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Sun Jan-11-09 07:11 PM
Response to Reply #98 |
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I believe that it is imperative that straights stand up for gays, and call the bigotry against gays by its name.
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| -Does Obama have close gay friends or family members? |
ruggerson |
Jan-10-09 11:03 AM |
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I don't know how we'd know. nt |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-10-09 11:04 AM |
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the media reports |
ruggerson |
Jan-10-09 11:08 AM |
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I don't think we've yet properly vetted everyone they talk with. nt |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-10-09 11:12 AM |
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I realize |
ruggerson |
Jan-10-09 11:16 AM |
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Good question. I'd be interested to hear the answer. |
Elrond Hubbard |
Jan-10-09 11:05 AM |
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I highly doubt it |
Skittles |
Jan-10-09 11:05 AM |
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Maybe, but when you say you have a (insert group here) you are |
treestar |
Jan-10-09 11:08 AM |
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agreed - look at Cheney |
ruggerson |
Jan-10-09 11:12 AM |
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Well, yes and no..... |
Sebastian Doyle |
Jan-11-09 03:27 AM |
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Agree. Or if you say you like, for example, Latinos, that is racist/colonialist, because |
closeupready |
Jan-10-09 11:14 AM |
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"So I just censor what I post here because too many people here are prepared to find prejudice--" |
HypnoToad |
Jan-10-09 11:22 AM |
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You're confusing prejudice with privilege. |
Chovexani |
Jan-10-09 02:14 PM |
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I am friends with gays, blacks, women, Asians... Indeed, some of my best friends are French. |
HypnoToad |
Jan-10-09 11:15 AM |
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I find that hard to believe |
Dinkeldog |
Jan-10-09 03:04 PM |
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The reason why people get flamed for that |
Chovexani |
Jan-10-09 02:09 PM |
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Ann Coulter must do. (Devil's advocate, with link and photographic proof) |
HypnoToad |
Jan-10-09 11:09 AM |
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No, he shunned them when they came out to him. |
closeupready |
Jan-10-09 11:10 AM |
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Do you have any evidence of that whatsoever? |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-10-09 11:11 AM |
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The sarcasm tag is applicable to the entire post. |
closeupready |
Jan-10-09 11:15 AM |
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and helpful too |
ruggerson |
Jan-10-09 11:17 AM |
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No, it wasn't. |
closeupready |
Jan-10-09 11:23 AM |
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Gotcha. |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-10-09 11:17 AM |
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Why does it matter? |
merh |
Jan-10-09 11:20 AM |
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Folks would still mock him? Mock him? Who mocks him? |
PelosiFan |
Jan-10-09 08:40 PM |
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There has been mocking and you know it. |
merh |
Jan-10-09 08:59 PM |
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That's not mocking. That's called sarcasm. And justified sarcasm. |
PelosiFan |
Jan-10-09 09:07 PM |
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How lame. |
merh |
Jan-10-09 09:13 PM |
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Lame? Lame is telling GLBT DUers that they need to stop making valid complaints |
PelosiFan |
Jan-10-09 09:18 PM |
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Again, how lame of you. I've never told folks to stop complaining. |
merh |
Jan-10-09 09:26 PM |
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It's your condescending "organize" thread that I'm referring to. |
PelosiFan |
Jan-10-09 09:30 PM |
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So now you decide that attacking me is justified. How not surprising. |
merh |
Jan-10-09 09:50 PM |
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uh |
ruggerson |
Jan-10-09 09:54 PM |
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I don't know what is being done beyond DU (other than the sites I provided) |
merh |
Jan-10-09 10:01 PM |
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well, you could start |
ruggerson |
Jan-10-09 10:10 PM |
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thank you so much |
merh |
Jan-10-09 10:24 PM |
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There's a problem with your post |
Dinkeldog |
Jan-10-09 10:04 PM |
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Who doesn't? n/t |
sandnsea |
Jan-10-09 11:25 AM |
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I can't imagine he doesn't... everyone does. |
BklynChick |
Jan-10-09 11:26 AM |
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that's why I asked |
ruggerson |
Jan-10-09 11:29 AM |
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I don't think this is something that would be written about. I can't imagine the Obamas, in the |
BklynChick |
Jan-10-09 11:31 AM |
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We knew that B. Clinton had gay friends. |
PaulHo |
Jan-10-09 11:53 AM |
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It's the friendship that dare not speak it's name! ..nt |
JohnnieGordon |
Jan-10-09 12:39 PM |
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duh. There are three gays in my family.....that I KNOW of. nt |
Kahuna |
Jan-10-09 12:03 PM |
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In my family , I have quite a few 'out'.... |
sheeptramp |
Jan-10-09 09:31 PM |
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Steve Hildebrand |
Christian30 |
Jan-10-09 11:34 AM |
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That would be Number 1 ... after 28 posts. |
PaulHo |
Jan-10-09 12:00 PM |
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Yes, I meant socially |
ruggerson |
Jan-10-09 12:41 PM |
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Almost Certainly Not |
AndyTiedye |
Jan-10-09 11:37 AM |
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I would doubt it. He's spent his entire career trying to trample on |
firedupdem |
Jan-10-09 11:53 AM |
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no, but he IS pandering to those who support homophobia. |
closeupready |
Jan-10-09 12:05 PM |
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I'm more concerned with his voting record and the fact that he |
firedupdem |
Jan-10-09 12:37 PM |
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Exactly. Obama refuses to get caught up in the culture war bullshit |
Hell_If_I_Know |
Jan-10-09 05:13 PM |
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I'm not sure. |
jaredh |
Jan-10-09 12:06 PM |
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Donnie McClurkin used to be gay. |
rug |
Jan-10-09 12:09 PM |
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I'm not totally convinced that he's not now. |
racaulk |
Jan-10-09 01:43 PM |
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Sure he's straight... |
demdog78 |
Jan-10-09 09:21 PM |
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HEEEE-ALED! |
Jamastiene |
Jan-10-09 09:35 PM |
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One does not need a friend that is gay to understand how they feel |
Jennicut |
Jan-10-09 12:16 PM |
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What percentage of Americans have close gay freinds? |
Uzybone |
Jan-10-09 12:17 PM |
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Oh sexual "preference" how progressive.. |
JohnnieGordon |
Jan-10-09 12:47 PM |
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Sorry, didnt mean to use preference in an offensive way |
Uzybone |
Jan-10-09 02:02 PM |
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It implies homosexuality is a choice |
JohnnieGordon |
Jan-10-09 02:12 PM |
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Oh get OFF your high horse. |
nothingtoofear |
Jan-10-09 10:11 PM |
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The reason for that is because |
Jamastiene |
Jan-10-09 09:34 PM |
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In the world that most people live in |
ruggerson |
Jan-10-09 12:49 PM |
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Thats my point though |
Uzybone |
Jan-10-09 02:03 PM |
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Even a person's casual friends should feel comfortable being out to them |
JohnnieGordon |
Jan-10-09 02:18 PM |
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. |
Bluebear |
Jan-10-09 05:15 PM |
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There was a terrible, sordid, completely unfounded and untrue rumor that HE was gay and it makes me |
LaydeeBug |
Jan-10-09 12:43 PM |
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"Terrible"? "Sordid"? Sounds like a 50's horror movie. |
PaulHo |
Jan-10-09 07:58 PM |
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"terrible" "sordid" |
Jamastiene |
Jan-10-09 09:38 PM |
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And this is important how? |
peacetrain |
Jan-10-09 12:46 PM |
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Sure made a difference for Anita Bryant - she stopped her nasty campaign... |
polichick |
Jan-10-09 02:05 PM |
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It had a LOT more to do with her loss of income, and she's back to her old tricks. |
NYCGirl |
Jan-10-09 03:01 PM |
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OMG - what in the world will it take for her to get it?! Thanks for the post. |
polichick |
Jan-10-09 03:08 PM |
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Unfortunately, every time he starts to become friends with any gay folks, |
QC |
Jan-10-09 02:09 PM |
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LOL |
polichick |
Jan-10-09 02:12 PM |
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Ha! |
sheeptramp |
Jan-10-09 09:36 PM |
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I can just see him descending from the sky in a cloud |
Jamastiene |
Jan-10-09 09:39 PM |
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Like the Sistine Chapel ceiling, but with Donnie in a flowing caftan |
QC |
Jan-10-09 10:13 PM |
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Holy Damned If You Do, Damned If You Don't, Batman! |
BlooInBloo |
Jan-10-09 02:21 PM |
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I'd say no |
Bluenorthwest |
Jan-10-09 02:24 PM |
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Yep, that "proselytizing" remark pissed me off too |
JohnnieGordon |
Jan-10-09 02:32 PM |
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Was he unable to remember the prof's name or was he uncertain |
merh |
Jan-10-09 02:43 PM |
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*standing ovation* Thank you, Merh n/t |
Hell_If_I_Know |
Jan-10-09 05:15 PM |
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i'm sure he does |
sundog |
Jan-10-09 02:47 PM |
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I actually would love to know that answer as well |
dsc |
Jan-10-09 04:52 PM |
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What's with the labels? |
sniffa |
Jan-10-09 05:15 PM |
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Jimmy Choo. |
foxfeet |
Jan-10-09 07:37 PM |
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only because Manolo |
ruggerson |
Jan-10-09 07:38 PM |
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So, I guess the simple answer to your direct question is "no". |
PaulHo |
Jan-10-09 08:01 PM |
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Like we know all his friends? Is this a serious post? |
AZBlue |
Jan-10-09 09:07 PM |
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You are right about people changing when the have a chance to deal with a real person. |
grantcart |
Jan-10-09 09:07 PM |
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Exactly. |
nothingtoofear |
Jan-10-09 10:14 PM |
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Ellen has done more to move middle America than anybody else |
grantcart |
Jan-11-09 03:19 AM |
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I suspect he does not. When one has longtime gay friends, one's actions and thoughts reflect it. |
TexasObserver |
Jan-11-09 10:14 AM |
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Very well stated. |
racaulk |
Jan-11-09 01:28 PM |
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Thank you, too! |
TexasObserver |
Jan-11-09 07:11 PM |
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Yours is perhaps the best response so far |
ruggerson |
Jan-11-09 01:49 PM |
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Thanks. I try to be supportive, and that means speaking out. |
TexasObserver |
Jan-11-09 07:09 PM |
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I think it would be safe to say so far that he may be a bit tone deaf gay wise. |
Neshanic |
Jan-11-09 10:23 AM |
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Really? How do you explain Dick Cheney then? |
kwenu |
Jan-11-09 01:58 PM |
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