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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 08:07 AM
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58. So since Obama won the presidency and Kerry didn't, Kerry shouldn't have an opinion?
Perhaps there are those who would rather someone was holding Obama's feet to the fire instead of worshiping at his temple because he managed to become president.

By that logic, no one should have had an opinion of Bush either. After all, he'd done what none of us had managed to do.

I don't think Obama minds, really. He has said time and again he wants people's opinions, especially if they disagree. Hopefully he meant that.
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  -Why Aren't Democrats Supporting Obama? Gman  Jan-12-09 02:39 PM   #0 
  - LOL but it's not 'acrimonious' to call John Kerry a windbag?  leftstreet   Jan-12-09 02:41 PM   #1 
  - "windbag" hardly rises to the level of being called acrimony  Gman   Jan-12-09 02:44 PM   #4 
  - The Dems ARE supporting Obama. This guy is not. May be looking at whom he is  Mass   Jan-12-09 02:46 PM   #7 
  - Hint: Read DU  Gman   Jan-12-09 02:53 PM   #17 
     - I know what you are talking about. The problem is that the article you  Mass   Jan-12-09 02:54 PM   #18 
     - Senate Dems already got the package moved leftward - do you want it moved back  blm   Jan-12-09 03:02 PM   #24 
        - they are wrong if they are bloviating in the press.  mopinko   Jan-12-09 03:27 PM   #32 
           - BALONEY - they did it to set the perception Obama wanted - that he didn't expect rubberstamp senate  blm   Jan-12-09 03:36 PM   #33 
           - Doesn't matter people here  politicasista   Jan-12-09 04:36 PM   #39 
           - They weren't "bloviating"  karynnj   Jan-12-09 06:41 PM   #52 
              - Good post  politicasista   Jan-12-09 06:53 PM   #55 
  - Try reading the piece and COMPREHENDING what asshat writer is really about G.  blm   Jan-12-09 02:51 PM   #16 
  - Actually - Heinbrunn was speaking of the comments made on the stimulus package  karynnj   Jan-12-09 06:34 PM   #50 
  - John Kerry does not have the weight of the country on his shoulders.  pnwmom   Jan-12-09 03:00 PM   #23 
     - Obama's team altered the package correctly, and Obama is seen as a president who LISTENS and doesn't  blm   Jan-12-09 03:06 PM   #25 
     - Were you talking to me? What did I say? n/t  pnwmom   Jan-12-09 03:10 PM   #27 
     - Kerry is an ally of Obama's  karynnj   Jan-12-09 06:22 PM   #47 
        - I didn't accuse Kerry of saying that.  pnwmom   Jan-12-09 06:38 PM   #51 
           - Why do you think it hurts Obama to be seen as a president who will take correction from left when  blm   Jan-13-09 08:35 AM   #60 
  - RW hack from National INterest. Thanks for playing.  Mass   Jan-12-09 02:44 PM   #2 
  - Democrats cannot follow a leader and are awesome at shooting themselves in the foot.  PM7nj   Jan-12-09 02:44 PM   #3 
  - Constructive criticism is good...  TTUBatfan2008   Jan-12-09 02:45 PM   #5 
  - I agree. nt  PM7nj   Jan-12-09 02:49 PM   #11 
  - Not in this case - Kerry, Conrad, Wyden were all strong Obama allies  karynnj   Jan-12-09 06:25 PM   #48 
  - Did you and the OP even read the article. This is a RW guy who writes in a RW magazine.  Mass   Jan-12-09 02:45 PM   #6 
  - Actually, I didn't. Just making a general comment.  PM7nj   Jan-12-09 02:48 PM   #10 
  - Not blindly following is OK if you know as much or more than the leader  Gman   Jan-12-09 02:50 PM   #13 
     - Oh so if we don't know as much as Barack we should blindly follow.  navarth   Jan-12-09 02:59 PM   #22 
     - ummmm WUT  FarceOfNature   Jan-12-09 06:46 PM   #54 
  - K & R  HedHunter   Jan-12-09 02:47 PM   #8 
  - Pretty dense analysis in that piece. Obama set that debate exactly where he wanted it so Dems could  blm   Jan-12-09 02:47 PM   #9 
  - Agreed, Obama and senate dems are one step ahead  Uzybone   Jan-12-09 04:12 PM   #37 
  - We hold our leaders to a much higher standard than they do  marlakay   Jan-12-09 02:49 PM   #12 
  - I think it's essentially a question of cowardice and CYA  frazzled   Jan-12-09 02:50 PM   #14 
  - Horsepoo - Obama set the debate where he wanted it started so Dems could move it leftward. And they  blm   Jan-12-09 02:55 PM   #19 
     - Awwww ....  frazzled   Jan-12-09 03:21 PM   #30 
        - Right - Obama's M is to immediately give RW reason to label Dem senate as rubberstampers.  blm   Jan-12-09 03:41 PM   #35 
           - I have nothing against the constructive criticism  frazzled   Jan-12-09 05:10 PM   #44 
              - You have pathetically misread what went down. PS: Kerry is wellknown for listening to all sides  blm   Jan-12-09 06:44 PM   #53 
                 - "Patahetic," "idiots" ... the persuasive charm just oozes  frazzled   Jan-12-09 06:56 PM   #56 
  - Tsk, tsk, tsk. There is no acrimony here at DU towards Obama, only "constructive criticism".  elocs   Jan-12-09 02:51 PM   #15 
  - Kerry and Harkin are not winbags - and nothing either said is out of order  karynnj   Jan-12-09 02:55 PM   #20 
  - The whole thing was orchestrated...  TTUBatfan2008   Jan-12-09 02:59 PM   #21 
     - Exactly - it stopped the certain labeling of Senate as Obama's rubberstamp, too.  blm   Jan-12-09 03:09 PM   #26 
     - I'm very interested to see...  TTUBatfan2008   Jan-12-09 03:16 PM   #29 
        - Hard to believe the level of idiocy from those still howling - you think they'd have gotten it once  blm   Jan-12-09 03:43 PM   #36 
     - That's what it sounds like  politicasista   Jan-12-09 04:32 PM   #38 
        - There's been a lot of...  TTUBatfan2008   Jan-12-09 04:42 PM   #40 
           - Exactly  politicasista   Jan-12-09 04:45 PM   #42 
  - Our work simply started with an Obama presidency.  ReadTomPaine   Jan-12-09 03:15 PM   #28 
  - Good post  flying rabbit   Jan-12-09 04:42 PM   #41 
  - There is a damn good reason while Congress' approval ratings are a fraction  nomad1776   Jan-12-09 03:25 PM   #31 
  - i agree with you.  dionysus   Jan-12-09 03:40 PM   #34 
  - Support and rolling over are pretty different  TheKentuckian   Jan-12-09 04:46 PM   #43 
  - Leading democratic senators supported Roosevelt  Abq_Sarah   Jan-12-09 05:54 PM   #45 
  - All I have to say is:  bvar22   Jan-12-09 06:09 PM   #46 
  - we all are  Two Americas   Jan-12-09 06:31 PM   #49 
  - So...the Democrats should just be Yes People? I thought that's what Obama DIDN'T want?  IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge   Jan-13-09 07:53 AM   #57 
  - So since Obama won the presidency and Kerry didn't, Kerry shouldn't have an opinion?  LittleClarkie   Jan-13-09 08:07 AM   #58 
  - Depends on what democrats you're talking about  LynneSin   Jan-13-09 08:23 AM   #59 
  - Kerry and Harkin both  LWolf   Jan-13-09 09:24 AM   #61 
 

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