04 PM |
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Well, at least your're calling me by my proper title |
FarceOfNature |
Jan-24-09 02:09 PM |
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!!! |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 02:22 PM |
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latter-day Wallacites - actual Democrats? LOL! |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 01:55 PM |
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If you watched MSNBC and CNN yesterday, you'd know what I know. Check the transcripts. |
ClarkUSA |
Jan-24-09 01:27 PM |
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You mean because one man's crusade against her on MSNBC yesterday? |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 01:37 PM |
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No. Norah O'Donnell also spoke about it as well as Wolf Blitzer on CNN |
ClarkUSA |
Jan-24-09 01:44 PM |
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Okay, thanks for the info. The only one I had heard was Mitchell |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 01:45 PM |
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OMG YOU FUCKED UP!!11111111!!!!!!1 |
FarceOfNature |
Jan-24-09 01:53 PM |
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"xenophobic war monger trophy hunting Albany establishment Blue Dog" |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 02:23 PM |
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I try. I DID live in Albany for almost 10 years ya know. |
FarceOfNature |
Jan-24-09 02:24 PM |
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Off topic |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 02:32 PM |
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RE: too many pubs... |
FarceOfNature |
Jan-24-09 02:54 PM |
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Thanks |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 02:56 PM |
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The West has nothing on NY mountains |
FarceOfNature |
Jan-24-09 03:03 PM |
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Same here |
mtnsnake |
Jan-24-09 03:05 PM |
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Anytime, mtnsnake. |
ClarkUSA |
Jan-24-09 02:02 PM |
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her mother and grandmother were Democratic activists |
wyldwolf |
Jan-24-09 01:19 PM |
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No news story I've heard mentioned anything like that. |
ClarkUSA |
Jan-24-09 01:28 PM |
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Google Polly Noonan |
Lavender Brown |
Jan-24-09 01:48 PM |
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That's her grandmother. Is she still alive? |
ClarkUSA |
Jan-24-09 02:13 PM |
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Her mother is also named Polly Noonan... she is alive and I think still practices law in Albany. |
Lavender Brown |
Jan-24-09 04:41 PM |
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Great article. THanks for posting. Loved this part: |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-25-09 01:21 AM |
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She "has it all" except good political positions. |
Political Heretic |
Jan-25-09 01:55 AM |
#131 |