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Response to Reply #73
92. Exactly.
It is terribly difficult for someone to discriminate against a group if they know a member of it.
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  -Does Obama have close gay friends or family members? ruggerson  Jan-10-09 11:03 AM   #0 
  - I don't know how we'd know. nt  Occam Bandage   Jan-10-09 11:04 AM   #1 
  - the media reports  ruggerson   Jan-10-09 11:08 AM   #4 
     - I don't think we've yet properly vetted everyone they talk with. nt  Occam Bandage   Jan-10-09 11:12 AM   #10 
        - I realize  ruggerson   Jan-10-09 11:16 AM   #14 
  - Good question. I'd be interested to hear the answer.  Elrond Hubbard   Jan-10-09 11:05 AM   #2 
  - I highly doubt it  Skittles   Jan-10-09 11:05 AM   #3 
  - Maybe, but when you say you have a (insert group here) you are  treestar   Jan-10-09 11:08 AM   #5 
  - agreed - look at Cheney  ruggerson   Jan-10-09 11:12 AM   #9 
  - Well, yes and no.....  Sebastian Doyle   Jan-11-09 03:27 AM   #95 
  - Agree. Or if you say you like, for example, Latinos, that is racist/colonialist, because  closeupready   Jan-10-09 11:14 AM   #11 
  - "So I just censor what I post here because too many people here are prepared to find prejudice--"  HypnoToad   Jan-10-09 11:22 AM   #18 
  - You're confusing prejudice with privilege.  Chovexani   Jan-10-09 02:14 PM   #50 
  - I am friends with gays, blacks, women, Asians... Indeed, some of my best friends are French.  HypnoToad   Jan-10-09 11:15 AM   #12 
  - I find that hard to believe  Dinkeldog   Jan-10-09 03:04 PM   #58 
  - The reason why people get flamed for that  Chovexani   Jan-10-09 02:09 PM   #47 
  - Ann Coulter must do. (Devil's advocate, with link and photographic proof)  HypnoToad   Jan-10-09 11:09 AM   #6 
  - No, he shunned them when they came out to him.  closeupready   Jan-10-09 11:10 AM   #7 
  - Do you have any evidence of that whatsoever?  Occam Bandage   Jan-10-09 11:11 AM   #8 
     - The sarcasm tag is applicable to the entire post.  closeupready   Jan-10-09 11:15 AM   #13 
        - and helpful too  ruggerson   Jan-10-09 11:17 AM   #15 
        - No, it wasn't.  closeupready   Jan-10-09 11:23 AM   #19 
        - Gotcha.  Occam Bandage   Jan-10-09 11:17 AM   #16 
  - Why does it matter?  merh   Jan-10-09 11:20 AM   #17 
  - Folks would still mock him? Mock him? Who mocks him?  PelosiFan   Jan-10-09 08:40 PM   #69 
  - There has been mocking and you know it.  merh   Jan-10-09 08:59 PM   #70 
     - That's not mocking. That's called sarcasm. And justified sarcasm.  PelosiFan   Jan-10-09 09:07 PM   #71 
        - How lame.  merh   Jan-10-09 09:13 PM   #74 
           - Lame? Lame is telling GLBT DUers that they need to stop making valid complaints  PelosiFan   Jan-10-09 09:18 PM   #75 
              - Again, how lame of you. I've never told folks to stop complaining.  merh   Jan-10-09 09:26 PM   #77 
                 - It's your condescending "organize" thread that I'm referring to.  PelosiFan   Jan-10-09 09:30 PM   #78 
                 - So now you decide that attacking me is justified. How not surprising.  merh   Jan-10-09 09:50 PM   #85 
                 - uh  ruggerson   Jan-10-09 09:54 PM   #86 
                    - I don't know what is being done beyond DU (other than the sites I provided)  merh   Jan-10-09 10:01 PM   #87 
                       - well, you could start  ruggerson   Jan-10-09 10:10 PM   #89 
                          - thank you so much  merh   Jan-10-09 10:24 PM   #93 
  - There's a problem with your post  Dinkeldog   Jan-10-09 10:04 PM   #88 
  - Who doesn't? n/t  sandnsea   Jan-10-09 11:25 AM   #20 
  - I can't imagine he doesn't... everyone does.  BklynChick   Jan-10-09 11:26 AM   #21 
  - that's why I asked  ruggerson   Jan-10-09 11:29 AM   #22 
  - I don't think this is something that would be written about. I can't imagine the Obamas, in the  BklynChick   Jan-10-09 11:31 AM   #23 
     - We knew that B. Clinton had gay friends.  PaulHo   Jan-10-09 11:53 AM   #26 
        - It's the friendship that dare not speak it's name! ..nt  JohnnieGordon   Jan-10-09 12:39 PM   #36 
  - duh. There are three gays in my family.....that I KNOW of. nt  Kahuna   Jan-10-09 12:03 PM   #29 
     - In my family , I have quite a few 'out'....  sheeptramp   Jan-10-09 09:31 PM   #79 
  - Steve Hildebrand  Christian30   Jan-10-09 11:34 AM   #24 
  - That would be Number 1 ... after 28 posts.  PaulHo   Jan-10-09 12:00 PM   #28 
     - Yes, I meant socially  ruggerson   Jan-10-09 12:41 PM   #37 
  - Almost Certainly Not  AndyTiedye   Jan-10-09 11:37 AM   #25 
  - I would doubt it. He's spent his entire career trying to trample on  firedupdem   Jan-10-09 11:53 AM   #27 
  - no, but he IS pandering to those who support homophobia.  closeupready   Jan-10-09 12:05 PM   #30 
     - I'm more concerned with his voting record and the fact that he  firedupdem   Jan-10-09 12:37 PM   #35 
        - Exactly. Obama refuses to get caught up in the culture war bullshit  Hell_If_I_Know   Jan-10-09 05:13 PM   #61 
  - I'm not sure.  jaredh   Jan-10-09 12:06 PM   #31 
  - Donnie McClurkin used to be gay.  rug   Jan-10-09 12:09 PM   #32 
  - I'm not totally convinced that he's not now.  racaulk   Jan-10-09 01:43 PM   #42 
     - Sure he's straight...  demdog78   Jan-10-09 09:21 PM   #76 
        - HEEEE-ALED!  Jamastiene   Jan-10-09 09:35 PM   #81 
  - One does not need a friend that is gay to understand how they feel  Jennicut   Jan-10-09 12:16 PM   #33 
  - What percentage of Americans have close gay freinds?  Uzybone   Jan-10-09 12:17 PM   #34 
  - Oh sexual "preference" how progressive..  JohnnieGordon   Jan-10-09 12:47 PM   #40 
  - Sorry, didnt mean to use preference in an offensive way  Uzybone   Jan-10-09 02:02 PM   #43 
     - It implies homosexuality is a choice  JohnnieGordon   Jan-10-09 02:12 PM   #48 
     - Oh get OFF your high horse.  nothingtoofear   Jan-10-09 10:11 PM   #90 
     - The reason for that is because  Jamastiene   Jan-10-09 09:34 PM   #80 
  - In the world that most people live in  ruggerson   Jan-10-09 12:49 PM   #41 
  - Thats my point though  Uzybone   Jan-10-09 02:03 PM   #44 
     - Even a person's casual friends should feel comfortable being out to them  JohnnieGordon   Jan-10-09 02:18 PM   #51 
  - .  Bluebear   Jan-10-09 05:15 PM   #63 
  - There was a terrible, sordid, completely unfounded and untrue rumor that HE was gay and it makes me  LaydeeBug   Jan-10-09 12:43 PM   #38 
  - "Terrible"? "Sordid"? Sounds like a 50's horror movie.  PaulHo   Jan-10-09 07:58 PM   #67 
  - "terrible" "sordid"  Jamastiene   Jan-10-09 09:38 PM   #83 
  - And this is important how?  peacetrain   Jan-10-09 12:46 PM   #39 
  - Sure made a difference for Anita Bryant - she stopped her nasty campaign...  polichick   Jan-10-09 02:05 PM   #45 
  - It had a LOT more to do with her loss of income, and she's back to her old tricks.  NYCGirl   Jan-10-09 03:01 PM   #57 
     - OMG - what in the world will it take for her to get it?! Thanks for the post.  polichick   Jan-10-09 03:08 PM   #59 
  - Unfortunately, every time he starts to become friends with any gay folks,  QC   Jan-10-09 02:09 PM   #46 
  - LOL  polichick   Jan-10-09 02:12 PM   #49 
  - Ha!  sheeptramp   Jan-10-09 09:36 PM   #82 
  - I can just see him descending from the sky in a cloud  Jamastiene   Jan-10-09 09:39 PM   #84 
     - Like the Sistine Chapel ceiling, but with Donnie in a flowing caftan  QC   Jan-10-09 10:13 PM   #91 
  - Holy Damned If You Do, Damned If You Don't, Batman!  BlooInBloo   Jan-10-09 02:21 PM   #52 
  - I'd say no  Bluenorthwest   Jan-10-09 02:24 PM   #53 
  - Yep, that "proselytizing" remark pissed me off too  JohnnieGordon   Jan-10-09 02:32 PM   #54 
  - Was he unable to remember the prof's name or was he uncertain  merh   Jan-10-09 02:43 PM   #55 
     - *standing ovation* Thank you, Merh n/t  Hell_If_I_Know   Jan-10-09 05:15 PM   #64 
  - i'm sure he does  sundog   Jan-10-09 02:47 PM   #56 
  - I actually would love to know that answer as well  dsc   Jan-10-09 04:52 PM   #60 
  - What's with the labels?  sniffa   Jan-10-09 05:15 PM   #62 
  - Jimmy Choo.  foxfeet   Jan-10-09 07:37 PM   #65 
     - only because Manolo  ruggerson   Jan-10-09 07:38 PM   #66 
  - So, I guess the simple answer to your direct question is "no".  PaulHo   Jan-10-09 08:01 PM   #68 
  - Like we know all his friends? Is this a serious post?  AZBlue   Jan-10-09 09:07 PM   #72 
  - You are right about people changing when the have a chance to deal with a real person.  grantcart   Jan-10-09 09:07 PM   #73 
  - Exactly.  nothingtoofear   Jan-10-09 10:14 PM   #92 
     - Ellen has done more to move middle America than anybody else  grantcart   Jan-11-09 03:19 AM   #94 
  - I suspect he does not. When one has longtime gay friends, one's actions and thoughts reflect it.  TexasObserver   Jan-11-09 10:14 AM   #96 
  - Very well stated.  racaulk   Jan-11-09 01:28 PM   #98 
  - Thank you, too!  TexasObserver   Jan-11-09 07:11 PM   #102 
  - Yours is perhaps the best response so far  ruggerson   Jan-11-09 01:49 PM   #99 
     - Thanks. I try to be supportive, and that means speaking out.  TexasObserver   Jan-11-09 07:09 PM   #101 
  - I think it would be safe to say so far that he may be a bit tone deaf gay wise.  Neshanic   Jan-11-09 10:23 AM   #97 
  - Really? How do you explain Dick Cheney then?  kwenu   Jan-11-09 01:58 PM   #100 
 

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