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Mon Jan-12-09 02:50 PM
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| 14. I think it's essentially a question of cowardice and CYA |
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It's the same reason Kerry voted for and supported the Iraq War Resolution: he was scared of being (politically) wrong.
With the economic stimulus package, they are all afraid it may not work, so they are all going on record--from Kerry to Krugman--so that they can say "I told you so" if it doesn't work as well as it should. It's cowardly oppositionism. I'm glad someone has taken them to task (via TPM) to say, "offer something constructive or shut up." Of course, their cover-your-assism may go so far as to prevent any stimulus package at all from being passed. Nice work.
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| -Why Aren't Democrats Supporting Obama? |
Gman |
Jan-12-09 02:39 PM |
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LOL but it's not 'acrimonious' to call John Kerry a windbag? |
leftstreet |
Jan-12-09 02:41 PM |
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"windbag" hardly rises to the level of being called acrimony |
Gman |
Jan-12-09 02:44 PM |
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The Dems ARE supporting Obama. This guy is not. May be looking at whom he is |
Mass |
Jan-12-09 02:46 PM |
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Hint: Read DU |
Gman |
Jan-12-09 02:53 PM |
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I know what you are talking about. The problem is that the article you |
Mass |
Jan-12-09 02:54 PM |
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Senate Dems already got the package moved leftward - do you want it moved back |
blm |
Jan-12-09 03:02 PM |
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they are wrong if they are bloviating in the press. |
mopinko |
Jan-12-09 03:27 PM |
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BALONEY - they did it to set the perception Obama wanted - that he didn't expect rubberstamp senate |
blm |
Jan-12-09 03:36 PM |
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Doesn't matter people here |
politicasista |
Jan-12-09 04:36 PM |
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They weren't "bloviating" |
karynnj |
Jan-12-09 06:41 PM |
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Good post |
politicasista |
Jan-12-09 06:53 PM |
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Try reading the piece and COMPREHENDING what asshat writer is really about G. |
blm |
Jan-12-09 02:51 PM |
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Actually - Heinbrunn was speaking of the comments made on the stimulus package |
karynnj |
Jan-12-09 06:34 PM |
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John Kerry does not have the weight of the country on his shoulders. |
pnwmom |
Jan-12-09 03:00 PM |
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Obama's team altered the package correctly, and Obama is seen as a president who LISTENS and doesn't |
blm |
Jan-12-09 03:06 PM |
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Were you talking to me? What did I say? n/t |
pnwmom |
Jan-12-09 03:10 PM |
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Kerry is an ally of Obama's |
karynnj |
Jan-12-09 06:22 PM |
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I didn't accuse Kerry of saying that. |
pnwmom |
Jan-12-09 06:38 PM |
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Why do you think it hurts Obama to be seen as a president who will take correction from left when |
blm |
Jan-13-09 08:35 AM |
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RW hack from National INterest. Thanks for playing. |
Mass |
Jan-12-09 02:44 PM |
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Democrats cannot follow a leader and are awesome at shooting themselves in the foot. |
PM7nj |
Jan-12-09 02:44 PM |
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Constructive criticism is good... |
TTUBatfan2008 |
Jan-12-09 02:45 PM |
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I agree. nt |
PM7nj |
Jan-12-09 02:49 PM |
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Not in this case - Kerry, Conrad, Wyden were all strong Obama allies |
karynnj |
Jan-12-09 06:25 PM |
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Did you and the OP even read the article. This is a RW guy who writes in a RW magazine. |
Mass |
Jan-12-09 02:45 PM |
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Actually, I didn't. Just making a general comment. |
PM7nj |
Jan-12-09 02:48 PM |
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Not blindly following is OK if you know as much or more than the leader |
Gman |
Jan-12-09 02:50 PM |
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Oh so if we don't know as much as Barack we should blindly follow. |
navarth |
Jan-12-09 02:59 PM |
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ummmm WUT |
FarceOfNature |
Jan-12-09 06:46 PM |
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K & R |
HedHunter |
Jan-12-09 02:47 PM |
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Pretty dense analysis in that piece. Obama set that debate exactly where he wanted it so Dems could |
blm |
Jan-12-09 02:47 PM |
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Agreed, Obama and senate dems are one step ahead |
Uzybone |
Jan-12-09 04:12 PM |
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We hold our leaders to a much higher standard than they do |
marlakay |
Jan-12-09 02:49 PM |
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I think it's essentially a question of cowardice and CYA |
frazzled |
Jan-12-09 02:50 PM |
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Horsepoo - Obama set the debate where he wanted it started so Dems could move it leftward. And they |
blm |
Jan-12-09 02:55 PM |
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Awwww .... |
frazzled |
Jan-12-09 03:21 PM |
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Right - Obama's M is to immediately give RW reason to label Dem senate as rubberstampers. |
blm |
Jan-12-09 03:41 PM |
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I have nothing against the constructive criticism |
frazzled |
Jan-12-09 05:10 PM |
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You have pathetically misread what went down. PS: Kerry is wellknown for listening to all sides |
blm |
Jan-12-09 06:44 PM |
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"Patahetic," "idiots" ... the persuasive charm just oozes |
frazzled |
Jan-12-09 06:56 PM |
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Tsk, tsk, tsk. There is no acrimony here at DU towards Obama, only "constructive criticism". |
elocs |
Jan-12-09 02:51 PM |
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Kerry and Harkin are not winbags - and nothing either said is out of order |
karynnj |
Jan-12-09 02:55 PM |
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The whole thing was orchestrated... |
TTUBatfan2008 |
Jan-12-09 02:59 PM |
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Exactly - it stopped the certain labeling of Senate as Obama's rubberstamp, too. |
blm |
Jan-12-09 03:09 PM |
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I'm very interested to see... |
TTUBatfan2008 |
Jan-12-09 03:16 PM |
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Hard to believe the level of idiocy from those still howling - you think they'd have gotten it once |
blm |
Jan-12-09 03:43 PM |
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That's what it sounds like |
politicasista |
Jan-12-09 04:32 PM |
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There's been a lot of... |
TTUBatfan2008 |
Jan-12-09 04:42 PM |
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Exactly |
politicasista |
Jan-12-09 04:45 PM |
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Our work simply started with an Obama presidency. |
ReadTomPaine |
Jan-12-09 03:15 PM |
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Good post |
flying rabbit |
Jan-12-09 04:42 PM |
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There is a damn good reason while Congress' approval ratings are a fraction |
nomad1776 |
Jan-12-09 03:25 PM |
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i agree with you. |
dionysus |
Jan-12-09 03:40 PM |
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Support and rolling over are pretty different |
TheKentuckian |
Jan-12-09 04:46 PM |
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Leading democratic senators supported Roosevelt |
Abq_Sarah |
Jan-12-09 05:54 PM |
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All I have to say is: |
bvar22 |
Jan-12-09 06:09 PM |
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we all are |
Two Americas |
Jan-12-09 06:31 PM |
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So...the Democrats should just be Yes People? I thought that's what Obama DIDN'T want? |
IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge |
Jan-13-09 07:53 AM |
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So since Obama won the presidency and Kerry didn't, Kerry shouldn't have an opinion? |
LittleClarkie |
Jan-13-09 08:07 AM |
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Depends on what democrats you're talking about |
LynneSin |
Jan-13-09 08:23 AM |
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Kerry and Harkin both |
LWolf |
Jan-13-09 09:24 AM |
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