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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 01:27 PM
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118. Koop had the good grace to go with the evidence on legal abortion not harming women...
... while he was still in office. In doing so he publicly went against his president's desire to pander to the RW.

Sorry he was personally a jerk. I could tell you similar stories about men I've worked for--truly lacking in social skills to their subordinates, but they did the job they were hired to do quite well. I'm not excusing rudeness, but at least knowing that made me understand why they still had those jobs.

In Koop's case he risked his own position to speak truth on a hot-button issue, and as a pro-choice woman I remember him for that.


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  -Gotta Love that SANJAY GUPTA for GS pick! Gotta Love OBAMA! FrenchieCat  Jan-06-09 11:10 PM   #0 
  - The same Gupta that looked like an ass attacking Michael Moore over Sicko?  MessiahRp   Jan-06-09 11:14 PM   #1 
  - You're supposed to forget about that.  olkaz   Jan-07-09 08:45 AM   #82 
  - That was the one time he really lost me  HughMoran   Jan-07-09 09:25 AM   #89 
  - I lost all respect for the guy after that...what a dick  Roxy66   Jan-07-09 09:35 AM   #94 
  - Michael Moore isn't God  LittleClarkie   Jan-07-09 11:02 AM   #101 
  - Michael Moore is God  HughMoran   Jan-07-09 12:19 PM   #109 
  - Sorry. He's been demoted to Moses.  LittleClarkie   Jan-07-09 12:23 PM   #110 
  - No but neither is big Pharma and HMOs... however Gupta chooses to worship them  MessiahRp   Jan-07-09 12:37 PM   #111 
  - The issue isn't that Gupta called out Michael Moore  uberllama42   Jan-07-09 01:38 PM   #123 
  - Yeah, the same fucker but unless  zidzi   Jan-07-09 12:55 PM   #116 
  - Moore told people to vote Nader over Gore.  Starbucks Anarchist   Jan-07-09 01:29 PM   #119 
  - The Gupta nom if it comes would be one of the smartest that he'd have made imo  TheDonkey   Jan-06-09 11:14 PM   #2 
  - he's really cute too!  Cash_thatswhatiwant   Jan-06-09 11:15 PM   #3 
  - He's no Fareed Zakaria! :-) NT  Clio the Leo   Jan-06-09 11:16 PM   #5 
     - True dat!  FrenchieCat   Jan-06-09 11:39 PM   #11 
     - Fareed has my heart.  Jennicut   Jan-06-09 11:41 PM   #14 
        - Aye.... Quite the impressive chap!  FrenchieCat   Jan-06-09 11:52 PM   #21 
        - And that intervnew he did with Barack.....  Clio the Leo   Jan-07-09 08:52 AM   #85 
        - Great book..  WCGreen   Jan-06-09 11:55 PM   #23 
           - Yup. He is very intelligent. I felt bad after the Mumbai attacks happened  Jennicut   Jan-06-09 11:57 PM   #25 
              - I remember that...  WCGreen   Jan-06-09 11:58 PM   #28 
  - THANK YOU Barack.....  Clio the Leo   Jan-06-09 11:16 PM   #4 
  - He'll be visible, Nobody can name any SG since Jocelyn Elders.  NYC_SKP   Jan-06-09 11:17 PM   #6 
  - that's not true, there was C. Everett Koop  merh   Jan-06-09 11:44 PM   #17 
     - all the folks who weren't paying attention till after 1989?  FrenchieCat   Jan-06-09 11:55 PM   #24 
     - I couldn't tell you who is the SG now.  merh   Jan-07-09 12:05 AM   #31 
        - Yes. I think the Surgeon General really has a Rank......  FrenchieCat   Jan-07-09 12:10 AM   #34 
        - I just looked it up, it appears to be the uniform  merh   Jan-07-09 12:33 AM   #40 
        - Afaik, Koop was the first SG in years to actually wear the military uniform that goes w the office  Hekate   Jan-07-09 01:33 PM   #121 
     - Koop came before Elders.  NYC_SKP   Jan-06-09 11:58 PM   #27 
     - I recall  merh   Jan-07-09 12:02 AM   #29 
        - I'm lame....  NYC_SKP   Jan-07-09 12:04 AM   #30 
           - No sweat  merh   Jan-07-09 12:08 AM   #33 
     - C. Everett Koop is a jack ass  spiritual_gunfighter   Jan-07-09 09:33 AM   #92 
     - Koop had the good grace to go with the evidence on legal abortion not harming women...  Hekate   Jan-07-09 01:27 PM   #118 
     - I can't quite see cute little Sanjay  Terran   Jan-07-09 04:39 PM   #137 
  - This could be one of his better appointments  nevergiveup   Jan-06-09 11:26 PM   #7 
  - I'm glad that you've figured all of this out.  redstate_democrat   Jan-06-09 11:27 PM   #8 
  - I like him. He'll do fine in that position. He's well respected. n/t  firedupdem   Jan-06-09 11:29 PM   #9 
  - He's pissing off all the right people.  Hanse   Jan-06-09 11:36 PM   #10 
  - FrenchieCat once again apologizing for Obama  cboy4   Jan-06-09 11:39 PM   #12 
  - That's me. Better a lover than a hater....expecially when not required.  FrenchieCat   Jan-06-09 11:41 PM   #15 
  - And there's no need for an apology when Barack isn't sorry! n/t  firedupdem   Jan-06-09 11:44 PM   #16 
  - Thanks! That was taken a few months back on my 50th Birthday!  FrenchieCat   Jan-06-09 11:47 PM   #18 
     - There is NO way that you're 50 in that pic!  Greyskye   Jan-07-09 11:59 AM   #108 
        - Love your compliment,  FrenchieCat   Jan-07-09 12:45 PM   #113 
  - Much better to love than to hate  Uzybone   Jan-07-09 12:07 AM   #32 
  - My best friends are the ones who criticize me not those who compliment me no matter what  thewiseguy   Jan-07-09 12:29 AM   #38 
     - Good for you.  FrenchieCat   Jan-07-09 01:05 AM   #43 
        - We are not shitting on Obama. I still love him.  thewiseguy   Jan-07-09 01:18 AM   #45 
           - Cool!  FrenchieCat   Jan-07-09 01:19 AM   #46 
           - You have a lot of credibility in my opinion. When you criticize him  JenniferZ   Jan-07-09 09:22 AM   #87 
  - Zowie.  TahitiNut   Jan-07-09 12:31 AM   #39 
  - beautiful!  Fran Kubelik   Jan-07-09 08:47 AM   #83 
  - um...  NatBurner   Jan-07-09 09:47 AM   #95 
  - Preach it, girl! You are cracking me up!!  Number23   Jan-07-09 09:15 PM   #143 
  - EVERYTHING is FABULOUS!  Bluebear   Jan-07-09 01:43 AM   #49 
  - It could be a whole lot worse......  FrenchieCat   Jan-07-09 02:25 AM   #53 
  - I used to think primaries had consequences  Sebastian Doyle   Jan-07-09 02:34 AM   #55 
     - Was Obama supposed to get all of his people from outside of Government?  FrenchieCat   Jan-07-09 03:03 AM   #57 
        - What I expected was CHANGE from the polices of the last 28 years  Sebastian Doyle   Jan-07-09 03:11 AM   #58 
           - You expected change 14 days before inauguration......?  FrenchieCat   Jan-07-09 03:22 AM   #59 
           - I expect nominees that are SANE and capable of a different direction  Sebastian Doyle   Jan-07-09 03:33 AM   #60 
           - Yeah, OK. Continue to demand that Obama fulfill your wishes that he didn't run on.  FrenchieCat   Jan-07-09 03:50 AM   #62 
              - I don't think it's too much to ask  Sebastian Doyle   Jan-07-09 04:10 AM   #66 
                 - Yeah......demanding and damning 14 days before his inauguration  FrenchieCat   Jan-07-09 04:17 AM   #67 
           - " heal the divides that have held back our progress."  pnorman   Jan-07-09 04:42 AM   #68 
           - Which is strange  dmallind   Jan-07-09 08:33 AM   #78 
  - Feelin' a but snarky are we?  HughMoran   Jan-07-09 09:30 AM   #91 
     - Sorry to dissapoit. :)  Bluebear   Jan-07-09 10:53 AM   # 
        - I'm actually somewhere in the middle  HughMoran   Jan-07-09 11:11 AM   #103 
           - I can pick on your typos  Bluebear   Jan-07-09 11:13 AM   #104 
              - Yes, my name is undoubtably not "Hugh"  HughMoran   Jan-07-09 11:16 AM   #105 
                 - sorry for the delay, we had freezing rain/ice all day  Bluebear   Jan-07-09 06:37 PM   #138 
                    - It started raining/freezing rain just an hour ago and my outside thermometer says 24F  HughMoran   Jan-07-09 07:51 PM   #141 
  - Haven't you become quite the stick in the mud lately.  HughMoran   Jan-07-09 09:28 AM   #90 
  - the last one I liked was Jocelyn Elders  ruggerson   Jan-06-09 11:41 PM   #13 
  - It'll probably shut Blitzer up...  Puzzler   Jan-06-09 11:47 PM   #19 
  - Blitzer was stammering today.....  FrenchieCat   Jan-06-09 11:51 PM   #20 
     - "Cnn honored"  redstate_democrat   Jan-06-09 11:53 PM   #22 
        - You know that CNN has a biggo giant ego......  FrenchieCat   Jan-06-09 11:57 PM   #26 
  - Once again, Obama has taken an influential potential critic  pnwmom   Jan-07-09 12:15 AM   #35 
  - he just might be kinda smart!  firedupdem   Jan-07-09 12:18 AM   #36 
  - He's a corporate shill!  Enthusiast   Jan-07-09 05:52 AM   #72 
  - I don't know about turning him into an ally  blendermax   Jan-07-09 02:39 AM   #56 
     - But who better than Gupta to answer those media pundits?  pnwmom   Jan-07-09 04:03 AM   #65 
  - Well, there is certainly a silver lining there.  berni_mccoy   Jan-07-09 12:27 AM   #37 
  - Pitiful. . . .  defendandprotect   Jan-07-09 12:44 AM   #41 
  - Please do not pity my op.....  FrenchieCat   Jan-07-09 01:06 AM   #44 
     - I pity the appointment . . .  defendandprotect   Jan-07-09 02:15 PM   #126 
  - Marcus Welby is too old, I guess.  leftofthedial   Jan-07-09 12:49 AM   #42 
  - That seems to be the story of his cabinet: co-opt your rivals, both in politics and in the media.  Occam Bandage   Jan-07-09 01:28 AM   #47 
  - Think Lieberman will be thinking about that when he has a choice  FrenchieCat   Jan-07-09 02:27 AM   #54 
  - The only real benefit I see is that when Obama rolls out his healthcare plan....  BlooInBloo   Jan-07-09 01:33 AM   #48 
  - Well that is the silver lining in what is otherwise a rather large cloud.  Raineyb   Jan-07-09 02:03 PM   #124 
  - K&R, my dear FrenchieCat!  CaliforniaPeggy   Jan-07-09 01:50 AM   #50 
  - Except that Michael Moore was 100% right about everything in SiCKO  eridani   Jan-07-09 02:04 AM   #51 
  - Well, single payer was not proposed during the election......  FrenchieCat   Jan-07-09 02:21 AM   #52 
     - It's also the only solution to health care that requires no extra money  eridani   Jan-07-09 03:37 AM   #61 
        - Obama did not run on Single Payer health......  FrenchieCat   Jan-07-09 03:58 AM   #63 
           - If enough people harass him about it, he may see the light  eridani   Jan-07-09 05:14 AM   #71 
  - Great choice, Obama. I couldn't be more pleased.  lamp_shade   Jan-07-09 04:01 AM   #64 
  - This is the longest Facetious reply chain ever.  StClone   Jan-07-09 04:45 AM   #69 
  - I'm afraid he'll try to talk Obama out of Universal Healthcare  Hell_If_I_Know   Jan-07-09 04:57 AM   #70 
  - What other TV talking heads could he award cabinet positions too?  PuraVidaDreamin   Jan-07-09 06:08 AM   #73 
  - Surgeon General is NOT a cabinet position - it's more of a PR job  LynneSin   Jan-07-09 08:34 AM   #79 
     - Anyone who knows about the role of Dr Koop  Bluenorthwest   Jan-07-09 09:18 AM   #86 
        - Yup, AIDS and tobacco  LostinVA   Jan-07-09 10:28 AM   #97 
        - Thanks For Writing That  Crisco   Jan-07-09 11:25 AM   #107 
  - No I don't gotta love it.  Sentinel Chicken   Jan-07-09 06:41 AM   #74 
  - At least Medical Cannabis  LostinVA   Jan-07-09 10:28 AM   #98 
  - I'm starting to come around on Gupta  Politicub   Jan-07-09 08:18 AM   #75 
  - Yes it was a very Machiavellian move by Obama......I approve. nt  Phoonzang   Jan-07-09 08:20 AM   #76 
  - Surgeon General is a PR position but here's another smart move I think....  LynneSin   Jan-07-09 08:33 AM   #77 
  - Perhaps then Rush Limbaugh ought to be his press secretary.  endarkenment   Jan-07-09 08:37 AM   #80 
  - Frenchie, even you don't love this pick as much as you're letting on.  Kristi1696   Jan-07-09 08:40 AM   #81 
  - Obama recognizes the role of star power  JaneQPublic   Jan-07-09 08:49 AM   #84 
  - You've got a couple of good points, Frenchie. Gupta makes me nauseaous and has for quite some  K Gardner   Jan-07-09 09:22 AM   #88 
  - To think, they slammed Obama as a celebrity  Alcibiades   Jan-07-09 09:34 AM   #93 
  - Check and mate. I think Gupta's a great choice.  Phx_Dem   Jan-07-09 10:20 AM   #96 
  - 'Apparently, only open gay people can create diversity.' - What a shitty thing to say.  Bluebear   Jan-07-09 11:03 AM   #102 
     - It's called sarcasm, look it up.  Phx_Dem   Jan-07-09 03:05 PM   #128 
  - It is a great choice from a public relations standpoint. Agreed.  IsItJustMe   Jan-07-09 10:53 AM   #99 
  - I think Gupta will be a good mouthpiece and he'll probably be okay  Vinca   Jan-07-09 11:01 AM   #100 
  - That is such an asinine analysis  Echos Myron   Jan-07-09 11:23 AM   #106 
  - You have the right to your opinion, and I won't even call it  FrenchieCat   Jan-07-09 12:40 PM   #112 
  - Making Nancy Grace Attorney General would be a devastating 1-2 knockout!  flvegan   Jan-07-09 12:46 PM   #114 
  - Meh...I was actually thinking more along the lines of "Judge Judy" -  bullwinkle428   Jan-07-09 01:19 PM   #117 
  - Yeah, but she's syndicated. Frenchie wants the cable news folks behind Obama,  mycritters2   Jan-07-09 02:08 PM   #125 
  - Catherine Crier -- also a judge and liberal  LostinVA   Jan-07-09 03:06 PM   #129 
     - Appoint a liberal?  flvegan   Jan-07-09 03:20 PM   #131 
        - I know -- but, she is kinda cute!  LostinVA   Jan-07-09 03:39 PM   #133 
           - Yeah, we all know what YOUR cabinet would look like.  flvegan   Jan-07-09 03:41 PM   #134 
              - Angelina Jolie could be Head of Immigration  LostinVA   Jan-07-09 03:45 PM   #135 
                 - By the time you were done, Bill Clinton would be a saint in comparison.  flvegan   Jan-07-09 03:50 PM   #136 
                    - Maybe as White House Photographer?  LostinVA   Jan-07-09 08:39 PM   #142 
  - I so thought  zidzi   Jan-07-09 12:52 PM   #115 
  - I agree with all the criticism of Gupta - I also suspect that he will do well as SG  grantcart   Jan-07-09 01:31 PM   #120 
  - I think that the selection of Dr. Gupta will have it's advantages.  Veganistan   Jan-07-09 01:35 PM   #122 
  - I love how it's pissing off the woos.  Bornaginhooligan   Jan-07-09 02:18 PM   #127 
  - That is a bonus.  Veganistan   Jan-07-09 07:24 PM   #139 
  - Fuck this strategy bullshit - pick someone qualified- forget the chess game  lame54   Jan-07-09 03:08 PM   #130 
  - He is qualified. That ain't the problem.......  FrenchieCat   Jan-07-09 03:37 PM   #132 
  - Uh, did Obama pick him for his initials? SG for SG?  JFKfanforever   Jan-07-09 07:33 PM   #140 

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