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Sun Jan-18-09 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #53 |
| 61. How ironic! Starting from my cryptic statement, you apparently fabricate a quote from me |
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I think I have made my case
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| -Venezuela's Chavez says Obama has "stench" of Bush |
cali |
Jan-18-09 03:21 AM |
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That's because he has to create an enemy to rule with an iron fist. |
LoZoccolo |
Jan-18-09 03:29 AM |
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He refused to renew their licence after they |
Steepler0t |
Jan-18-09 03:37 AM |
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Nope, yer thinking of the wrong thing. |
LoZoccolo |
Jan-18-09 03:40 AM |
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The guy who was to take power |
Steepler0t |
Jan-18-09 03:42 AM |
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Nope. |
LoZoccolo |
Jan-18-09 03:44 AM |
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I recommend the movie |
Steepler0t |
Jan-18-09 03:47 AM |
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I've seen that part, and the part where he uses the phrase "up the spout". |
LoZoccolo |
Jan-18-09 03:49 AM |
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That is not the part |
Steepler0t |
Jan-18-09 04:08 AM |
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I think you have it dead on. We will see. I suspect, however, more of the same. |
IsItJustMe |
Jan-18-09 10:26 AM |
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LoZoccalo, it is well documented that RCTV hosted meetings of the coup plotters, |
Peace Patriot |
Jan-22-09 05:00 PM |
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I like Obama a great deal, |
Malidictus Maximus |
Jan-18-09 11:57 AM |
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Correct. Chavez may be a leftist, but he is also an authoritarian asshole. |
anonymous171 |
Jan-18-09 11:46 PM |
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i agree |
mrs_p |
Jan-19-09 12:02 AM |
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"Authoritarian asshole"? Please defend. |
Peace Patriot |
Jan-22-09 05:13 PM |
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Well, |
Steepler0t |
Jan-18-09 03:31 AM |
#2 |
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Obama is for redrafting NAFTA |
cali |
Jan-18-09 04:50 AM |
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I like Chavez better than I do Obama |
Larkspur |
Jan-18-09 07:15 AM |
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there's no accounting for taste |
cali |
Jan-18-09 07:25 AM |
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Or sanity |
NoPasaran |
Jan-18-09 11:14 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-18-09 02:47 PM |
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What a load. |
Elrond Hubbard |
Jan-18-09 03:58 PM |
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Why are you here? |
RichGirl |
Jan-18-09 07:33 AM |
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never underestimate how much some bitter folks like |
cali |
Jan-18-09 07:46 AM |
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What am I bitter about? |
Larkspur |
Jan-18-09 02:44 PM |
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We have some Stalinists and Trotskyists here. n/t |
geek tragedy |
Jan-18-09 10:03 AM |
#36 |
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pumskies? |
dionysus |
Jan-18-09 01:04 PM |
#60 |
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The only Democratic leader I'd go to Hell and back for is |
Larkspur |
Jan-18-09 02:55 PM |
#77 |
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Schweitzer is also a big supporter of Chavez |
grantcart |
Jan-18-09 03:59 PM |
#92 |
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Actually he refers to Chavez as one of his Petro-dictators |
Larkspur |
Jan-18-09 05:07 PM |
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The problem is that America has to change its policy about Latin America |
Cleita |
Jan-18-09 04:25 PM |
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Agree with you. |
Larkspur |
Jan-18-09 05:08 PM |
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Brian Schweitzer hates your hero Hugo. |
geek tragedy |
Jan-18-09 05:37 PM |
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I said in another post that Schweitzer called Chavez a Petro-dictator |
Larkspur |
Jan-19-09 11:41 PM |
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socialist =/= Stalinist |
RadicalTexan |
Jan-19-09 07:26 PM |
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Ummm. No. |
clear eye |
Jan-25-09 02:06 PM |
#167 |
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Why are you here? |
Larkspur |
Jan-18-09 02:36 PM |
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It's all settled then... all you need to do is... |
Butch350 |
Jan-22-09 04:44 PM |
#158 |
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Well, I think we can be carried away on the moment, and appreciative of Obama |
Peace Patriot |
Jan-22-09 06:03 PM |
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Agree, but I am open to see what Obama will do. He could still be a great leader |
harun |
Jan-18-09 07:55 AM |
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Chavez also wants to be president forever and block the press |
Jennicut |
Jan-18-09 09:28 AM |
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Some folks here favor authoritarianism as long as it is used to establish a |
Katzenkavalier |
Jan-18-09 09:47 AM |
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really sad, but nothing new for the American left |
cali |
Jan-18-09 09:49 AM |
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That's changing with Obama. |
Radical Activist |
Jan-18-09 11:50 AM |
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That's it |
WesDem |
Jan-18-09 02:58 PM |
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That was very well stated ... |
RoyGBiv |
Jan-18-09 04:35 PM |
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Huh? |
Mika |
Jan-19-09 02:08 AM |
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For example |
Radical Activist |
Jan-19-09 01:03 PM |
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The grass roots approach you describe sounds like the Cuban system. |
Mika |
Jan-19-09 07:20 PM |
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Very interesting parallel to make. |
Radical Activist |
Jan-21-09 11:54 AM |
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Get your facts correct before you spout lies |
Larkspur |
Jan-18-09 02:38 PM |
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Details details. |
Mika |
Jan-19-09 02:13 AM |
#131 |
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That's some bad taste right there. |
Katzenkavalier |
Jan-18-09 09:45 AM |
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Hugo Chavez is a hero to most of his people |
Larkspur |
Jan-18-09 02:40 PM |
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What planet are you on? |
Radical Activist |
Jan-18-09 05:27 PM |
#115 |
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I'm the secretary of my town's Democratic Town Committee |
Larkspur |
Jan-19-09 11:42 PM |
#140 |
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WHAT? Is this a joke? |
BrentTaylor |
Jan-18-09 09:58 AM |
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So, you like Communist Strongmen moreso than mainstream |
geek tragedy |
Jan-18-09 10:03 AM |
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Hugo Chavez was democratically elected twice by his people |
Larkspur |
Jan-18-09 02:43 PM |
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Chavez now hates Barack Obama. |
geek tragedy |
Jan-18-09 05:33 PM |
#117 |
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Psssst....it's not the 50's anymore. |
Forkboy |
Jan-18-09 03:38 PM |
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Not the 1920's either, Comrade. n/t |
geek tragedy |
Jan-18-09 05:32 PM |
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You're so wrong about me you do us both a disservice. |
Forkboy |
Jan-18-09 09:05 PM |
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Obama voted against CAFTA and has always supported FAIR trade. |
Radical Activist |
Jan-18-09 11:43 AM |
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Obama voted for the Peru free trade Act and Obama still says he supports free trade |
Larkspur |
Jan-18-09 02:41 PM |
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He mentions his support for fair trade often |
Radical Activist |
Jan-18-09 03:33 PM |
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I based my opinions on Obama's free trade policies from what I heard coming out of his mouth |
Larkspur |
Jan-18-09 05:10 PM |
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I just provided a link and another reference that proves your claim wrong. |
Radical Activist |
Jan-18-09 05:15 PM |
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Because I heard it on TV, not read it in an article |
Larkspur |
Jan-19-09 11:35 PM |
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What a class act. |
camera__obscura |
Jan-18-09 07:28 AM |
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Lula apoya a Chávez en su intención de ser candidato presidencial en 2012 |
struggle4progress |
Jan-18-09 08:06 AM |
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Uh, do you have this in the original Spanish? I'm not finding it |
struggle4progress |
Jan-18-09 08:12 AM |
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kick for your question n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-18-09 08:52 AM |
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No. Why should I? |
cali |
Jan-18-09 08:53 AM |
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Hmmm. That pretty much tells me what I needed to know. |
struggle4progress |
Jan-18-09 09:13 AM |
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whatever. it's a reuter's story |
cali |
Jan-18-09 09:16 AM |
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It's just seems odd that only a translation statement of the statement is available, |
struggle4progress |
Jan-18-09 12:55 PM |
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that someone's opinoin isn't valid if they don't speak spanish? |
Radical Activist |
Jan-18-09 11:52 AM |
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How ironic! Starting from my cryptic statement, you apparently fabricate a quote from me |
struggle4progress |
Jan-18-09 01:18 PM |
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If you were worried about being misinterpreted |
Radical Activist |
Jan-18-09 02:11 PM |
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This sidebar is going nowhere, so instead of continuing it, I'll direct you to #90 |
struggle4progress |
Jan-18-09 04:05 PM |
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Here's an article from the Venezuelan paper "El Universal" |
camera__obscura |
Jan-18-09 09:16 AM |
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Thanks. It does not appear to refer to any "stench." It does, however, |
struggle4progress |
Jan-18-09 01:25 PM |
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Searching the English language page of El Universal is producing some odd results: |
struggle4progress |
Jan-18-09 03:57 PM |
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Update |
struggle4progress |
Jan-19-09 02:31 AM |
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Chavez says Obama "throwing stones" at Venezuela |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-18-09 09:10 AM |
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Chavez: “Obama Is Confusing Me with Bush” |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-18-09 09:14 AM |
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So, now being anti-Chavez is being anti-Venezuela. |
geek tragedy |
Jan-18-09 10:05 AM |
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Did Venezuela's Opposition Meet with US Officials in Puerto Rico? |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-18-09 09:20 AM |
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I'm wondering what Chavez gets out of saying this? What's his agenda? |
Waiting For Everyman |
Jan-18-09 09:27 AM |
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I don't think there's much doubt that Chavez likes media attention |
cali |
Jan-18-09 09:32 AM |
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Seems pretty clear to me. Chavez does not like what Obama has said about him. Honestly, would you? |
IsItJustMe |
Jan-18-09 11:04 AM |
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It's not an olive branch, it's a shitbomb. |
oktoberain |
Jan-18-09 11:13 AM |
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Name calling and accusations only place place people further in their own corners and never helps to |
IsItJustMe |
Jan-18-09 11:22 AM |
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Well then we disagree vehemently. |
oktoberain |
Jan-18-09 02:13 PM |
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And what would Chavez have to do to prove himself? Shoot himself in the head and replace himself |
Evoman |
Jan-19-09 11:47 PM |
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That's impression I got from it too. |
Waiting For Everyman |
Jan-18-09 12:01 PM |
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bwahahaha. |
cali |
Jan-18-09 11:26 AM |
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Chavez says there is still time to salvage the situation. That to me is an olive branch. You may |
IsItJustMe |
Jan-18-09 11:31 AM |
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uh, saying publicly that Obama has the same stench as bush is a grave insult |
cali |
Jan-18-09 11:41 AM |
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Chicken or the egg. Obama said this and Chavez said that. This type of dialog can go on forever |
IsItJustMe |
Jan-18-09 11:49 AM |
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Democratic Presidents don't have a history |
Radical Activist |
Jan-18-09 11:45 AM |
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That was the Cold War, though |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-18-09 02:24 PM |
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He's done something alright. |
Radical Activist |
Jan-18-09 02:31 PM |
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Saudi Arabia also sells oil to people we don't like |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-18-09 02:52 PM |
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manifest destiny |
Radical Activist |
Jan-18-09 03:25 PM |
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Does that mean we should kick around Latin America all we want? |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-18-09 03:41 PM |
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No, I'm not attempting to justify it. |
Radical Activist |
Jan-18-09 03:47 PM |
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Less hostile is fine by me |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-18-09 04:05 PM |
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I have more hope for Evo Morales. |
Radical Activist |
Jan-18-09 04:09 PM |
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His agenda is hegemony over the Southern Hemisphere |
theboss |
Jan-22-09 05:02 PM |
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Poor Hugo. With Bush gone, sympathy for his authoritarian |
geek tragedy |
Jan-18-09 10:02 AM |
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Not on DU apparently. nt |
anonymous171 |
Jan-18-09 11:49 PM |
#126 |
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Every dictator needs both an internal and an external enemy. |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-18-09 11:08 AM |
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Chavez isn't a dictator |
harun |
Jan-18-09 11:52 AM |
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ok, every democratically elected thug trying to change his country's constitution to remain in power |
wyldwolf |
Jan-18-09 12:04 PM |
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If Chavez was really a thug, he's use the military to take absolute power |
Larkspur |
Jan-18-09 02:57 PM |
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Give him time |
Teaser |
Jan-18-09 04:24 PM |
#101 |
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Keep basing your world view on what CNN tells you, see how that works out for you. |
harun |
Jan-18-09 04:12 PM |
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keep basing your world view on what... hmmm... where DO you get your info? |
wyldwolf |
Jan-18-09 04:39 PM |
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Well, I disagree, there just ain't no |
zidzi |
Jan-18-09 11:12 AM |
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K&R |
IsItJustMe |
Jan-18-09 11:51 AM |
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Chavez has the stench of a tyrannical demogogue. n/t |
Odin2005 |
Jan-18-09 12:57 PM |
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Hugo has the stench of someone who misses $100/bbl. oil |
BeyondGeography |
Jan-18-09 02:05 PM |
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stay classy, Chavez |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Jan-18-09 02:39 PM |
#70 |
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Hugo ~ n/t |
bridgit |
Jan-18-09 03:15 PM |
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what an ass |
tigereye |
Jan-18-09 03:16 PM |
#81 |
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I'm happy to say I've never been that impressed by Chavez. He can choke on it. |
Veganistan |
Jan-18-09 03:35 PM |
#84 |
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Some of the propaganda in this thread from both sides would make Chavez and Obama both blush. |
Forkboy |
Jan-18-09 03:43 PM |
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sure, but what's really interesting is Chavez |
cali |
Jan-18-09 03:45 PM |
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See #90: Venezuela media was reporting that Obama had accused Chavez of |
struggle4progress |
Jan-18-09 04:00 PM |
#93 |
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I also looked for recent comments from Obama in regards to |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-18-09 07:16 PM |
#120 |
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Update |
struggle4progress |
Jan-19-09 02:31 AM |
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Makes sense on numerous levels. |
Forkboy |
Jan-18-09 04:16 PM |
#99 |
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I don't think Chavez is a dictator. |
Elrond Hubbard |
Jan-18-09 04:19 PM |
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LOL....I don't think he says much of anything without a purpose. |
Forkboy |
Jan-18-09 04:36 PM |
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Nice post, Fidel! |
MPK |
Jan-18-09 04:49 PM |
#108 |
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I think HC got some intelligence that some faction in our government |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-19-09 11:46 PM |
#141 |
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I've never liked Chavez all that much. This is just more reason not to like him. |
Elrond Hubbard |
Jan-18-09 04:04 PM |
#94 |
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Well, he has a point about "the empire" - let's hope Obama survives it. |
polichick |
Jan-18-09 04:28 PM |
#103 |
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Good fricking day to you, too Chavez.. |
mariawr |
Jan-18-09 04:31 PM |
#104 |
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Hey, Chávez, STFU, we don't care about you and your new babana Republic |
Roberto1223 |
Jan-18-09 04:50 PM |
#109 |
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America is more an banana republic than Venezuela |
Larkspur |
Jan-18-09 05:12 PM |
#113 |
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However, we still have the right to change Presidents peacefully, not like |
Roberto1223 |
Jan-18-09 05:43 PM |
#119 |
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The Venezuela of 1989, when the President Carlos Andres Perez had his forces fire into crowds |
Judi Lynn |
Jan-18-09 07:42 PM |
#121 |
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Chavez is not using guns to change the Constitution |
Larkspur |
Jan-19-09 11:34 PM |
#137 |
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WTF are you talking about |
Every Man A King |
Jan-20-09 10:53 AM |
#145 |
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I respect what Chavez has done for his country but this is messed up how does he expect things to> |
cooolandrew |
Jan-18-09 11:45 PM |
#123 |
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I respect what Chavez has done for his country but this is messed up how does he expect things to> |
cooolandrew |
Jan-18-09 11:45 PM |
#124 |
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i'm sorry, but i do not |
mrs_p |
Jan-19-09 12:01 AM |
#127 |
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Chavez speaks the truth. n/t |
Lilith Velkor |
Jan-19-09 01:13 AM |
#129 |
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Psh, I called this seven months ago. |
tritsofme |
Jan-20-09 12:09 AM |
#143 |
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That's how you define "calling" something? |
bitchkitty |
Jan-20-09 10:45 AM |
#144 |
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Good call, what do you think is behind Chavez's rhetoric? Obama isn't the "normal" I don't see the.. |
uponit7771 |
Jan-21-09 01:14 PM |
#148 |
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Well played, my friend |
theboss |
Jan-22-09 05:04 PM |
#162 |
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God He's Such A Piece Of Shit. Fuck That Pig Chavez. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jan-21-09 12:08 PM |
#147 |
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This shouldn't surprise anyone |
rl6214 |
Jan-21-09 01:21 PM |
#149 |
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Blow it out your ass Hugo! |
ronnykmarshall |
Jan-21-09 01:42 PM |
#150 |
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Well, Chavez has the "stench" of a dictator. nt |
PM7nj |
Jan-21-09 01:48 PM |
#151 |
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There sure is a lot of misinformation in this thread about Chavez and Venezuela. |
Peace Patriot |
Jan-22-09 05:08 AM |
#152 |
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your posts are like nuggets of gold |
subsuelo |
Jan-22-09 03:48 PM |
#154 |
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Chavez is a dictator pretending to be a populist. |
specialed |
Jan-22-09 05:42 AM |
#153 |
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Welcome to DU, specialed! Please explain your prediction. |
Peace Patriot |
Jan-22-09 04:22 PM |
#156 |
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Fuck that pig. |
jefferson_dem |
Jan-22-09 04:01 PM |
#155 |
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Let's see how Venezuela does with oil prices where they are. |
Zynx |
Jan-22-09 04:24 PM |
#157 |
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And with that, everyone will finally agree with me about Chavez |
theboss |
Jan-22-09 05:01 PM |
#160 |
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If he thinks Obama has "stench" of Bush, he's obviously been sniffing too much... |
ALiberalSailor |
Jan-22-09 05:04 PM |
#163 |
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Chavez = Attention Whore. Pay him no mind. |
damonm |
Jan-22-09 05:17 PM |
#165 |
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