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Mon Jan-12-09 02:41 PM
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| 1. LOL but it's not 'acrimonious' to call John Kerry a windbag? |
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Who's attacking whom, here?
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| -Why Aren't Democrats Supporting Obama? |
Gman |
Jan-12-09 02:39 PM |
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LOL but it's not 'acrimonious' to call John Kerry a windbag? |
leftstreet |
Jan-12-09 02:41 PM |
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"windbag" hardly rises to the level of being called acrimony |
Gman |
Jan-12-09 02:44 PM |
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The Dems ARE supporting Obama. This guy is not. May be looking at whom he is |
Mass |
Jan-12-09 02:46 PM |
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Hint: Read DU |
Gman |
Jan-12-09 02:53 PM |
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I know what you are talking about. The problem is that the article you |
Mass |
Jan-12-09 02:54 PM |
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Senate Dems already got the package moved leftward - do you want it moved back |
blm |
Jan-12-09 03:02 PM |
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they are wrong if they are bloviating in the press. |
mopinko |
Jan-12-09 03:27 PM |
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BALONEY - they did it to set the perception Obama wanted - that he didn't expect rubberstamp senate |
blm |
Jan-12-09 03:36 PM |
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Doesn't matter people here |
politicasista |
Jan-12-09 04:36 PM |
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They weren't "bloviating" |
karynnj |
Jan-12-09 06:41 PM |
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Good post |
politicasista |
Jan-12-09 06:53 PM |
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Try reading the piece and COMPREHENDING what asshat writer is really about G. |
blm |
Jan-12-09 02:51 PM |
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Actually - Heinbrunn was speaking of the comments made on the stimulus package |
karynnj |
Jan-12-09 06:34 PM |
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John Kerry does not have the weight of the country on his shoulders. |
pnwmom |
Jan-12-09 03:00 PM |
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Obama's team altered the package correctly, and Obama is seen as a president who LISTENS and doesn't |
blm |
Jan-12-09 03:06 PM |
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Were you talking to me? What did I say? n/t |
pnwmom |
Jan-12-09 03:10 PM |
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Kerry is an ally of Obama's |
karynnj |
Jan-12-09 06:22 PM |
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I didn't accuse Kerry of saying that. |
pnwmom |
Jan-12-09 06:38 PM |
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Why do you think it hurts Obama to be seen as a president who will take correction from left when |
blm |
Jan-13-09 08:35 AM |
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RW hack from National INterest. Thanks for playing. |
Mass |
Jan-12-09 02:44 PM |
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Democrats cannot follow a leader and are awesome at shooting themselves in the foot. |
PM7nj |
Jan-12-09 02:44 PM |
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Constructive criticism is good... |
TTUBatfan2008 |
Jan-12-09 02:45 PM |
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I agree. nt |
PM7nj |
Jan-12-09 02:49 PM |
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Not in this case - Kerry, Conrad, Wyden were all strong Obama allies |
karynnj |
Jan-12-09 06:25 PM |
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Did you and the OP even read the article. This is a RW guy who writes in a RW magazine. |
Mass |
Jan-12-09 02:45 PM |
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Actually, I didn't. Just making a general comment. |
PM7nj |
Jan-12-09 02:48 PM |
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Not blindly following is OK if you know as much or more than the leader |
Gman |
Jan-12-09 02:50 PM |
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Oh so if we don't know as much as Barack we should blindly follow. |
navarth |
Jan-12-09 02:59 PM |
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ummmm WUT |
FarceOfNature |
Jan-12-09 06:46 PM |
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K & R |
HedHunter |
Jan-12-09 02:47 PM |
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Pretty dense analysis in that piece. Obama set that debate exactly where he wanted it so Dems could |
blm |
Jan-12-09 02:47 PM |
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Agreed, Obama and senate dems are one step ahead |
Uzybone |
Jan-12-09 04:12 PM |
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We hold our leaders to a much higher standard than they do |
marlakay |
Jan-12-09 02:49 PM |
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I think it's essentially a question of cowardice and CYA |
frazzled |
Jan-12-09 02:50 PM |
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Horsepoo - Obama set the debate where he wanted it started so Dems could move it leftward. And they |
blm |
Jan-12-09 02:55 PM |
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Awwww .... |
frazzled |
Jan-12-09 03:21 PM |
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Right - Obama's M is to immediately give RW reason to label Dem senate as rubberstampers. |
blm |
Jan-12-09 03:41 PM |
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I have nothing against the constructive criticism |
frazzled |
Jan-12-09 05:10 PM |
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You have pathetically misread what went down. PS: Kerry is wellknown for listening to all sides |
blm |
Jan-12-09 06:44 PM |
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"Patahetic," "idiots" ... the persuasive charm just oozes |
frazzled |
Jan-12-09 06:56 PM |
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Tsk, tsk, tsk. There is no acrimony here at DU towards Obama, only "constructive criticism". |
elocs |
Jan-12-09 02:51 PM |
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Kerry and Harkin are not winbags - and nothing either said is out of order |
karynnj |
Jan-12-09 02:55 PM |
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The whole thing was orchestrated... |
TTUBatfan2008 |
Jan-12-09 02:59 PM |
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Exactly - it stopped the certain labeling of Senate as Obama's rubberstamp, too. |
blm |
Jan-12-09 03:09 PM |
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I'm very interested to see... |
TTUBatfan2008 |
Jan-12-09 03:16 PM |
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Hard to believe the level of idiocy from those still howling - you think they'd have gotten it once |
blm |
Jan-12-09 03:43 PM |
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That's what it sounds like |
politicasista |
Jan-12-09 04:32 PM |
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There's been a lot of... |
TTUBatfan2008 |
Jan-12-09 04:42 PM |
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Exactly |
politicasista |
Jan-12-09 04:45 PM |
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Our work simply started with an Obama presidency. |
ReadTomPaine |
Jan-12-09 03:15 PM |
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Good post |
flying rabbit |
Jan-12-09 04:42 PM |
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There is a damn good reason while Congress' approval ratings are a fraction |
nomad1776 |
Jan-12-09 03:25 PM |
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i agree with you. |
dionysus |
Jan-12-09 03:40 PM |
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Support and rolling over are pretty different |
TheKentuckian |
Jan-12-09 04:46 PM |
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Leading democratic senators supported Roosevelt |
Abq_Sarah |
Jan-12-09 05:54 PM |
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All I have to say is: |
bvar22 |
Jan-12-09 06:09 PM |
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we all are |
Two Americas |
Jan-12-09 06:31 PM |
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So...the Democrats should just be Yes People? I thought that's what Obama DIDN'T want? |
IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge |
Jan-13-09 07:53 AM |
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So since Obama won the presidency and Kerry didn't, Kerry shouldn't have an opinion? |
LittleClarkie |
Jan-13-09 08:07 AM |
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Depends on what democrats you're talking about |
LynneSin |
Jan-13-09 08:23 AM |
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Kerry and Harkin both |
LWolf |
Jan-13-09 09:24 AM |
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