Pavulon
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Sat Jan-24-09 11:25 AM
Response to Reply #45 |
| 50. Look at FOIA info from the last decade or so. |
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we kill people we want dead. How complicated is this? What explanation covers this> Taliban guys flee to pakistan, we watch them with KH11 and other imagery systems. We get tips. When they end up somewhere we can blow them up we do.
End of story.
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| -I want Obama to explain the US killing people in Pakistan |
bos1 |
Jan-24-09 04:08 AM |
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He's explained it repeatedly |
cali |
Jan-24-09 04:34 AM |
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Please link to his explanations, thx n/t |
bos1 |
Jan-24-09 05:09 AM |
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Did you follow the campaign? |
MadBadger |
Jan-24-09 05:11 AM |
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He's president now and should re-introduce the policy to national debate |
bos1 |
Jan-24-09 10:21 AM |
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Its not a pre-emptive strike if they attacked you first. |
MadBadger |
Jan-24-09 11:06 AM |
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I'm not convinced these 'targets' actually 'attacked us first' |
bigtree |
Jan-25-09 11:41 AM |
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You're not convinced? |
11 Bravo |
Jan-25-09 11:55 AM |
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It's really not clear who ordered these strikes. You can only provide the military report |
bigtree |
Jan-25-09 12:28 PM |
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I'm sorry, but you're just as capable as I am, I presume, of doing |
cali |
Jan-24-09 05:16 AM |
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White House refuses to comment on strikes |
bos1 |
Jan-24-09 10:50 AM |
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Ah, it's only the violation of a sovereign nation; how Cheneyan to not comment... |
PurityOfEssence |
Jan-24-09 08:32 PM |
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darn man give him some time! |
democracy1st |
Jan-24-09 06:10 AM |
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He said this before he became the nominee: |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jan-24-09 10:52 AM |
#34 |
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thank you for the link. |
bos1 |
Jan-24-09 11:25 AM |
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NO, he said he'd do it if Pakistan couldn't or wouldn't |
PurityOfEssence |
Jan-24-09 08:28 PM |
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So he's okay with killing children in order to hopefully kill a few Mosleem bad guys? |
Balbus |
Jan-25-09 12:40 PM |
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The Who and the Why are pretty self-explanatory. |
MadBadger |
Jan-24-09 04:41 AM |
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You thought that you would be enjoying world peace |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-24-09 04:45 AM |
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thanks for the sneer and the childishness. n/t |
bos1 |
Jan-24-09 05:10 AM |
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Keep your pony, Frenchie. I'll settle for less corpses. |
rug |
Jan-24-09 05:37 AM |
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There is no good explanation for violating sovereignty and continuing preemptive killing. |
rug |
Jan-24-09 05:36 AM |
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I'm not sure that he's violating sovereignity |
cali |
Jan-24-09 05:42 AM |
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Pakistan has expressed great concern over US drone attacks |
tekisui |
Jan-24-09 10:39 AM |
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And we know that governments never say one thing publicly |
hack89 |
Jan-24-09 01:52 PM |
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That's my view too. And if Obama is going to engage in this, |
bos1 |
Jan-24-09 10:18 AM |
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The President has a good explanation: |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jan-24-09 10:55 AM |
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How exactly is this preemptive killing? |
MadBadger |
Jan-24-09 11:09 AM |
#38 |
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How is it not? |
bos1 |
Jan-24-09 11:20 AM |
#44 |
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Are you kidding me? We've been fighting AQ and the Taliban for 7 years now. |
MadBadger |
Jan-24-09 11:22 AM |
#46 |
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calm down. As I said, does the US have the right to bomb any country where supposed AQ are? |
bos1 |
Jan-24-09 11:28 AM |
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You want NSA signal intercepts? |
Pavulon |
Jan-24-09 11:34 AM |
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7 years of illegal war. |
Duende azul |
Jan-24-09 06:08 PM |
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Unless you're wearing a tin foil hat, you know what im talking about |
MadBadger |
Jan-24-09 07:12 PM |
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You're just another warmonger, aren't you? How's your Halliburton stock doing? |
bos1 |
Jan-25-09 11:38 AM |
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I'll wait till you calm down and stop the ridiculous personal attacks. |
MadBadger |
Jan-25-09 12:49 PM |
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you mean like "Because you're a fucking intelligent expert" kind of personal attacks? |
bos1 |
Jan-25-09 01:08 PM |
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Huffington Post Missile Strikes On Pakistan Since Obama Presidency Report |
1776Forever |
Jan-24-09 05:43 AM |
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This is Obama's policy. Period. He made it perfectly clear |
cali |
Jan-24-09 05:48 AM |
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I agree it is "his" policy but I do think the cabinet he chose goes right along with it. |
1776Forever |
Jan-24-09 05:57 AM |
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I suppose it is true that neither his Secretary of State nor his Secretary of Defense |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-24-09 10:42 AM |
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He said he'd do it if Pakistan couldn't or wouldn't |
PurityOfEssence |
Jan-24-09 08:05 PM |
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What Absolute BULLCRAP !! You've linked to the SAME one story six times, using a different |
K Gardner |
Jan-24-09 05:54 AM |
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no idea what you are talking about |
bos1 |
Jan-24-09 10:15 AM |
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Maybe al-queda shouldn't bring their war home to family and friends? |
Life Long Dem |
Jan-24-09 05:58 AM |
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He said he'd do it and he did it. No explanation needed . eom |
kstewart33 |
Jan-24-09 08:07 AM |
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When a country has poor control over affairs in its own borders, this is legitimate. |
Zynx |
Jan-24-09 08:13 AM |
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Incapable ally is putting it mildly. |
MilesColtrane |
Jan-25-09 09:23 AM |
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clearly not because he views the world as a video game where he kills people at will |
dmordue |
Jan-24-09 08:13 AM |
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Obama said repeatedly during the campaign that he would strike AQ or Taliban targets |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-24-09 10:21 AM |
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yes you are right but now he has done it and it's up for grabs |
bos1 |
Jan-24-09 10:43 AM |
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I don't understand the word "preemptive" there. |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-24-09 10:48 AM |
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This isn't in Afghanistan and the question is |
bos1 |
Jan-24-09 11:13 AM |
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Iraq never attacked us, but Al-Qaeda sure did. |
MadBadger |
Jan-24-09 11:15 AM |
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That doesn't give the US the right to bomb any country where a supposed AQ person is. |
bos1 |
Jan-24-09 11:16 AM |
#41 |
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If we have actionable intelligence of a target, and Pakistan wont do anything,..go for it. |
MadBadger |
Jan-24-09 11:19 AM |
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"actionable intelligence of a target" = vague words for killing unknown people. |
bos1 |
Jan-24-09 11:22 AM |
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Because you're a fucking intelligent expert.. |
MadBadger |
Jan-24-09 11:23 AM |
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Time for you to take your chill pills. Bye |
bos1 |
Jan-24-09 11:29 AM |
#53 |
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Look at FOIA info from the last decade or so. |
Pavulon |
Jan-24-09 11:25 AM |
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Right has nothing to do with it. US policy for decades |
Pavulon |
Jan-24-09 11:22 AM |
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It is indeed the fight in Afghanistan. Wars involving non-governmental entities |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-24-09 01:04 PM |
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Because Bush started all of it? |
treestar |
Jan-24-09 10:22 AM |
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this I don't agree with. Like the trials in Guito or torture, technically he could just stop it |
bos1 |
Jan-24-09 10:35 AM |
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He could, but he believes that Afghanistan is critical, and has since 2001. nt |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-24-09 10:43 AM |
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gitmo won't be closed for a year - the order just started it |
treestar |
Jan-24-09 10:48 AM |
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Because it is irresponsbile to immediately stop operations in Iraq? |
MadBadger |
Jan-24-09 11:17 AM |
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Yes. So it would on the Afghan war. Which is what the OP |
treestar |
Jan-24-09 12:32 PM |
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wrong, I did not say to immediately end the Afghan. war. I said why are we killing in Pakistan |
bos1 |
Jan-24-09 12:42 PM |
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That's pretty much part of the Afghan war. Al Qaeda retreated |
treestar |
Jan-24-09 01:01 PM |
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Sounds like ENDLESS WAR to me. nt |
TheGoldenRule |
Jan-24-09 10:36 AM |
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Here you go |
underpants |
Jan-24-09 10:54 AM |
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Limbaugh's spiel: "Obama is going to own this economy & wars. Within 7 months he will be to blame." |
AnotherMother4Peace |
Jan-24-09 11:27 AM |
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to hell with Limbaugh |
bos1 |
Jan-24-09 11:33 AM |
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Obama has been talking about doing this since the very beginning of his campaign.. |
DCBob |
Jan-24-09 11:31 AM |
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It was wrong when Bush did it. |
bvar22 |
Jan-24-09 12:22 PM |
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That is exactly the size of it. |
Dreamer Tatum |
Jan-24-09 04:11 PM |
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Now, I did not see mention of innocent people in the story |
dbmk |
Jan-24-09 04:37 PM |
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It wasnt wrong when Bush did it and it isnt wrong when Obama does it |
deadlyaj |
Jan-24-09 08:37 PM |
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I question the idea that it is necessarily wrong. |
Zynx |
Jan-25-09 11:49 AM |
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they are training terrorists in pakistan. |
samsingh |
Jan-24-09 03:45 PM |
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I agree, K&R |
LittleBlue |
Jan-24-09 04:14 PM |
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In this case because they are shooting at you. |
dbmk |
Jan-24-09 04:38 PM |
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They are shooting at you because you have no business being there waging war. |
Duende azul |
Jan-24-09 05:53 PM |
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Obama thinks that "the ends justify the means". |
cbc5g |
Jan-24-09 04:17 PM |
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The area they are attacking is only Pakistan by virtue of a line on a map. |
dbmk |
Jan-24-09 04:29 PM |
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North and South Waziristan are ungoverned provinces along the Afghan border |
zulchzulu |
Jan-24-09 04:46 PM |
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in the words of bush... Kill the bastards, kill the bastards, kill the bastards |
deadlyaj |
Jan-24-09 08:34 PM |
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We were attacked by a handful of people .... |
bvar22 |
Jan-25-09 01:54 PM |
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THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELPFUL REPLIES AND THE HEALTHY DEBATE |
bos1 |
Jan-25-09 04:19 AM |
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Because he doesn't do cowering..... |
Clio the Leo |
Jan-25-09 08:12 AM |
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Well in the end, it's just another part of the mess that Obama inherited. nt |
bos1 |
Jan-25-09 11:18 AM |
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He explained it all through the election; this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. n/t |
AtomicKitten |
Jan-25-09 11:20 AM |
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He's only been in office a few days |
sampsonblk |
Jan-25-09 11:46 AM |
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that's a reasonable view. thanks. nt |
bos1 |
Jan-25-09 12:03 PM |
#89 |
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